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JoeD 08-17-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by grahfz (Post 154537)
Go drive an e39 m5 and tell me it's not a sports car.

I have. I will tell you that it's not a sports-car. If you think so, then your definition of a "sports-car" needs revision.

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Originally Posted by grahfz (Post 154537)
Or that it's not one of the best cars ever built.

I wouldn't quite go that far, but yes...it is a great car. The entire E39 run was a huge success.

bboypuertoroc 08-17-2009 01:44 PM

LOL@this guy... the 911 and Z06 not being able to take advantage of their power on a track where you yourself said you were mostly in 5th gear.

Anyways, WTF kind of tight track can you run mostly in 5th gear? Makes no damn sense.

What track is this?

Tony (doubts a track was even involved)

JoeD 08-17-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc (Post 154610)

What track is this?

Tony (doubts a track was even involved)

They were racing on the freeway while "dippin" through traffic.

blue660r01 08-17-2009 02:32 PM

ibtl

Solus 08-17-2009 02:36 PM

hey maybe he was just in 5th gear at 45 mph for the whole track... hahaha this thread has had me rolling at work

Brazilbro 08-17-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Solus (Post 154272)
We need a smiley that throws a bs flag

:bs:

:ohsnap1:

grahfz 08-17-2009 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 154555)
I have. I will tell you that it's not a sports-car. If you think so, then your definition of a "sports-car" needs revision.

Oh, you're right. Sports cars can survive more than a few laps around a real track. The e39 was a blast around road atlanta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/khAXy5YC4OY&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/khAXy5YC4OY&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

bboypuertoroc 08-17-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 154555)
I have. I will tell you that it's not a sports-car. If you think so, then your definition of a "sports-car" needs revision.

What's your definition of a sports car?

CrownR426 08-17-2009 06:55 PM

:wtf2:

sloterg 08-17-2009 07:03 PM

:ohsnap1:

JoeD 08-17-2009 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc (Post 155051)
What's your definition of a sports car?

-Front-engine/rear-drive (although there are few MR and RR exceptions)
-2-seater
-Standard transmission
-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority

grahfz 08-17-2009 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 155186)
-Front-engine/rear-drive (although there are few MR and RR exceptions)
-2-seater
-Standard transmission
-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority

With the exception of the 2 seater part, sounds like an M5 to me.

JoeD 08-17-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by grahfz (Post 155199)
With the exception of the 2 seater part, sounds like an M5 to me.

The E39 was a purpose-built chassis? Wow...that's news to me. I didn't know a mid-'90s 528i was a sports-car. Next time you see a clueless soccer-mom driving one, say "Hey! Nice sports-car!" :ugh2:

The M5 is a performance luxury-sedan. Of course, how a car is classified and what defines a "sports-car" is a never-ending discussion due to its highly subjective nature. Thankfully, the traits I cited above make for the most widely accepted guidelines.

If an M5 is a sports-car, then so is a 300C SRT-8 with a manual swapped in. Or a G8. Or a Cayenne GTS.

Asheth 08-17-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 155217)
The E39 was a purpose-built chassis? Wow...that's news to me. I didn't know a mid-'90s 528i was a sports-car. Next time you see a clueless soccer-mom driving one, say "Hey! Nice sports-car!" :ugh2:

The M5 is a performance luxury-sedan. Of course, how a car is classified and what defines a "sports-car" is a never-ending discussion due to its highly subjective nature. Thankfully, the traits I cited above make for the most widely accepted guidelines.

If an M5 is a sports-car, then so is a 300C SRT-8 with a manual swapped in. Or a G8. Or a Cayenne GTS.


If I am not mistaken anytime you M-package any BMW you always get performance boosting additions to include suspension. 300C SRT-8 is what just a HP boost and some cool paint jobs and decals. along with the G8-GXP

grahfz 08-17-2009 09:25 PM

-Purpose-built with balanced performance and/or driving-dynamics being the top priority


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