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cossie1600 02-11-2012 08:04 PM

Personally I would do at least 255 in the F&R

KevinB 02-15-2012 02:28 PM

So what size tires for stock 18 inch rims front/rear (ie. touring nonsport) would you guys rec for autocross? I'm not sure what options are available that would be reliable and allow me to have a better selection of tires.

Shamu 02-18-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AutoX Z (Post 1529386)
It a heavy car that needs a lot of tire but it needs it more on the front. Running a staggered set-up can only result in lots of understeer. I think the trick will be fitting 315's square without having to cut/flare the front fenders.

Curious what you are basing this on? I have been driving prepared cars etc for a long time and well setup 370z on staggered setup is completely nueteral from what I have seen. I experience very little understeer with 295/315 stagger. I think for average ax driver staggered will work fine if you have flexibility to use differnt suspension setup than stock.

I don't think shoving a 315 under front is going to accomplish much and for people in cooler regions I'd argue solo driver will have issues with getting that much tire warm.

I will be experimenting however I don't think a well setup car on mild 295/315 stagger will see as much understeer as you think. If anything my car tends to have a little oversteer. But I base this from running mostly cool venues as a single driver. Just wish more serious ax guys were trying SP/SSM mods.

A two driver car on warm surface may in fact benefit from 315 upfront. But honestly if I go to 315 front I'm going to 335 rear.

Shamu 02-18-2012 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinB (Post 1538903)
I have decided to stay in Stock Touring category. I currently have stillen front/rear sways so I am going to put the rear stock bar back on and set the front to full soft for now. I have a non-sport touring model with the 18" rims and I need recs for a tire setup:

Option 1: keep stock sizes front/rear ... Seems to be limited in tire choices
Option 2: keep stock rims and upgrade tire size ... Uncharted territory for me as i have little knowledge of offsets, sizes, etc. (anyone have a setup that really worked well?)

Any comments appreciated!

sCCA just announced a road tire class for stock cars that will happen at National tour events. All rear wheel drive cars will run in an indexed class. Given 370z is CS you would have favorable pax. This might be perfect timing for you. Just need to find good street tires that fit your wheels. Not sure what tire would be best?

KevinB 02-18-2012 08:25 PM

Shamu,

I am thinking of going with 245/45/18 up front and 275/40/18 (base, stock 18" rims). This will keep a staggered setup with bigger tires than I have right now.

For tires, I am considering trying the Continental Extreme Contact DW. They have gotten some good reviews:
http://www.modified.com/tech/modp-09...s/viewall.html

And they are about $800 for four corners (including shipping).

Since this is my first foray into autocross I don't have the skills to push the car hard enough to make (in my opinion) a big enough difference that I would need to go with a much more expensive tire.

In regards to sway bar settings ... I have stillens up front and rear ... any suggestions regarding stiffness front vs. rear?

IMWEZL 02-18-2012 10:48 PM

I think the conti extreme contact DWs will be okay. I have them on my MKV GTI and they put up pretty good with my very spirited driving style. They progressively give out but that might change on a RWD setup.

Next weekend is the first event in my area. I signed up for the novice day just to get some more seat time.

Is everyone just using vinyl for numbers? I really don't want to use blue tape. :/

cossie1600 02-19-2012 12:33 AM

You really have no tire options in your size short of the RE-11, which are way overpriced at $310+. The only thing you might want to think about doing is to go with a smaller size, Kumho XS can be had for about $800 if you are willing to run a smaller tire.

Shamu 02-19-2012 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinB (Post 1552420)
Shamu,

I am thinking of going with 245/45/18 up front and 275/40/18 (base, stock 18" rims). This will keep a staggered setup with bigger tires than I have right now.

For tires, I am considering trying the Continental Extreme Contact DW. They have gotten some good reviews:
Continental Extreme Contact DW Tire Review - Modified Magazine

And they are about $800 for four corners (including shipping).

Since this is my first foray into autocross I don't have the skills to push the car hard enough to make (in my opinion) a big enough difference that I would need to go with a much more expensive tire.

In regards to sway bar settings ... I have stillens up front and rear ... any suggestions regarding stiffness front vs. rear?

245 won't be enough front tire for autocross.

I'd reccomend Hankook RS3 in 265/35/18 front and 275/35/18 rear or even 275/35/18 front and 285/35/18 rear. Hard for me to say what will work on your car in bar department as I don't know what else you have but 370 needs lots of anti roll especially with stockish camber settings so I'd start with at least mid settings and then experiment.

If someone were to hear my setup they'd say no way would it work for ax. I have huge 35mm front bar and 1000 lb front springs with stock nismo rear bar and 450 lb rears. I spent lots of time on camber and toe settings but you can't do much about camber in a stock car.

IMWEZL 02-26-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1552335)
Given 370z is CS you would have favorable pax

Is the 370Z still CS for stock classes? My local region told me I was BS. I ran against a Subaru WRX STI that put up one heck of a fight throughout the day and edged me out.

Going by the 2011 classification list it states the Z as CS.

Also any tips on psi settings for the RE-11s? I chewed the fronts up a good bit on the course we ran but then again that was more than 15 runs on a 25-30 second course.

///MSH 02-26-2012 07:22 PM

I just went to 18's... I am committed to ASP. I have 18x9.5 +30 (f) and 18x10.5 +15(r) with hoosier A6's 275's up front and 315's in the rear. This is an interim for spring (less heat in tires) until summer where I will bump up to 295's in the front. I'm with Shamu...you need a bit more tire in the rear despit the desire to be square.

To the point of this post and thread....other than seat time....tires,tires, tires. I figure A6's are good for 1.5 -2.0 seconds on a 45-60 second course.

Who will I see at Nationals this year....I will be there in ASP. side note - get a co-driver.....it's a great mod and it does help the budget!!!!!!!!

03threefiftyz 02-26-2012 07:48 PM

I'll be there in BSP.

AutoX Z 02-27-2012 06:42 PM

I'll be in CS.

IMWEZL 02-27-2012 06:48 PM

I'll try to get there in CS.

trickle80 03-25-2012 05:27 PM

autocross lsd
 
base model 2009

autocrossed twice now, basically everytime i come out of the corner and get on the throttle i start sliding out. I am wondering if this has more to do with my inexperienced heavy foot, the lack of lsd, or the stock tires.

takjak2 03-25-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by trickle80 (Post 1620008)
base model 2009

autocrossed twice now, basically everytime i come out of the corner and get on the throttle i start sliding out. I am wondering if this has more to do with my inexperienced heavy foot, the lack of lsd, or the stock tires.

all of the above :tup:


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