Is the new Toybaru going to be competitive in CS?

AutoX Z · 07-30-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

The acceleration is depressing, but then the RX-8 was the same way and no one seem to be able to beat it.

You keep saying that but the RX-8 has 50 more bhp. The RX-8's are fast but have not done well nationally with a few exceptions since the merger.

It will be an interesting class with the MSR and ZOK gone especially if the current class leaders switch to a different car and stay with the class.

I'm a little surprised the BRZ/FRS can only fit a 245. With the rest of the class on 265's, 285's, or 295's, being able to squeeze the 275 seems critical.

cossie1600 · 07-30-2012, 09:46 PM

Yes but most of the power is at the very top of the revs. I believe the BRZ redlines 2nd gear at about 58-60mph while the RX-8 is 62-64. It's been a while since I had my RX-8, don't recall all the specifics with it.

You are right the RX-8 hasn't done well at the nationals, but neither has the 370 with the exception of you and one or two others. Of course it is from a much smaller sample size, so who knows. As a former owner of two RX-8s (I traded my 06 in for the 370), I have no idea how the RX-8 is even in the same ballpark. I guess it depends on tight the course is.

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Originally Posted by AutoX Z

You keep saying that but the RX-8 has 50 more bhp. The RX-8's are fast but have not done well nationally with a few exceptions since the merger.

It will be an interesting class with the MSR and ZOK gone especially if the current class leaders switch to a different car and stay with the class.

I'm a little surprised the BRZ/FRS can only fit a 245. With the rest of the class on 265's, 285's, or 295's, being able to squeeze the 275 seems critical.

dwx · 07-31-2012, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AutoX Z

You keep saying that but the RX-8 has 50 more bhp. The RX-8's are fast but have not done well nationally with a few exceptions since the merger.

It will be an interesting class with the MSR and ZOK gone especially if the current class leaders switch to a different car and stay with the class.

I'm a little surprised the BRZ/FRS can only fit a 245. With the rest of the class on 265's, 285's, or 295's, being able to squeeze the 275 seems critical.

275 might be doable, I'm at least glad Hoosier came out with the 275/35/17. I'm using a +42 rim which is as far as I can go and stay stock legal. I just had the 245s mounted and there is more clearance than I thought there would be with the front camber maxed out but the 275/35 is quite a bit wider. It will just be part of the development of the car to find out what works best. It is at least a couple hundred lbs lighter than its competitors not counting the Miata. I believe Chris runs 225s on his car and it's about 300 lbs lighter than the BRZ.

Since the 275/35 is brand new I doubt anyone has used ones they are willing to give up for test fitting.

BFG sells a 255/40/17 R1-S which I'm sure would fit but I think the jury is still out if it is a true competitor to the A6.

dwx · 07-31-2012, 08:53 AM

I read on another forum Jadrice Toussaint (last years BS national champ) drove someone's BRZ at an event and ended up getting an FR-S the next week. He autocrossed it a couple weeks ago on Hoosiers in an event along with his BS S2000. I guess the car he had was an automatic and he was about 2.5s slower than his BS S2000, but now he has a manual FR-S.

He ran a staggered setup with 245/40/17 on the front and 275/40/17 in the rear. I don't think a staggered setup is going to really be ideal for he car imho, but he was just testing things out. 275/40 gives the car a bit more gearing in 2nd but it's quite a bit taller and I don't know if I'd want to give away that much in a car with such low torque.

07-31-2012, 08:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
dwx Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta Posts: 3 Drives: Subaru Rep Power: 14	I read on another forum Jadrice Toussaint (last years BS national champ) drove someone's BRZ at an event and ended up getting an FR-S the next week. He autocrossed it a couple weeks ago on Hoosiers in an event along with his BS S2000. I guess the car he had was an automatic and he was about 2.5s slower than his BS S2000, but now he has a manual FR-S. He ran a staggered setup with 245/40/17 on the front and 275/40/17 in the rear. I don't think a staggered setup is going to really be ideal for he car imho, but he was just testing things out. 275/40 gives the car a bit more gearing in 2nd but it's quite a bit taller and I don't know if I'd want to give away that much in a car with such low torque.