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phunk 02-23-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyD1978 (Post 3119806)
I personally I would not want to have to buy the S1 kit in conjunction with the v2 RRP. I think most people that need this product (track guys) are NA.

My back up plan was to modify the stock pump with fuel pick ups and run an external inline filter. That's no biggy for me to install and maintain (the filter I mean). Probably keep the cost down too.

If you bypass the stock filter or remove it, you will have to also add a return system since the filter is where the regulator you.

As for the RRP, a regulator cannot be added without also adding a filter. It would be poor form to send unfiltered fuel through a regulator. So my options are filter only, regulator and filter, or neither.

AnthonyD1978 02-23-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3119911)
If you bypass the stock filter or remove it, you will have to also add a return system since the filter is where the regulator you.

As for the RRP, a regulator cannot be added without also adding a filter. It would be poor form to send unfiltered fuel through a regulator. So my options are filter only, regulator and filter, or neither.

Thanks for the info. I'll leave this to you, the expert, I just hope the v2 system does not cost more than the v1. If it's easier to install with little to no maintenance that would be a huge plus.

EDIT: Actually wouldn't mind paying a little more for the v2 if it meant the install was considerably easier and less time consuming. I know that's a fine balance....

Coyote 02-24-2015 01:02 PM

Rusty, about the electrical part, where did you put the relay?
TIA!

Rusty 02-24-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Coyote (Post 3121035)
Rusty, about the electrical part, where did you put the relay?
TIA!

If you have the plastic panels removed. I drilled a hole and mounted on the left side of the car. It's on the body panel that mounts the seat belt. It's grounded there too,

Coyote 02-24-2015 04:12 PM

Ok, I kinda picture that.
I feel I'm beginning to see the end of the tunnel ^^
Thanks!

Coyote 02-25-2015 04:54 AM

Is the breaker provided with the kit? I can't remember...

Rusty 02-25-2015 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Coyote (Post 3121625)
Is the breaker provided with the kit? I can't remember...

Breaker?

Coyote 02-25-2015 06:15 AM

The circuit breaker that goes on the + line from battery. It's mentioned as included on the doc (p36), but I don't remember seeing it...

Rusty 02-25-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coyote (Post 3121642)
The circuit breaker that goes on the + line from battery. It's mentioned as included on the doc (p36), but I don't remember seeing it...

Ok, that one. I have it mount next to the battery.

synolimit 02-26-2015 12:26 AM

i know its been asked, sorry, being lazy...whats wrong with packing fuel foam in the drivers side again?

phunk 02-26-2015 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3122532)
i know its been asked, sorry, being lazy...whats wrong with packing fuel foam in the drivers side again?

I can speculate a few nuisances it would create.

but the only thing we know for certain is that you are also too lazy to try it, so thats that. :)

Coyote 02-26-2015 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3121989)
Ok, that one. I have it mount next to the battery.

And was it provided with the kit?

AntiVenom 02-26-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3122532)
i know its been asked, sorry, being lazy...whats wrong with packing fuel foam in the drivers side again?

i assume it's a PITA to install or someone would have tried it already. i've even seen a couple of posts where phunk said "put foam in the tank, let me know"

i'd say my biggest deterrent for installing foam would be foam breakdown/clogging issues. i haven't really thought about foam for some years, but i remember from 4x4 days that guys with extreme rockcrawlers, using foam, would often see that foam break down and clog the system (albeit temporarily). i've read that some foams are better than others and IIRC it has something to do with colors, which i can only assume is a difference in compound/polymer more than aesthetics. they also recommend always keeping a full tank when the truck was stored.

based on his interactions with others phunk seems pretty open to finding alternate solution. i saw someone post about a holley product that works on surface tension principle that looked pretty trick. also someone mentioned putting multiple picks up in the tank (which i guess is complicated by the fuel pump inlet design on our cars).

anyway, just throwing my 1 cent in...

AnthonyD1978 02-26-2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3122532)
i know its been asked, sorry, being lazy...whats wrong with packing fuel foam in the drivers side again?

Scott,

I've done some reading up on the foam over the years. The consensus seems to be that the foam does very little when it comes to fuel starvation. This is especially true for long sweeping corners. It might offer some assistance, but only for a short period of time (short and quick corners).

The foam is really meant to keep the fuel from banging around in the tank during high G changes (roll overs, crashes, chicanes, etc). 10 gallons of fuel smacking the tank can upset the car/truck/bike and be a safety concern. Especially for people that run fuel cells. So it's used to slow down the slosh, but does not do much to eliminate it in the way we need it to.

I know it's used also in large fuel tankers to keep weight transfer to a minimum.

Just some thoughts.

AnthonyD1978 02-26-2015 11:52 AM

Phunk,

Thoughts on this? Sorry if I'm hijacking...

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