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Jeffblue 12-12-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1447112)
I know what you are saying, its just not making sense. My z06 is very docile at low rpm in high gears, too. Of course an fi car feels different from an na car. Noone races from 2nd gear at 10mph, though. You might as well complain that the car sucks because it doesn't have a third row seat and a trailer hitch. Drive it how it was intended and it will be fine. As a side note, my friend says the 2009 shelby cobra he drive felt faster around town than my z06. I don't worry about 09 shelbys much, though. Of course, I have not raced one in 2nd gear from 10mph, either, so its superior low end is lost on me. As far as I know, this thread is about racing and maximum performance type driving, not how hard/easy it is to lug the vq series engine.

I wasn't talking about racing from 2nd gear at 10mph. you brought up the idea of having a useful powerband.

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1446205)
Still, the powerband is very useful. Much moreso than peak dyno numbers suggest. the car reminds me of my fbody/ls1 car in how it applies power.

as far as im concerned, a useful powerband implies how a car feels in normal driving, not balls to the wall WOT pulls. when you step on the gas in the 370z at low RPM it is very, very tame. idk about you, but when i think of a 'useful' powerband, i think of how the car feels and responds in the useful rpm range. a car with power in the 'useful' range, which is really more between 3-5k rpm, will feel fast without having to beat the snot out of the car. the 370z isn't fast unless you drive it very hard. the 370z does have 332bhp but you can't USE it unless you are in the high rpms and basically say 'hey i wanna drive fast now.' that doesn't seem 'useful' to me

your point about tow hitches etc is totally irrelevant to what we are talking about.

ImportConvert 12-12-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1447275)
I wasn't talking about racing from 2nd gear at 10mph. you brought up the idea of having a useful powerband.



as far as im concerned, a useful powerband implies how a car feels in normal driving, not balls to the wall WOT pulls. when you step on the gas in the 370z at low RPM it is very, very tame. idk about you, but when i think of a 'useful' powerband, i think of how the car feels and responds in the useful rpm range. a car with power in the 'useful' range, which is really more between 3-5k rpm, will feel fast without having to beat the snot out of the car. the 370z isn't fast unless you drive it very hard. the 370z does have 332bhp but you can't USE it unless you are in the high rpms and basically say 'hey i wanna drive fast now.' that doesn't seem 'useful' to me

your point about tow hitches etc is totally irrelevant to what we are talking about.

BMW offers the 335 with a diesel. I think you know what to do...

Jeffblue 12-12-2011 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1447283)
BMW offers the 335 with a diesel. I think you know what to do...

i thought we were talking about the 370z... have you nothing to say about the points i made?

christian370z 12-12-2011 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1446800)
Cars with flat tq curves feel a lot slower than they are. Go race your 335 and compare. Second at 15mph in your z shouldn't be that bad. I found the car very livable at lower rpm. It gets nearly max torque at less than 2500rpm for crying out loud.

I'd rather have a car that is faster than it feels than one that feels faster than it is.

danny370z777 12-12-2011 09:58 PM

:tup:
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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1447406)
I'd rather have a car that is faster than it feels than one that feels faster than it is.


ImportConvert 12-12-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1447402)
i thought we were talking about the 370z... have you nothing to say about the points i made?

Yes, its just as fast as a 346ci v8 vette. It likes to rev. Rev it. You want low rpm power, go get a muscle car with a 455 or the like. Modern engines handle high rpm just fine. I have a 427 that can see 7000 rpm, and has a 100k mile warranty. If it takes a few revs, do it to it. I'm just not seeing the issue. Hold your gears a touch longer and your problem goes away. My g20 sees 4500rpm or better on most gear changes. Engine has done fine.

toxik 12-13-2011 02:55 PM

fly like a g20

toxik 12-13-2011 02:59 PM

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ImportConvert 12-13-2011 07:06 PM

Jesus. Every time I remove you from the iggylist I get dumber for it. Back on it.

toxik 12-13-2011 07:13 PM

haha yesssssss

b1adesofcha0s 12-13-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik (Post 1448289)

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1448312)
Jesus. Every time I remove you from the iggylist I get dumber for it. Back on it.

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Originally Posted by toxik (Post 1448320)
haha yesssssss

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Methodical4u 12-13-2011 10:10 PM

Honestly as i've said before I don't get on my car much and when I do it's not to redline.. but with the exhaust and the tp's it's a very cool feeling having the car just keep on pulling way into the rpm's.

For the guys who have moved their redline to 8100, does the car pull all the way up to that?

Red__Zed 12-13-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1448524)
Honestly as i've said before I don't get on my car much and when I do it's not to redline.. but with the exhaust and the tp's it's a very cool feeling having the car just keep on pulling way into the rpm's.

For the guys who have moved their redline to 8100, does the car pull all the way up to that?

http://www.z1motorsports.com/imageGa...591/8100_G.jpg

Methodical4u 12-13-2011 11:40 PM

hmmm... doesn't look like it huh? lol

ImportConvert 12-14-2011 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1448620)
hmmm... doesn't look like it huh? lol

Most cars look like that, but it's better, even if it's not consistently climbing until the end, because the rpms fall to a happier place after the shift than they would before. It may not improve maximum hp, but it certainly improves average hp, over the course of any distance such as the 1/4 mile.


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