The 370z or a Mustang SC.
 

At the track i just saw a new mustang with the SC go 10.8 @140.
he had a bolt on rear exhaust, new back rims and drag radials, flashed his ecu, and man did it go.
I asked my self why am i spending all this money on my 370. 11.8 or11.7 with the stage 2 gtm.
Now i have to worry about back axiles getting the tranny built 7 AT. oil coolers and host of other cooler's ( these drive line parts do not exsist yet)I saw the stillen SC run a 13.3 on the same night and he broke the drivers side back axil that night. It was a 370 z MT.
The new 5 litre stang with Ford after market Sc will make 650 hp. si ive been told. And the car looks sharp and it handles well on the road.
My 350z with the GTM 4.2 is only going to run 9's with the wolf 850 ttbb's
and ive got a small fortune invested in that car.
That mustang will eat the GTR for breakfast at the track. There was a modified GTR tha ran 11.2 @ 118 or 128 there the same night
Makes me wonder why i spent the $ on the 370.
I was a Ford man before i bought the 350 and the 370z.

Well if all you are looking for in a car is 1/4 mile times then im not sure why you bought the 370 over the mustang either

The 370 turns more heads, its a much classier car, not in the same class as a mustang by any means. These cars are excellent road racing machines, especially compared to a mustang, but if your looking for 1/4 performance at a budget cost, go by an AWD 93 turbo eclipse and run 10's on a few grand. Speed is speed, you'll never be the fastest, im happy running mid 13's or better and having the rarity and attention i get with the Z. There are literally thousands of supercharged mustangs out there...not many 370's though...its all in what your looking for..

If drag racing is your thing you're in the wrong car.

buy a honda civic can run 9.9sec

The GTR isn't made to run at the drag strip and neither is the 370z.


"go by an AWD 93 turbo eclipse and run 10's on a few grand."

So true. You can't beat the bang for the buck with a 90-94 GSX.

Dont get me wrong i love my 370 . i will be keeping the 350z for ever, i love that car.
going 11's in the 370 is my goal and its still a great daily driver. I agree it is way better looking than the stang.
I like the 350 better than the 370/ It feel more like a true sports car.
I can not wait till my 350 build gets finnished and i start to thrash the chey and ford camps at the track.
I have started to purchase nismo suspension parts for the 370 z and it will be a great handling Z with 450 rwhp, If GTM ever gets my SC to me.
Z

From the sounds of your first post, the nismo suspension won't help you at all in the 1/4 mile. If anything it will probably hurt your times.

:iagree:

Be realistic do you like to make your Z the quickest Z? Then enjoy that, don't compare the brute force of a tt V8. Not the same thing.

take it to a road corse type of track. you should do well there. maybe well enough for it to win your love back:tup:

yeah, a 400whp GSX is easy, replacing the glass tranmission is a whole different animal, I would know, been a DSM'er for many years.

oh, buy the Mustang. This is with bolt-ons/tune/suspension/weight reduction, FI is not required for 10's :tup:

an AMS GT-R will do 9's and the kit for it is 22,000 or something like that. Improves the GT-R so much it is faster than the Bugatti to 160mph. Like someone else said, throw a few twists and turns on the track and that mustang won't stand a chance. IMO mustangs are junk anyway. with a deep enough wallet you can make anything run 10's or better.

Nice opinion, but drive one before you make a baseless comment. Ford is ranked above Nissan in quality ( http://ezinearticles.com/?Car-Qualit...des&id=5019276 ) I've owned a 370Z and now the 5.0, a 10 second Z will cost you much much more than a 10 second Mustang. BTW, this 8 second 5.0 cost less than 15k in parts. A GT-R can stuff it.

Ok so ill give the mustang the straight line speed but seriously - you are comparing the build quality on an mustang to a Z? Where do you get off? Have you really spent time in your 5.0? The dash alone makes me think I fell asleep and woke up a few decades back. Dont mean to bash it but credit where credit is due - its a bitchin fast car but thats about it. The straight line speed will MORE than make up for the handling advantages of the Z in most tracks out there but you cant deny the driver "feel" of the car is lacking w/ the ford. This is the same reason miatas / porsches / some bimmers / Zcars / lotuses(? - is that how you pluralize lotus?) make wonderful drivers cars. Its how racey you feel driving it - come on - its not like most of us are setting any lap times anyway lol.

if you track the car, on a road racing course, you will feel the difference in handling. The mustang uses a live rear axle and this hinder's its ability for cornering. On top of that its a strut front suspension while the 370z is much better with double wishbones in the front and multilink in the rear.

I understand wanting to make a 370z into a 1/4 mile car....You just have to let go of the fact that it will never be the fastest..or that there will be something better or cheaper to make better. The battle is internal..its a neverending battle between you and your car, the car you choose as your weapon...embrace that.

+1. I have been preaching that for years about the Z's and G's.

did I once make a comment about interior quality? for one, BUILD quality and MATERIAL quality are two completely different things. My Z's interior was much better, i've conceded that in posts in other threads. However, as far as BUILD quality, Ford is directly competing with all the other japanese brands and BESTING Nissan. The OP wants a fast drag car, the 5.0 wins, without question. In stock form and modded (mods are less expensive as well). And lets not get into the handling debate, we all read that M3 article. The live rear axle complaint carries no weight anymore.

just in case you didnt:

2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend

Red, you didn't get the memo. it was only sent to Z fanboi's so you didn't get it.
MEMO:
If a car is faster than our Z's, but more expensive, mention how, with x amount of $, our z's would be faster.

If a car is faster and less expensive, mention how nice our interior is and talk about handling and build quality.
-Zfanboy Club
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i'm getting sick of hearing people **** talk the mustang. i don't want one particularly, but like, the 1/4mile is muscle car turf. Don't come onto their turf and lose, and talk about how your car has a better interior or has better blah blah blah it just makes you sound whiney. 1/4 mile racing is pretty simple in terms of determining the better car. the one with a lower time wins. it doesn't matter what your best time was at road atlanta or how many more lateral g's your car could pull on a skidpad.

the sooner you appreciate what other cars can do, the happier you will be with your own car. i dont really care if a mustang, or any other car has a better 1/4 mile time, because i don't drag race. the only reason i'd be pissed is if i wanted to build a 10 second car and started with a 370z, and then got my *** smoked by some kid with '03 cobra that he put 6 grand into.

I'd love to go for a ride and try driving in someone's 5.0, and if they hadn't tried a Z, i'd be glad to let them try mine. and i'm sure there'd be things each of us would like more about the other car than our own, but at the end of the day, if you are overall happier with your car, thats what matters.

Not really a Ford fan at all, but I must admit that they have really stepped up their game quite a bit with some of their cars here as of late, including the new 2011 Crustang. LOL

I have recently been asked to track drive the new 5.0 and was pleasantly surprised. Now granted, it is still not at the top of my list of cars in this class, but it is a lot better than previous years Crustangs. Hahaha

This is heading south! quickly .lol

Theres alot of Mustang hate on the site, hell, even I talked shyt about them for a time when I had my 370. The Z is an amazing car, I loved mine and hope to purchase another down the road when they step it up and put a powerplant under the hood with some low end grunt. 332hp is great, especially in a light car, however, 270 ft/lbs at 5500 just doesnt cut it for me. How many people drive their cars to redline daily? The Z in stock form definitely outhandles my 5.0, however, the brembo equipped Stang is a force to be reckoned with, with any Z in any trim. Now, I, as a car enthusiast, appreciate all cars for what they're worth. Is the Z a fine car for what it is? damn right it is, I loved every minute of driving mine. But is the power lacking in todays modern market? I think so. Would a TT or Supercharger be fast? yep, but how much boost can that VQ hold before it pops? the 5.0 engine has forged internals, crankshaft, rods.. only part that isnt is the pistons (although they have oil squirters that keep them cool). Right now people are running 10psi safely and making 600whp and 520+ ft/lbs on a stock block. The VQ makes great horsepower at a relatively low boost level, but the Torque is absolutely awful (which is a must for that hole shot if you plan on dragging).

As a reference, the 5.0 makes 320wtq (360btq) at 3k RPM's stock, now thats some tire shredding goodness.

:wtf2: ........hahahahaha

mustang faster

Z Insert all subjective thing here

the 5.0 handles well, it really does, I wish people would get out and drive one...it does NOT handle better than the Z, but its right damn there...and with the power advantage+ its new handling it will win allot against our Z's

The only reason there has been some Neg towards Mustangs? Is that it seems to be the recurring theme in here to compare it to the Z Some Mustang owners like to keep chiming in on how much better the Mustang is, Now I don't mind that, but it's getting old, and if some of the Mustang owners like to keep nit picking the Z? Then they should be were they belong The Mustang Forum. I'm a car enthusiast but come on.

I havent seen anyone make a post about how the Mustang is better. I've seen people comment on it being faster in a straight line, and the discussions have been civil for the most part. I like this forum because most of the members are unbiased and have intelligent views/opinions on alot of subjects that I like learning about. There is alot of nutswinging on the Mustang forums, lots of close mindedness, and they arent as active, so I tend not to frequent them. Another reason that Mustang guys post is because people here (the Z nutswinging crowd), make inaccurate comments about the cars we drive, and i've never been one to sit idly and allow that to happen. The Z is great, but other cars do exist.

Ugh, I hate these kinds of threads, but in the interests of discussion -

It's a fair comparison to make as they're both new sports cars, so you'd expect people to compare the Z and the Mustang, along with whatever other 'sports car' rolls down the line soon. I'm fond of both cars, honestly. I like where Ford is going, I think they've recovered well from their past mistakes, and to me the Mustang just looks badass again; it's been years since I've said that. I'm still not sold on their live axle suspension still, but hey, without a test drive I refuse to make any opinionated comments on it.

With that said, MY PERSONAL OPINION is that the OP is definitely in the wrong car if the Z is going to be a drag strip king. That's classic 'muscle car' territory. That...Nissan is not. To make it into a drag strip king, you'll need to invest the money. It was never the Nissan engineer's intentions to make it rule the drag strip, so the owner will take it upon themselves to mold the car to their wishes.

With that said, there is no reason to get butthurt over someone saying another car is better than the Z. This may be a Z-centric forum, but everybody here with a rational mind should realize the 370Z is far from a perfect car. Yes, we all know the positives of the car, so I won't list those. But just think of the issues we've had so far - oil coolers or lack thereof, high pitched whine, clunky clutch, not enough power, etc. It's NOT the best in the world. Yes it's good, but far from the best. Does that make me enjoy my car any less? No. If it did, I wouldn't have dumped this many parts onto it.

The fact is that most of us bought this car because in spite of its deficiencies, we still love driving this car. That in no way means the car is perfect. So buy it, drive it, and enjoy it. No car is perfect, and any opinions that 'this car is better than that' is completely subjective.


OP - curious, what made you switch from Ford to Nissan?

its all love here, i guarentee we accept the 5.0 more than they accpet the Z...either way once they crack the VVEL we are expected to hit 10"s

the issue with us hitting 10's is that theres a lot of other parts on the car that arent designed to handle the amount of horespower it would require for our car to be running 10's. modifying those adds to the cost.

^^ true, but i read somewhere, i dont remember if it was here, that the 370 is hold 700rwhp on stock internals pretty well...BTW if am wrong i have a flame retardant suite on already...

500hp safely

^^ ahh ok...

The fact that ones a V8 and the others a V6 means a lot more $$$ to make it put out what the bigger V8 can do with out a sweat.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm:

To the op, the z and also the gtr were never meant to be straight line wonders. That is what american cars are for. They are made to be good track cars that handle well and navigate corners superbly much like the s2000 or the rx8 or cayman. Besides lets be honest. Straight line racing is for people who dont know how to drive.

As for mustangs the new model with all updates and v8 is a pretty decent cars but lets be honest, older models before the new 5.0 were rubbish

Haha LOL ^^ You said it, not me!! LMAO :icon18: :rofl2:
(But I couldn't agree with you more)


I have never been fond of Mustangs, however I am objective and honest when evaluating a cars (any cars) performance. (its part of what I do for a living haha).
With that said I do like this new 5.0 stang more than I thought I would especially comparing it to previous years (junk). Is this car in the top of its class IMO, NO. But it is a step in the right direction, finally.

However for me at least It seems to be the stereotypical, ignorance-arrogance of a majority of Mustang owners (I call it the "Mustang mentality") and all the nostalgic and constant over-hype of the car for all these years that turns me off to them.

"safe" is a very relative term.

I'll be honest. I read these threads about 370Zs as drag cars because I'm curious. But I've always thought it a bit strange to take a car that puts HANDLING first and foremost and then turn it into a straight-line speedster. It's like buying a Land Rover (historically an offroad wonder) and making it a tractor pull truck. Wrong initial tool selection for the job.

A-Men .... Been preaching that for YEARS now. LOL

I wouldn't mind seeing a Z dominate the quarter mile track but it would take a real build. Bolt-ons and a superchargers are nice [extremely] but you're going to need to open that engine up and upgrade what you can. Build the engine from the block up for high boost and you'll kill the quarter and look good doing it.

If OP wants to punk the Mustangs I'm all for it. :) :)