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Originally Posted by theDreamer C6 Grand sport - 54k Boss 302 - 40k GT500 - 49k That is just off the top of my head, can throw in some Lotus

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Old 04-07-2011, 10:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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C6 Grand sport - 54k
Boss 302 - 40k
GT500 - 49k

That is just off the top of my head, can throw in some Lotus or a couple other euro cars before I would even consider a M3 for any track purpose. Sorry, you want to go back 6-10 years for the M3 then yes it was probably a top 3 pick, not even close right now.
so, based on your judgement, not actual hard data like #'s, you really believe a GT500 can outperform the M3 in a roadcourse?

I do concur with the new 5.0 though, that thing is rather impressive.

lotus? power and handling. It seems as though your are pickin cars that have A. more power, or B. good handling

but not the COMBINATION of both. hence for the money, the M3 still is a top competitor in the top 5.

Add to that Daily driver duty status, and the margin between M3 taking a lead, and the competition gets even bigger. sure a C6 can do it all well, but have you ridden in one of those? cheap platsic interior is not comfortable.

so I ask again, is this your feelings, or do you have data? Driver and #'s are always going to be different. but if you a budget of less than 100K, and wanted a car that can do EVERYTHING you wanted. and not just do it, but do it better than most. would you still pick those cars you tried to mention?

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so, based on you judgement, not actual hard data like #'s, you really believe a GT500 can outperform the M3 in a roadcourse?

I do concur with the new 5.0 though, thast rather impressive. lotus? power and handling. It seems as thoug your are pickin cars that have A. more poer, or B. good handling

but not the COMBINATION of both. hence for the money, the M3 still is a top competitor in the top 5.

Add to that Daily driver duty status, and the margin between M3 taking a lead, and the competition gets even bigger. sure a C6 can do it all well, but have you ridden in one of those? cheap platsic interior is not comfortable.

so I ask again, is this your feelings, or do you have data?
Thank you for adding another to my list, the 5.0 Mustang: 2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend
The 5.0 is the slowest of the three, 5.0/Boss 302/GT500, all three which can take the M3 and be daily driven.

Lotus has power and handling so not just picking one or the other. Interior on GM is your opinion, you wanted a track ready car for the price. The C6 Grand sport fits that, if you want I can throw in the Z06 and just tear the M3 to shreds.

Honestly, the M3 is a great daily driver but is not a track ready car from the factory for the price you pay. Look at the numbers, the times of any of the cars listed, the M3 is not what it use to be.
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so, based on your judgement, not actual hard data like #'s, you really believe a GT500 can outperform the M3 in a roadcourse?

I do concur with the new 5.0 though, that thing is rather impressive.

lotus? power and handling. It seems as though your are pickin cars that have A. more power, or B. good handling

but not the COMBINATION of both. hence for the money, the M3 still is a top competitor in the top 5.

Add to that Daily driver duty status, and the margin between M3 taking a lead, and the competition gets even bigger. sure a C6 can do it all well, but have you ridden in one of those? cheap platsic interior is not comfortable.

so I ask again, is this your feelings, or do you have data? Driver and #'s are always going to be different. but if you a budget of less than 100K, and wanted a car that can do EVERYTHING you wanted. and not just do it, but do it better than most. would you still pick those cars you tried to mention?
Lightning lap times.

28 3:04.0 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 LL2 2/11
29 3:04.2 CADILLAC CTS-V COUPE LL3 2/11
30 3:04.5 LOTUS EXIGE S LL3 8/07
31 3:05.4 BMW M3 COUPE LL2 2/10
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28 3:04.0 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 LL2 2/11
29 3:04.2 CADILLAC CTS-V COUPE LL3 2/11
30 3:04.5 LOTUS EXIGE S LL3 8/07
31 3:05.4 BMW M3 COUPE LL2 2/10
there we go, some data. where is the 5.0 on that list BTW?

and yes, you did prove me wrong on the GT500
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there we go, some data. Where is the 5.0 on that list btw?

And yes, you did prove me wrong on the gt500
44 3:08.6 ford mustang gt 5.0
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interesting, because i was just reading how the 5.0 matched the M3.. so maybe we need to see some more lap times and get an "average"
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