370z drift setup?

bboylegit · 09-02-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

Im not sure of the weight difference but if anything it will help decrease weight for flicking the car in short turns and should help prevent spinouts. This car is easy to spin out because it has so much weight in the rear that you barely need to do anything to get it sideways. If you clutch kick/ebrake/feint, its just for a second and then you're sideways so you may have to initiate a bit harder but I doubt it will make that much of a difference. But losing weight is never a bad thing for this heavy car.

I had my friend in my car and we were doing some clutch kicks and messing around and he said it feels like the VDC is still on even though i turned it off. Did you come across this problem and if so, how did you fix it to turn the VDC completely off?

_ace_ · 09-03-2012, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bboylegit

I had my friend in my car and we were doing some clutch kicks and messing around and he said it feels like the VDC is still on even though i turned it off. Did you come across this problem and if so, how did you fix it to turn the VDC completely off?

Strangely, I've repeatedly heard that you need to pull the brake light fuse. I've never bothered to try it.

JARblue · 02-25-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bboylegit

I had my friend in my car and we were doing some clutch kicks and messing around and he said it feels like the VDC is still on even though i turned it off. Did you come across this problem and if so, how did you fix it to turn the VDC completely off?

Even with VDC OFF, part of the ABS called ABLS still applies braking to the faster spinning wheel when there is a discrepancy. You have to pull the ABS fuse to disable the feature.

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Originally Posted by _ace_

Strangely, I've repeatedly heard that you need to pull the brake light fuse. I've never bothered to try it.

Pulling the STOP LAMP fuse disables a non-traction issue where the car cuts throttle when the brakes are activated. This also disables your brake lights, and should not be done until you are off public roads.

VDC_OFF · 02-26-2014, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wdkwang

Hey VDC, I agree with you on the steering angle issue. This car doesn't have nearly enough of it. The VLSD is rather finicky, as well. I wanted to ask you on how you've gotten the car to ebrake drift cause mine does not have nearly enough locking power even after retightening it. Yes, I do clutch in.
I mainly power over or clutch kick. Only power over when it's raining.

When I use the ebrake its on tight low speed turns and I also use it with a feint move. First I swing the car away from the turn then towards the turn, then I yank the ebrake and counter steer. Works pretty well with me.

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Originally Posted by URA

I've made my own inner tie rod spacers spacers that give more angle but at a cost of having less thread and also installed project mu ebrake pads...that help a bit more than factory but still not perfect.

btw a welded diff solves all lsd issues for drifting and adds float to the rear end.

I really dont recommend just using spacers on these cars. I thought of doing that until I saw how short and stubby they tie rod threads were. You will be left with very little threads so it wasnt worth it to me. You might want to hit up George Marstanovic and see if he can make some of these for the 370z. Im sure he will if there is enough interest. Steering Angle Rack Spacers - Maverick Motorsports

URA · 02-28-2014, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

When I use the ebrake its on tight low speed turns and I also use it with a feint move. First I swing the car away from the turn then towards the turn, then I yank the ebrake and counter steer. Works pretty well with me.

I really dont recommend just using spacers on these cars. I thought of doing that until I saw how short and stubby they tie rod threads were. You will be left with very little threads so it wasnt worth it to me. You might want to hit up George Marstanovic and see if he can make some of these for the 370z. Im sure he will if there is enough interest. Steering Angle Rack Spacers - Maverick Motorsports

I made 6mm units and it leaves enough thread for drifting IMO. unless you drift with potholes. The issue is not so much the thread as it is the wheels wanting to turn more than the lower control arm lets you. I've shaved some of the lower control arms for more angle...it will be enough until an angle kit is made for the 370z. (I have a set of narrower wheels for the front to test)
Been developing this car with the help of 2 FD drivers.

sibalar · 03-03-2014, 01:18 PM

URA, do you have any pictures of how you grinded the lower control arms? I'm still waiting for Voodoo13 to give more information on their drop knuckles, but I bet they will be crazy expensive.

URA · 03-14-2014, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sibalar

URA, do you have any pictures of how you grinded the lower control arms? I'm still waiting for Voodoo13 to give more information on their drop knuckles, but I bet they will be crazy expensive.

I will have to take one pic next time.

URA · 03-30-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sibalar

URA, do you have any pictures of how you grinded the lower control arms? I'm still waiting for Voodoo13 to give more information on their drop knuckles, but I bet they will be crazy expensive.

there is a pic of the damage from the wheel
370Z Drift Project + angle + stability + control

VDC_OFF · 03-03-2014, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by URA

I made 6mm units and it leaves enough thread for drifting IMO. unless you drift with potholes. The issue is not so much the thread as it is the wheels wanting to turn more than the lower control arm lets you. I've shaved some of the lower control arms for more angle...it will be enough until an angle kit is made for the 370z. (I have a set of narrower wheels for the front to test)
Been developing this car with the help of 2 FD drivers.

Yeah our courses are pretty bumpy :P

So now Im curious to know who is helping you haha. 370z drivers like Forsberg and Castro? Im going to still see if I can get some adapters made, Ive just been focusing on buying a house lately and possibly selling the Z.

chknhawk · 03-12-2014, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

Yeah our courses are pretty bumpy :P

So now Im curious to know who is helping you haha. 370z drivers like Forsberg and Castro? Im going to still see if I can get some adapters made, Ive just been focusing on buying a house lately and possibly selling the Z.

^^NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

guess you gotta do what you gotta do though. Im subbing this thread. Anyone have any recommendation on coilover settings. I have stance GR+ and I am trying to dial them in for AUTOX... im guessing the same setup for drift would apply with maybe a little more neg camber up front. Maybe an alignment printout or something? thanks!

URA · 03-14-2014, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

Yeah our courses are pretty bumpy :P

So now Im curious to know who is helping you haha. 370z drivers like Forsberg and Castro? Im going to still see if I can get some adapters made, Ive just been focusing on buying a house lately and possibly selling the Z.

Yea Chris has been really helpful and Miro has been super with helping me understand drift setup / driving and balancing things out.

Adapters won't solve the bigger picture since the lower control arms are in the way,+ the caster is not very much stock (need arms to adjust) and the Ackerman angle is def not for drifting on this car. The Angle kit that Chris is working on takes care of all these issues as far as angle, caster,camber,ackerman, and controlling bump steer is concerned.

ABS is a problem ... and working on pulling it out.

VDC_OFF · 09-03-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bboylegit

I had my friend in my car and we were doing some clutch kicks and messing around and he said it feels like the VDC is still on even though i turned it off. Did you come across this problem and if so, how did you fix it to turn the VDC completely off?

Nope, never had that problem. Sometimes I forget to turn it off after turning off and on the car and then it wont let me drift but as soon as i turn it off its play time! Just make sure you keep your foot on the gas when you quickly kick the clutch. What exactly is it doing?

bboylegit · 09-03-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

Nope, never had that problem. Sometimes I forget to turn it off after turning off and on the car and then it wont let me drift but as soon as i turn it off its play time! Just make sure you keep your foot on the gas when you quickly kick the clutch. What exactly is it doing?

Maybe I'm just tripping. It kind of feels like the car is correcting itself.

VDC_OFF · 09-04-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bboylegit

Maybe I'm just tripping. It kind of feels like the car is correcting itself.

Hard to tell without being in the car, if you let go of the gas it will will try to straighten out or flick the other way but thats the only thing I can think of. Unless you have an automatic and are trying to pull the ebrake.

bboylegit · 09-05-2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

Hard to tell without being in the car, if you let go of the gas it will will try to straighten out or flick the other way but thats the only thing I can think of. Unless you have an automatic and are trying to pull the ebrake.

I have a 6spd

lol. But, it just feels like after it brakes traction it kind of fights to stay sideways. Its really not that big of deal to me right now. I still have fun in it. I was just curious if anyone else was feeling the same thing.

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sibalar Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: virginia beach Posts: 6 Drives: 11 370z Rep Power: 14	URA, do you have any pictures of how you grinded the lower control arms? I'm still waiting for Voodoo13 to give more information on their drop knuckles, but I bet they will be crazy expensive.