VDC off???

cossie1600 · 08-31-2010, 12:00 PM

The car didn't do a lot of one leg burnout (maybe once or twice coming out of T1), but a LSD would help quite a bit coming down the fast corner. I think that is one mod that is definitely worth the money, much better than wasting money buying stupid things like slotted rotors/calipers etc.

I lapped over 5 or 6 seconds slower with the VDC on.

klubbheads · 09-02-2010, 01:48 PM

1. Nissans do have the secondary traction control.
2. It will NOT prevent you to do any kind of slide unless you touch the brake pedal during a slide.
3. Why would you apply brakes during a slide unless you know your about to eat sh!t?
4. 40-50 mph 360 degree circle drift was no issue with my G35 and taking some 90 degree turns with a slide it doesn't look like the Z has an issue with it as well.
5. You do NOT need to worry about the ABS fuze unless you are trying to do a complete standing burnout where you have to apply slight braking for the car not to move and just burn tires.
6. If people are complaining about any traction control kicking in with VDC off then you should not be doing any sliding because 99.99% you are touching the brake pedal one way or the other during the slide which is pretty dumb in any car.....

fuct · 09-02-2010, 02:40 PM

i actually think our VDC isnt half bad. coming from an IS300, the Z is leaps and bounds better.

cossie1600 · 09-02-2010, 03:24 PM

try a bmw porsche or even the one on my prius, the vdc on the z sucks

Q8y_drifter · 09-02-2010, 04:28 PM

Even the pro drivers use brakes during a drift.

klubbheads · 09-02-2010, 04:32 PM

^rly...?
Didn't know applying the brake pedal would be a benefit during a slide since it does apply the brakes to all 4 tires.......

I hope you are talking about the handbrake use and not the brake pedal..

BeauNC · 09-02-2010, 04:46 PM

There are ways of adjusting brake bias. I would guess drifters shift bias towards the front wheels to help make a tighter line.

Q8y_drifter · 09-02-2010, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeauNC

There are ways of adjusting brake bias. I would guess drifters shift bias towards the front wheels to help make a tighter line.

Yup! ^^

klubbheads · 09-02-2010, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeauNC

There are ways of adjusting brake bias. I would guess drifters shift bias towards the front wheels to help make a tighter line.

Right. but since we are having this conversation about a street car that is designed to make the car stop efficiently not to do small adjustments while drifting, i dont think anyone is going to use the brakes on the Z to make those adjustments. If you are hoping to make any adjustments with the brake pedal in the Z then get ready to say hi to the closest wall around.

BeauNC · 09-02-2010, 06:18 PM

Yeah, the average driver is going to stuff it into the nearest immovable object if they push the brakes while the rear is sliding. I think drifting is a stupid "sport" so I could care less what happens when the brake is pushed while sliding. As long as the computer controls will not interfere with me when I'm on the road race track I really don't care what they do, or don't, do.

If when VDC is off I can still late brake into a corner and initiate rotation, I'm fine with that. If computer controls screw up my line... then I'm getting an Evo X next. My last car was a base model 350Z with no VDC at all. I sold it due to school finances, I didn't wrap it around a tree, in case anybody is wondering.

klubbheads · 09-02-2010, 06:25 PM

Well having lots of experience with G35 now the Z which has the same VDC and traction control, i can guarantee you that it will not interfere (VDC off) when you are trying to brake late into a corner or exit with the opposite lock completely engaged at 75 mph......

BeauNC · 09-02-2010, 07:55 PM

Cool, then I'm still sold on a 370Z.

cossie1600 · 09-02-2010, 10:37 PM

Weird

Hope this doesn't happen to you Vin Diesel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jmac...ext=1&index=14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyO19...=16&playnext=2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrNAu...eature=related

klubbheads · 09-03-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Weird

Hope this doesn't happen to you Vin Diesel

YouTube - Drifting Crash

YouTube - Peter wdv BMW M3 drive drift crash

YouTube - BMW DRIFT ALMOST CRASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And what do those videos have to do with this thread???

cossie1600 · 09-03-2010, 11:58 AM

Just a friendly reminder of what can happen when you do stupid things or drive way over your head.

09-02-2010, 01:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
klubbheads Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 221 Drives: Very slow Nismo 370 Rep Power: 18	1. Nissans do have the secondary traction control. 2. It will NOT prevent you to do any kind of slide unless you touch the brake pedal during a slide. 3. Why would you apply brakes during a slide unless you know your about to eat sh!t? 4. 40-50 mph 360 degree circle drift was no issue with my G35 and taking some 90 degree turns with a slide it doesn't look like the Z has an issue with it as well. 5. You do NOT need to worry about the ABS fuze unless you are trying to do a complete standing burnout where you have to apply slight braking for the car not to move and just burn tires. 6. If people are complaining about any traction control kicking in with VDC off then you should not be doing any sliding because 99.99% you are touching the brake pedal one way or the other during the slide which is pretty dumb in any car..... __________________ g35driver OG.

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09-02-2010, 04:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
klubbheads Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 221 Drives: Very slow Nismo 370 Rep Power: 18	^rly...? Didn't know applying the brake pedal would be a benefit during a slide since it does apply the brakes to all 4 tires....... I hope you are talking about the handbrake use and not the brake pedal.. __________________ g35driver OG.

09-02-2010, 06:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
klubbheads Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 221 Drives: Very slow Nismo 370 Rep Power: 18	Well having lots of experience with G35 now the Z which has the same VDC and traction control, i can guarantee you that it will not interfere (VDC off) when you are trying to brake late into a corner or exit with the opposite lock completely engaged at 75 mph...... __________________ g35driver OG. Last edited by klubbheads; 09-02-2010 at 06:27 PM.

09-02-2010, 10:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	Weird Hope this doesn't happen to you Vin Diesel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jmac...ext=1&index=14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyO19...=16&playnext=2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrNAu...eature=related Last edited by cossie1600; 09-02-2010 at 10:52 PM.

08-31-2010, 12:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	The car didn't do a lot of one leg burnout (maybe once or twice coming out of T1), but a LSD would help quite a bit coming down the fast corner. I think that is one mod that is definitely worth the money, much better than wasting money buying stupid things like slotted rotors/calipers etc. I lapped over 5 or 6 seconds slower with the VDC on.

09-02-2010, 02:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 25	i actually think our VDC isnt half bad. coming from an IS300, the Z is leaps and bounds better.

09-02-2010, 03:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	try a bmw porsche or even the one on my prius, the vdc on the z sucks

09-02-2010, 04:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
BeauNC Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 21 Drives: Blazer Rep Power: 16	There are ways of adjusting brake bias. I would guess drifters shift bias towards the front wheels to help make a tighter line.

09-02-2010, 06:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
BeauNC Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 21 Drives: Blazer Rep Power: 16	Yeah, the average driver is going to stuff it into the nearest immovable object if they push the brakes while the rear is sliding. I think drifting is a stupid "sport" so I could care less what happens when the brake is pushed while sliding. As long as the computer controls will not interfere with me when I'm on the road race track I really don't care what they do, or don't, do. If when VDC is off I can still late brake into a corner and initiate rotation, I'm fine with that. If computer controls screw up my line... then I'm getting an Evo X next. My last car was a base model 350Z with no VDC at all. I sold it due to school finances, I didn't wrap it around a tree, in case anybody is wondering.

09-02-2010, 07:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
BeauNC Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 21 Drives: Blazer Rep Power: 16	Cool, then I'm still sold on a 370Z.

09-03-2010, 11:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	Just a friendly reminder of what can happen when you do stupid things or drive way over your head.