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emotionr 06-07-2013 03:09 PM

I just got my ride (2010 roadster), and will have to consider getting AMS OIL 5w-30.
I live in Texas, HOT in summer, so hopefully this will help or prevent any issues.

Tigger 06-09-2013 07:49 PM

I have a '12 an added a 25R oil cooler and switched to Valvoline 10W30 VR1 Racing Synthetic. So far all is well. I, too, daily drive mine and will be doing occasional track events.

Spirited flogging through the twists so far has gotten me no more than 215 degrees. It isn't tracking but I'm still finding it very difficult to get the temps over that point. Combination of the stock cooler and an outboard cooler seem to be pretty good. Just try not to go on long drives without a cover. No oil consumption to note yet either. And the slight ticking I had has gone away. I can still hear the valves and cam doing their thing but no ticking like I heard with the stock fill.

bvl 06-16-2013 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2314203)
What type of oil/filter and what Oil weight would you recommend I use if I track my car once a month in SoCal-mainly willow springs etc. It rarely gets below 60F here is usually above 75 F? This is my daily driver and first season of track, but can already see how hot the car gets. Now that the summer months are in, I expect it to be hot out there soon.

Also, any feedback/comments on the 2012 Oil Cooler? How effective is that thing? It does not appear to be huge, but at least it is something.


TX guys.

For track you are looking for a very shear stable product. Folks have mentioned a lot already and I think all of them would do you fine (M1, Amsoil, Motul, Redline).

If you are looking to have extended oil change intervals as well (since your track time is not that frequent), you want a product that has a good additive package as well. To me, that would mean looking at M1 0/40 SN (Wally world has it now in 5 quart jugs...winning)

Redline would be a bad choice for extended OCI's: great product for shear stability but not the best add pack even on their street synthetics (not talking about their pure race products...which is race only really).

For a street oil, Pennzoil Ultra is also an excellent product and their 5/30 has been showing very good UOAs on our Z (PA, 90+deg humid summer days) and I wouldn't hesitate to run that at a track event either.

- b

red2010z 06-16-2013 06:32 AM

Oil is over rated!

sixpax 06-16-2013 06:57 AM

Royal Purple

DLSTR 06-16-2013 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bvl (Post 2365350)
For track you are looking for a very shear stable product. Folks have mentioned a lot already and I think all of them would do you fine (M1, Amsoil, Motul, Redline).

If you are looking to have extended oil change intervals as well (since your track time is not that frequent), you want a product that has a good additive package as well. To me, that would mean looking at M1 0/40 SN (Wally world has it now in 5 quart jugs...winning)

Redline would be a bad choice for extended OCI's: great product for shear stability but not the best add pack even on their street synthetics (not talking about their pure race products...which is race only really).

For a street oil, Pennzoil Ultra is also an excellent product and their 5/30 has been showing very good UOAs on our Z (PA, 90+deg humid summer days) and I wouldn't hesitate to run that at a track event either.

- b

Nice post. I will be trying the Penzoil at the end of the summer when service is due!

jrb55gh 07-28-2013 02:39 PM

Regarding Mobil 1
 
There is more than one Mobil 1. There is the normal auto parts store version and there is also Mobile 1 4T which is targeted at high performance sport bikes and auto racing. The 4T is about double the price of the normal consumer Mobil 1. The Mobile 1 MX4T (as it was called then) is the oil I saw stacked up in cases in the pits of Texas Motor Speedway during a NASCAR race a few years ago. So I believe that could be the version of Mobile 1 used in big time racing. It appears to be available with API ratings of SM (small quantities of extreme pressure additives) and SH (larger quantities of extreme pressure additives).

Here is a link to the Mobil 1 4T product page: Motorcycle Oil | Mobil 1 Racing 4T™ 10W-40

Rusty 07-28-2013 04:28 PM

DON"T! use motorcycle oil in your car! 98% of the motorcycles out there have a wet clutch in them. Meaning that the engine oil is also the transmission oil too. and the clutch is bathed in it too. So the oil designed for that type of set-up has different elements in it. What's good in a car engine, is not good for the clutch plates in the bike. Over time the clutch will slip. So what's good for a bike, is not that great for a car motor. I'm keeping this simple. ;)



Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 is recommended for 4-cycle motorcycles which specify the use a 10W-40 engine oil. This oil will help provide excellent performance in motorcycle engines that are designed with a common engine/transmission lubrication system or where the engine lubrication system is separate from the transmission system. In the case of the latter, follow the manufacturer's recommendation for the type of fluid to be used in the transmission. Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 engine oil is designed to help provide the proper frictional characteristics necessary for wet-clutch common engine/transmission systems. It has been fully tested, both on laboratory dynamometers and in the field, to help provide optimum horsepower and acceleration

synolimit 07-28-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2314234)
Amsoil signtature series. 5W30. You asked about weight the starting weight is just the beginning weight the 2nd number is what it goes to after its warmed up so the weight would be the recommended oil 5w30 unless you have a turbo on there then a heavier weight may be needed (I.e 5w40)
I run the K&N oil filter it has a hex head so when you take it off its super easy. I coupled that with a magnetic add on that clips to the filter to keep all metal shavings in the filter and a Greddy magnetic drain plug.

Amsoil is the first in synthetics and I use in all my cars engines, transmissions and differentials. Google amsoil vs *any oil brand* and you will see it annihilates the competition.

while the "series" might change, this has been a good rule of thumb for awhile. from best to worst starting points of oils...(not all shown). oil reports will tell what "annihilates" the competition.

The best base stock is Polyol-ester (Redline & Motul)

Next best is Di-ester (Royal Purple, Amsoil, Neo)

Next is Polyolefin polyamine (Mobil 1)

Next is Hydrocracked (Syntec, Valvoline)

And finally, regular dyno oils.

MIKE_STR 07-31-2013 09:44 AM

Motul has a 0w40 that is specifically recommended for the 370z. It's about $60 for a 5 liter jug... (5.1 quarts) Just enough for a complete oil change (if you don't have an oil cooler). I'm trying it this weekend. Motul makes all of Nissans oil. Including the super duper Estér Oil.

Motul 8100 Synthetic Motor Oil: JSC Speed

carlitos_370z 06-12-2015 10:39 AM

ok im a little confuse:confused: now after reading all this thread hahaha!! I use Mobil1 synthetic oil 5w30 Extended Performance since I buy my Z.... I would use Amsoil or even Motul but to find those oils here in Puerto Rico is very difficult :( Well I use my car as my Daily Driven and some sprinted or track days sometimes... My question is... If I change now to Mobil1 0w40 they are going to work better than the 5w30 that is the one recommended for Nissan to our engines? the temps over here are arround 70+ to 95 degrees and in summer on a very hot day you can see temps on 100 degrees :eekdance:

Any help or recommendation are welcome... BTW the oil cooler are on my wish list as soon my new damn wheels arrive someday :shakes head:

Thanks!

Rusty 06-12-2015 06:44 PM

I run the Mobil 0W-40.No problems.

Hotrodz 06-14-2015 07:52 AM

:iagree: This what I run here in AZ were temps are in the triple digits in the summer.

cv129 06-14-2015 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3227394)
I run the Mobil 0W-40.No problems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3228495)
:iagree: This what I run here in AZ were temps are in the triple digits in the summer.

Ditto

carlitos_370z 06-15-2015 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3227394)
I run the Mobil 0W-40.No problems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3228495)
:iagree: This what I run here in AZ were temps are in the triple digits in the summer.

Thanks for the info guys! I really appreciated... When the next maintenance to the Z comes Im going to try it :tup:


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