Does anyone feel high 11's NA are possible with the 370?
 

I know we have a few low 12's and one 12.24. I know they likely had all of the NA mods possible, but I don't know about any sort of weight reduction or how much.

With more stuff coming out and the possibility of the VVEL getting cracked (hopefully) who feels high 11's are possible?

I'm just curious, just for the sake of debate.

Depends on the Mr. Wallet!

No...simple answer. Jason (Jnaut) who ran the 12.24 had every bolt on AND an aggressive then and he could drive. Gaining another 1/4 of a second would be near impossible.

Add drag radials to Jnaut's car and with optimal track conditons, I THINK he might be able to pull of a 11.99.

f the bolt ons, rebuild the motor

i think it will eventually happen. maybe someones lightweight road race car would do it?

cracking VVEL will probably never actually happen, and even if it does, everyone holding their breath thinking they are going to make gobs of power tweaking it are in for a serious let down.

I think it is possible. The right driver, 60fter,mods,tires,reduced weight? Those are just the start of what you will need. Add in location, weather and all the factors that come in with that yes anything is possible. Has anybody done it yet nope. What was Jnaut's 60fter? Weather? Weight of vehicle with him in it? Mods and Tires? I am doing full bolt on's and I have some dr's waiting for me when I return. I'll do my best.

Do not think so.
im getting the converter reworked this winter so i can launch at 3500 vs 1900 rpm / The GTM converter gave me and improvment of .42 of a second after he modified it and i think that there is more left to gain.
it may put me into the low 12.3's. The problem with the auto is the 4th to 5 th shift it take .61 of a second.
Sam is working on the VB and hopefully i should have it by next spring. If it can cut the shift time to .41 . 12.12 would be the best that i could expect.
the car ran perfectly on the 12.42 run. it pulled its brains out. Puting the motordyne art pipes might help. too.

Z

Never say never Z eliminator anything is possible. I am still waiting for updates on that plenum spacer and I believe someone is in the works for a new manifold. Only the future will tell.

The quickist turbo car is running 11.7's. the trap seeds are increadable.
The stillen SC is also in the 11.7s (if im wrong some body tell me.
You need lots of rwhp and perfect weather and track conditions.
J nauts car and mine are done to the 9's.
i will be going to the track in a few weeks and we will see what it runs.
Im also waiting for the spacer results and i may put the factory intake manifold back on.
I think that it may pull stronger on the top end.

Z

Pretty unlikely

This. I think maybe 11.99 is the best we could hope for if Jnaut get's some drag radials, maybe any weight reduction or something he hasn't done so already (which I doubt), and get absolutely perfect conditions for that one run.

^ This

Although I think he'd really need a set of ET Streets and a hot launch to pull it off. Of course that brings up the question of whether or not the rear end could handle a 5-6k launch on the MT's, and of course whether or not the car has enough torque to power through.

Prob will a few times LOL.

"It will last up until the point where it breaks." :bowrofl:

Thats the worst time for it to happen. But I think 11's NA is going to be really hard unless you do some crazyness to the motor.

As long as he gets that time slip with 11's on it, it's all good :tup: :roflpuke2:

I'm pretty sure he was on RE-11s and pulled a 1.89 60'? Drag radials on an NA car with minimal power won't get much better than that 60'.

You didn't have ART pipes on it before when you ran? Did you have standard TP's or HFC's?

If he could pull a 1.6 that would help :) ... I don't know how hard that is with RWD though... with the RE-11's, that's an excellent and sticky tire, so aside from going DR's I don't think you can do much better in that area IMO of course.

With the torque curve the way it is, dr's can slow the car down a lot of times due to bogging. More grip isn't always better.

Exactly:iagree:

That's probably been a big concern with your last couple cars, right?

: pokerface:

Add cams and it will be done.

Don't think we have any for the 370Z.

I have the berk cats on the car for the 12.42 run.

Z

Do you still have them? If so, I think you will be pleasantly surprised if you go with the ART pipes. They are just so cool. Mine settled down a lot in just a little over 300 miles. It sounds like the exhaust is modified if you get on it, but cruising and at idle... you hear nothing.

Any sort of weight reduction on the car at the time of the run Zeliminator?

Can't without vvel control.

anyone thought of the 4.5L GTM bore and stroke kit?

I'm sure people have... but when you can get the GTM SC kit for the same price, it doesn't seem like it's worth the hassle... but that's just me... if you wanted to stay NA that bad, then yeah, maybe.

Forgot about that.

true but with the stroker kit you'll have a strong built bottem end of the engine which in turn can result for more boost for FI

Yeah, it has it's benefits.

I think about it all the time, now if I ever will do it, that's a different story...

hey man... i'm curious with your set-up with the LTH's and the F.I. CBE what you dynoed?

I want to eventually go this route.. 4.5L then go TT kit. But when it's all said and done that's alot of dough spent in the end. I always compare price of car + $ spent for setup = what (whp or 1/4 ET). Thats just me though. Can it be done in a different platform for cheaper? Do I plan to keep the car til the wheels fall off? These are things I ask myself because when you mod then later decide to sell. You always end up losing out.


Back to the OP topic. I think it can "eventually" be done. More r&d, more parts, and lots of tuning along with track, weather etc etc. Sooner or later someone will fiberglass or carbon fiber alot of parts for some major weight reduction and finally hit it.

Same here, I also plan on doing the 4.5 bore and stroke kit with built heads w/ internals and all that, then get a gtm TT setup. It'll be a while before then though due to the cost of all this :rolleyes:

Speaking as a guy who has previously done a stroker kit on an FI motor, I don't know why you would. Internal engine work is expensive and a pain, and the gains are usually relatively small. You may get more durability, you may get less reliability--you don't really know. There aren't exactly a ton of cars running around with that kit, which doesn't provide me with a whole lot of comfort.

If the art pipes fit my stage2 Sc i will put them on before i put the SC on and see if they improve the 1/4 mile times

Z