Ice mode solution?

fritz

Guard dad, of 7/10/-2011 evaluated my post correctly, and added to it...thanks....especially re the Lotus bit.

To continue:
There was a time (when BMW tried to call ABS by its own designation "ALS")
At about that time ABS was strictly not for competition as it could not keep up.
The ABS pump in full flight should work madly and could outpace the then servo which on Audi and (maybe BMW) was all done for brakes and steering by a single pump, but on most cars was the usual servo set-up.

Just how much should a manufacturer do for you (us!) who wish to simulate emergency stops, one after the other, along with possible VDC use ? Why should the public (us too) pay for you or us to "go off-road" madly.

I'd guess it'd be OK for the car to do the job for two full blooded emergency stops, with VDC in between.

So folk should pay for more than that just to satisfy you (us!) madmen in an autocross/race ?

To race we all accept what's needed, from oil coolers to brake scoops and special fluids. We balance brakes by selecting the coeff of friction between front and rear pads: that's if we cannot get, or are not allowed, twin master cylinders!

I can hardly believe that ABS is compulsory in any competition event. "Allowed" maybe or "in operational condition" (to avoid folk junking the pieces). The exact terms of the regs need stating (here?)....and I'd be happy to interpret them (!) and hopefully find a solution within the regs.
Plainly one does not want or need ABS and VDC, and especially BA, interfering with driver inputs in any sporting event...and "ice mode" is just broody dangerous.

To quote ChriSSlicks "Setting the car up so that you don't really need ABS also helps" (He hasn't actually dumped it so it is still getting used).

And, for myself, I could do without BA on the road .... how can I dump that?

Fritz