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Minsu 03-19-2013 11:57 PM

kinda just gonna jump into like cold water and warm up as i swim.
but yea i mean i know the shifters are there but do you use them for such?

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2222778)
kinda just gonna jump into like cold water and warm up as i swim.
but yea i mean i know the shifters are there but do you use them for such?

Not often, I use the shifter more, and to be honest, if you need to floor it, it's better to be in D.

It functions like a manual in tiptronic, if you floor it while the car is in 7th, it ain't going nowhere quickly until you shift down
Leave it in D, it shifts to the lowest gear it physically can

Minsu 03-20-2013 12:03 AM

i just dont want to be missing out on the brakes are the brakes on the base really all the great i know there brembos right? but are the stock brakes not strong or something?

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2222791)
i just dont want to be missing out on the brakes are the brakes on the base really all the great i know there brembos right? but are the stock brakes not strong or something?

Alrighty then.
Now. I will make the recommendation that you don't buy the car...

Stick around a bit longer before you pull the trigger and go on A FEW test drives...

They're Akebonos, the base brakes are OK for DD-ing, and your first few track days... They heat up much quicker casing brake fade. That's the issue

Minsu 03-20-2013 12:13 AM

its gonna be my dd no track for me dont wanna die to early.
slightly misinformed here. Honestly the whole auto vs manual thing for me is 30% of the issue. People say "theres just something to driving stick" and i can kinda understand what there getting at. But if you drive manual im gonna assume you cant do much but drive. although this is what it should be i cant help but pick up my phone for an important call.
Im gonna take your advices on sticking around longer and the auto thing
thanks so much for the help really helped

DarkJak 03-20-2013 02:40 AM

I drive auto and I believe that our 7AT is the best traditional automatic transmission out there.

It shifts pretty fast, I believe less than half a second. The paddles are column mounted and very large, same as the GT-R's. They feel great to shift with, not clicky and flimsy like a lot of other paddles.

A lot of other cars will automatically upshift at redline when in manual mode, and a good deal won't let you downshift aggressively (ISF Im looking at you). The 7AT in the Z will hold gears and will let you downshift down to redline. It's also not much heavier than the manual trans, I think the number I read was 25 or 50 lbs, whereas most are over 100lb weight increases.

A manual is definitely more fun when you are just driving for fun though. It's one more interaction you have with the car. But having that additional action also makes it more of a chore if you ever have to drive in a traffic jam, or city traffic.

Off the line, I believe our auto gives us a pretty good advantage. I have a friend who recently bought a modded STi, putting 350 hp to the wheels. We had a couple runs on a country road, and due to having perfect and quick shifts everytime, the 7AT helped me pull on his car. And I sat in his car on a more technical course, he wasn't willing to go down a gear for some turns, which means he wasn't as quick coming out of the corner, putting him out of his powerband. Meanwhile, I was always able to keep in the 4.5-7k range, and it made several seconds difference. The advantage would be lost on a full sized track though, where speeds are higher.

I've had a lot of people who talk down to me for getting an automatic on a sports car, but after I show them how it works and the things I could do with it, they always change their opinions.

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 03:02 AM

:iagree: with 100% of what this man is saying.
He speaks sense and wisdom

Jordo! 03-20-2013 05:20 AM

I really, really love the AT on this car. Stock the shifts are faster on the average than any human can shift (as evidenced by marginally faster mean 0-60 and 1/4 mile times compared to the 6MT), and with a tune you can make the shifts even faster and firmer.

Reviews have been, to he best of my knowledge, universally positive (note: the G37's trans tune may be different, and has been slightly less adored...). Short of a GT-R or PDK Porsche, you won't find anything like it.

Also, no evidence of greater drivetrain losses than the MT on dynos (full lock up torque converter from gears 2-7, and cf composite driveshaft probably help there) , which is remarkable, but has been repeatedly empirically verified.

And -- you get automatically rev matched downshifts, even on the non-sport package version of the 7AT.

Unless you do not consider the act of operating a motor vehicle to be "driving" in the absence of a third pedal (and to be fair, many folks do feel that way), I think you we quite pleased with the 7AT.

SgtGoldy 03-20-2013 06:40 AM

Ive got the G in AT which I am pretty sure in 100% the same as the Z. I made a Grounding Kit and I now can shift faster than anyone with a manual and 90% of people with AT. I have taken cars soley because of the quicker gear grabs.

122554 03-20-2013 06:54 AM

Besides, a MT is the best anti auto theft/car jacking device there is! The idiots can't drive a stick :)

mrthomr 03-20-2013 07:14 AM

I have fun with my auto plus the Mrs. can drive it. Kinda hard to fondle the ladies with no free hands. That one leaves most speachless after asking the manual question.

--Sent from Galaxy Note while driving with eyes closed.

falconfixer 03-20-2013 07:35 AM

I've been driving manuals for the past 20 years and went to the dealership with the same mentality that a sports car should be nothing but a manual. Then I test drove my 7AT, signed the papers and haven't looked back. I just ignore the manual versus automatic debates because arguing about which is better is like pissing into the wind. Drive what feels right to you and what you are going to enjoy.

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by falconfixer (Post 2223032)
I've been driving manuals for the past 20 years and went to the dealership with the same mentality that a sports car should be nothing but a manual. Then I test drove my 7AT, signed the papers and haven't looked back. I just ignore the manual versus automatic debates because arguing about which is better is like pissing into the wind. Drive what feels right to you and what you are going to enjoy.

I don't like peeing into the wind, gets on my shoes...

SgtGoldy 03-20-2013 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by falconfixer (Post 2223032)
I've been driving manuals for the past 20 years and went to the dealership with the same mentality that a sports car should be nothing but a manual. Then I test drove my 7AT, signed the papers and haven't looked back. I just ignore the manual versus automatic debates because arguing about which is better is like pissing into the wind. Drive what feels right to you and what you are going to enjoy.

Pretty much same here. The only thing I miss is having the power over the clutch. But that is a small price to pay for how much fun it is to drive with the paddle shifters :happydance:

Shamu 03-20-2013 08:08 AM

Since this is posted in track section I'd say its a bad choice. If your serious about track car get manual. If you are more worried about sitting in traffic get an SUV. Nice Audi, Porsche, Mercedes SUV are much nicer in traffic. Good visibility over traffic much more comfortable, more room to stretch out and sip your latte.


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