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Ron 01-08-2014 04:30 PM

I would be definitely interested on an oil pan more than I am on the diff cover. That is me though, my car is not a track racer like most the ones in this thread. I guess I fall on the "tard" category Chris mentioned earlier of making my car heavier by making it look nice but hey, it is what it is. With the TT I need all the cooling I can get as far as engine oil goes, I'd be down for a high capacity baffled oil pan.

Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with GTM's offering?



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GSS138 01-08-2014 06:19 PM

Katy Texas! That place is gorgeous. Used to work there every once in a while like 15 years ago.

The most politically correct answer I can give you is that nothing is wrong with the idea of a product made by a certain company that may or may not be produced within the next 6 months if history repeats itself.

Ron 01-08-2014 06:34 PM

I've actually moved closer to Houston, I bet Katy hasn't changed much in 15 years lol.

GTMs oil pan solution is available now. I talked to Sam about 2hrs ago and he confirmed it would ship the same/next day if you placed an order through their website.

I thought maybe people didn't want it because of the "engineering" behind it, ie: waiting on something better.

roplusbee 01-08-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 2642348)
I would be definitely interested on an oil pan more than I am on the diff cover. That is me though, my car is not a track racer like most the ones in this thread. I guess I fall on the "tard" category Chris mentioned earlier of making my car heavier by making it look nice but hey, it is what it is. With the TT I need all the cooling I can get as far as engine oil goes, I'd be down for a high capacity baffled oil pan.

Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with GTM's offering?



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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 2642477)
I've actually moved closer to Houston, I bet Katy hasn't changed much in 15 years lol.

GTMs oil pan solution is available now. I talked to Sam about 2hrs ago and he confirmed it would ship the same/next day if you placed an order through their website.

I thought maybe people didn't want it because of the "engineering" behind it, ie: waiting on something better.

I thought you had already picked up the Greddy one. Your Oil Cooler isn't doing the job? My 34 Row and Greddy Oil Pan are holding up just fine with my "inferior" non water cooled turbos.

clintfocus 01-08-2014 06:57 PM

down for pan and diff cover

Ron 01-08-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2642485)
I thought you had already picked up the Greddy one. Your Oil Cooler isn't doing the job? My 34 Row and Greddy Oil Pan are holding up just fine with my "inferior" non water cooled turbos.

No I don't have the Greddy. 34R cooler is enough for spirited street driving but not for track usage in TX summer.

SPOHN 01-08-2014 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 2642348)
I would be definitely interested on an oil pan more than I am on the diff cover. That is me though, my car is not a track racer like most the ones in this thread. I guess I fall on the "tard" category Chris mentioned earlier of making my car heavier by making it look nice but hey, it is what it is. With the TT I need all the cooling I can get as far as engine oil goes, I'd be down for a high capacity baffled oil pan.

Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with GTM's offering?



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The GTM pan is a serious over kill in which I feel there was no research done other than make a big oil pan cause it will fit. The baffle is wonderful on levels. The GTM pan all you get is a big pan with 3qts more oil. So that said it will take a couple months to bring oil up to temps (unless on a track), once up to temperature all you have is more hot oil. There's no real cooling properties going on beyond a oil cooler. Now the pan cost $400+. IMO get a oil pan spacer and 7'' Spal fan for your 34R oil cooler (considering most already do). In which the the Spal fan you can order different sensors to activate at different temps like 195 degrees. So at 195 you are instantly starting a cooling process. A pan is not doing nothing.

SS_Firehawk 01-08-2014 07:51 PM

I love my GTM baffled oil pan. Minus cost of oil changes, I thinks it's great to have, just be sure to use a thermostatic sandwich plate. I don't have much issue getting temps up in cool weather. I can't comment on the effing cold arse weather going on right now tho... I'm out of town again.

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SPOHN 01-08-2014 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2642613)
I love my GTM baffled oil pan. Minus cost of oil changes, I thinks it's great to have, just be sure to use a thermostatic sandwich plate. I don't have much issue getting temps up in cool weather. I can't comment on the effing cold arse weather going on right now tho... I'm out of town again.

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What do you like about it exactly? How hard do you push the car for one period of time? I promise on the track you will see just as high temps as any size cooler. The capacity doesn't help. It really doesn't help in the high stress areas. There's no cooling properties going on after it heats up.

wstar 01-08-2014 08:26 PM

Well, we have other solutions for oil cooling anyways (setrab cores and/or laminova-style). The whole point with a pan upgrade is to get some real baffling so we don't lose oil pickup volume / pressure in a sustained cornering situation (like a fast sweeper). Basically, we're looking for a poor(er) man's solution for what dry-sump systems do :) Which is why I love my AM Perf pan ( http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...-oil-pans.html ) - but they stopped racing and went out of business and only sold a handful of them.

clintfocus 01-08-2014 08:33 PM

i think im going to do another core, need more cooling! LMAO

SS_Firehawk 01-08-2014 08:33 PM

There is cooling capacity in the quantity of oil. Less recirculation of the same oil means more time cooling off. An exaggerated example would be recirculating a quart of liquid compared to a 5 gallon bucket or a lake to an ocean with temp changes. I haven't gotten to excercize it like I want, but even averaging 95-105mph (avg) in the Mojave desert driving home with temps hovering between 90 and 100 depending on elevation, the car never went higher than 220. I can't say how much is attributable to the larger pan, but I can say that with more oil, it's not so critical to get a change every 3750m. The pan fits with my sway bars and fits with the 2012+ cars. It also sits higher then a tradional pan spacer. I can't find much fault in it. Yeah it's expensive, so was everything else I bought for the car.

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GSS138 01-08-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfocus (Post 2642678)
i think im going to do another core, need more cooling! LMAO

Don't put too much fluid in the front clint or else your car be like:
The Official White Girl WOBBLE - YouTube

clintfocus 01-08-2014 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2642912)
Don't put too much fluid in the front clint or else your car be like:
The Official White Girl WOBBLE - YouTube

i want my 3 minutes and 24 seconds back please

GSS138 01-08-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfocus (Post 2642959)
i want my 3 minutes and 24 seconds back please

Try 7 or so years.


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