DRAG WHEEL/Tire setups

phunk · 11-14-2013, 01:02 PM

Not everyone is very concerned with drag racing from a stop... its never been a very big deal to me. For 10 years I have been driving boosted Z's that cannot hook up until 3rd gear (even then 3rd gear is usually iffy). It never really was a big deal to me until recently its been getting on my nerves. I am personally more of a go fast for a long time person... so I have always been more concerned with nice brakes and high speed stability than I was concerned with the first 60' of a drag race. Most boosted Z's are setup similar... street cars that are setup closer to a road race car only with more power than they could realistically road race with.

The car is the problem. Its the design of the IRS. Guys with Vettes and Vipers and what not can run around with 600rwhp, on just decent sticky street tires, and still get OK traction. The Z is a whole different story. Z owners build up to that generally totally reasonable amount of power for the street like 550-600, and only find out when they get there that the Z suspension is NOT up to the task without dedicated slicks. Most Z owners just arent into that.

A 600rwhp car shouldnt need full slicks to not roast the tires at 60 or even 80mph. Not many guys are expecting that when they start building their Z. I wouldnt tell them to get slicks because of it... because that is not what they wanted to build.

Chuck33079 · 11-14-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

. Z owners build up to that generally totally reasonable amount of power for the street like 550-600,

It's funny how having a lot of power warps your definition of "generally totally reasonable".

phunk · 11-14-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It's funny how having a lot of power warps your definition of "generally totally reasonable".

Probably too much exposure to 1000-1800hp Vipers or something. 500-600 gets old real fast I am telling ya! Thats why its so frustrating that the Z cannot hook that power up on street tires.

Chuck33079 · 11-14-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

Thats why its so frustrating that the Z cannot hook that power up on street tires.

Yeah, I had a "code brown" moment merging into traffic this morning. Completely forgot how much of a difference it being 40 outside instead of 80.

andre12031948 · 11-14-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

Not everyone is very concerned with drag racing from a stop... its never been a very big deal to me. For 10 years I have been driving boosted Z's that cannot hook up until 3rd gear (even then 3rd gear is usually iffy). It never really was a big deal to me until recently its been getting on my nerves. I am personally more of a go fast for a long time person... so I have always been more concerned with nice brakes and high speed stability than I was concerned with the first 60' of a drag race. Most boosted Z's are setup similar... street cars that are setup closer to a road race car only with more power than they could realistically road race with.

The car is the problem. Its the design of the IRS. Guys with Vettes and Vipers and what not can run around with 600rwhp, on just decent sticky street tires, and still get OK traction. The Z is a whole different story. Z owners build up to that generally totally reasonable amount of power for the street like 550-600, and only find out when they get there that the Z suspension is NOT up to the task without dedicated slicks. Most Z owners just arent into that.

A 600rwhp car shouldnt need full slicks to not roast the tires at 60 or even 80mph. Not many guys are expecting that when they start building their Z. I wouldnt tell them to get slicks because of it... because that is not what they wanted to build.

We should do & not do whatever we want with our cars. If the subject of drag racing comes up, you & others should not jump out of your seats because you can't do it, or don't want to. Whatever....

I'm fine with that. 100% fine. Just don't say others can't do it, because with a little effort they can...... You can't then don't.... I've got nothing more.....

andre12031948 · 11-14-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

I feel like I am talking to a recording or something. Are you even reading my posts?

I'm at a Nissan dealer trying & there was some issue. Maybe I misunderstood. Anyway, I thought your post was very good. Didn't I say that?// Now I got to go!!!!!! sorry, glad to talk later.

phunk · 11-14-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

I'm at a Nissan dealer trying & there was some issue. Maybe I misunderstood. Anyway, I thought your post was very good. Didn't I say that?// Now I got to go!!!!!! sorry, glad to talk later.

No problem. I saw your post but I am not sure the answer. I was under the impression that the ABS rings were the same from 2003-now on all the Z's

synolimit · 11-14-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

Not everyone is very concerned with drag racing from a stop... its never been a very big deal to me. For 10 years I have been driving boosted Z's that cannot hook up until 3rd gear (even then 3rd gear is usually iffy). It never really was a big deal to me until recently its been getting on my nerves. I am personally more of a go fast for a long time person... so I have always been more concerned with nice brakes and high speed stability than I was concerned with the first 60' of a drag race. Most boosted Z's are setup similar... street cars that are setup closer to a road race car only with more power than they could realistically road race with.

The car is the problem. Its the design of the IRS. Guys with Vettes and Vipers and what not can run around with 600rwhp, on just decent sticky street tires, and still get OK traction. The Z is a whole different story. Z owners build up to that generally totally reasonable amount of power for the street like 550-600, and only find out when they get there that the Z suspension is NOT up to the task without dedicated slicks. Most Z owners just arent into that.

A 600rwhp car shouldnt need full slicks to not roast the tires at 60 or even 80mph. Not many guys are expecting that when they start building their Z. I wouldnt tell them to get slicks because of it... because that is not what they wanted to build.

Now I don't feel so bad. I've been dragging since 16 and have had many fast cars. My last WRX with a measly 335hp could run 11.7's. Hell bone stock I ran 13.3 at 101!

Now last summer I have a gutted rear 370z with a CBE and 285/35/18 HTR Z3's that couldn't break 14's at 106.5mph! Stock rear camber was -1.9 and -1.4. If the camber does change than no wonder I couldn't hook up! Its a hell of a highway drag car though

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phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974725	Not everyone is very concerned with drag racing from a stop... its never been a very big deal to me. For 10 years I have been driving boosted Z's that cannot hook up until 3rd gear (even then 3rd gear is usually iffy). It never really was a big deal to me until recently its been getting on my nerves. I am personally more of a go fast for a long time person... so I have always been more concerned with nice brakes and high speed stability than I was concerned with the first 60' of a drag race. Most boosted Z's are setup similar... street cars that are setup closer to a road race car only with more power than they could realistically road race with. The car is the problem. Its the design of the IRS. Guys with Vettes and Vipers and what not can run around with 600rwhp, on just decent sticky street tires, and still get OK traction. The Z is a whole different story. Z owners build up to that generally totally reasonable amount of power for the street like 550-600, and only find out when they get there that the Z suspension is NOT up to the task without dedicated slicks. Most Z owners just arent into that. A 600rwhp car shouldnt need full slicks to not roast the tires at 60 or even 80mph. Not many guys are expecting that when they start building their Z. I wouldnt tell them to get slicks because of it... because that is not what they wanted to build. Chuck33079 likes this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

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