370z vs 335i Coupe

cossie1600 · 04-06-2011, 09:07 PM

Sports cars are lighter and small. Since the Prius is smaller and lighter by 700lbs, Prius wins. End of bench race

b1adesofcha0s · 04-06-2011, 09:20 PM

The only real pure sports car is the Ariel Atom

Push370zzz · 04-06-2011, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

The only real pure sports car is the Ariel Atom

Blades has a point...that is a pretty damn pure sports car!! Are those road legal?

b1adesofcha0s · 04-06-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Push370zzz

Blades has a point...that is a pretty damn pure sports car!! Are those road legal?

I don't think so. At least not in the US.

b1adesofcha0s · 04-06-2011, 10:20 PM

From their website:

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The Ariel Atom 3 is a unique and limited hand-built, high performance motor vehicle. All new Ariel Atom 3s sold within the North American market are partially or fully assembled in the USA by TMI AutoTech, Inc. (‘TMI’). Ariel Atom 3s are built and sold by TMI AutoTech, Inc. for the purposes of off-road/competition use (i.e., organized or private track day; slalom; Solo 1 events, etc.). Ariel Atom 3s are not considered to be federalized, production vehicles and do not necessarily meet applicable FMVSS criteria. Therefore, Ariel Atom 3s are not available with 17-digit VIN or PIN numbers. Any potential registration and/or use of an Ariel Atom 3 on any public roadway by any owner/operator is solely an individual owner/operator decision & responsibility for which TMI AutoTech, Inc. assumes no liability or responsibility whatsoever.

Red__Zed · 04-07-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

From their website:

theDreamer · 04-07-2011, 08:29 AM

Yet we still see them show up at cars & coffee events and such.

Illegal....pssssh, who cares.

LostMarine · 04-07-2011, 10:02 AM

How do you guys think the 370 compares to a M3 on a road course? Im assuming with a nismo 370, a stock for stock drag race is pretty even.but sports cars are generally regarded for roadcourse , since, well, its what the roads are really like, with turns. And im a fan of drag racing. but to put a car down because it costs more than your car, and offers more than your car, is ridiculous.

have you been in one? im not trolling, it was the first thread that caught my attention, because of the title obviously. And then it turned into a whats a sports car battle. well, as NOT having an M3, i can tell you. For a purpose built car that can tackle any kind of racing right off the floor, its the best bang for the buck

theDreamer · 04-07-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LostMarine

How do you guys think the 370 compares to a M3 on a road course? have you been in one? im not trolling, it was the first thread that caught my attention, because of the title obviously. And then it turned into a whats a sports car battle. well, as NOT having an M3, i can tell you. For a purpose built car that can tackle any kind of racing right off the floor, its the best bang for the buck

No, the M3 is not the best bang for the buck, it is not even in the top 5 anymore.

LostMarine · 04-07-2011, 10:06 AM

so what is? and according to who?

theDreamer · 04-07-2011, 10:13 AM

C6 Grand sport - 54k
Boss 302 - 40k
GT500 - 49k

That is just off the top of my head, can throw in some Lotus or a couple other euro cars before I would even consider a M3 for any track purpose. Sorry, you want to go back 6-10 years for the M3 then yes it was probably a top 3 pick, not even close right now.

Red__Zed · 04-07-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

C6 Grand sport - 54k
Boss 302 - 40k
GT500 - 49k

That is just off the top of my head, can throw in some Lotus or a couple other euro cars before I would even consider a M3 for any track purpose. Sorry, you want to go back 6-10 years for the M3 then yes it was probably a top 3 pick, not even close right now.

LostMarine · 04-07-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

C6 Grand sport - 54k
Boss 302 - 40k
GT500 - 49k

That is just off the top of my head, can throw in some Lotus or a couple other euro cars before I would even consider a M3 for any track purpose. Sorry, you want to go back 6-10 years for the M3 then yes it was probably a top 3 pick, not even close right now.

so, based on your judgement, not actual hard data like #'s, you really believe a GT500 can outperform the M3 in a roadcourse?

I do concur with the new 5.0 though, that thing is rather impressive.

lotus? power and handling. It seems as though your are pickin cars that have A. more power, or B. good handling

but not the COMBINATION of both. hence for the money, the M3 still is a top competitor in the top 5.

Add to that Daily driver duty status, and the margin between M3 taking a lead, and the competition gets even bigger. sure a C6 can do it all well, but have you ridden in one of those? cheap platsic interior is not comfortable.

so I ask again, is this your feelings, or do you have data? Driver and #'s are always going to be different. but if you a budget of less than 100K, and wanted a car that can do EVERYTHING you wanted. and not just do it, but do it better than most. would you still pick those cars you tried to mention?

theDreamer · 04-07-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LostMarine

so, based on you judgement, not actual hard data like #'s, you really believe a GT500 can outperform the M3 in a roadcourse?

I do concur with the new 5.0 though, thast rather impressive. lotus? power and handling. It seems as thoug your are pickin cars that have A. more poer, or B. good handling

but not the COMBINATION of both. hence for the money, the M3 still is a top competitor in the top 5.

Add to that Daily driver duty status, and the margin between M3 taking a lead, and the competition gets even bigger. sure a C6 can do it all well, but have you ridden in one of those? cheap platsic interior is not comfortable.

so I ask again, is this your feelings, or do you have data?

Thank you for adding another to my list, the 5.0 Mustang: 2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend
The 5.0 is the slowest of the three, 5.0/Boss 302/GT500, all three which can take the M3 and be daily driven.

Lotus has power and handling so not just picking one or the other. Interior on GM is your opinion, you wanted a track ready car for the price. The C6 Grand sport fits that, if you want I can throw in the Z06 and just tear the M3 to shreds.

Honestly, the M3 is a great daily driver but is not a track ready car from the factory for the price you pay. Look at the numbers, the times of any of the cars listed, the M3 is not what it use to be.

Red__Zed · 04-07-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LostMarine

so, based on your judgement, not actual hard data like #'s, you really believe a GT500 can outperform the M3 in a roadcourse?

I do concur with the new 5.0 though, that thing is rather impressive.

lotus? power and handling. It seems as though your are pickin cars that have A. more power, or B. good handling

but not the COMBINATION of both. hence for the money, the M3 still is a top competitor in the top 5.

Add to that Daily driver duty status, and the margin between M3 taking a lead, and the competition gets even bigger. sure a C6 can do it all well, but have you ridden in one of those? cheap platsic interior is not comfortable.

so I ask again, is this your feelings, or do you have data? Driver and #'s are always going to be different. but if you a budget of less than 100K, and wanted a car that can do EVERYTHING you wanted. and not just do it, but do it better than most. would you still pick those cars you tried to mention?

Lightning lap times.

28 3:04.0 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 LL2 2/11
29 3:04.2 CADILLAC CTS-V COUPE LL3 2/11
30 3:04.5 LOTUS EXIGE S LL3 8/07
31 3:05.4 BMW M3 COUPE LL2 2/10

04-06-2011, 09:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 143	The only real pure sports car is the Ariel Atom __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

04-07-2011, 08:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4212	Yet we still see them show up at cars & coffee events and such. Illegal....pssssh, who cares. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

04-07-2011, 10:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
LostMarine Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: nj Posts: 61 Drives: RB4 335I Rep Power: 0	How do you guys think the 370 compares to a M3 on a road course? Im assuming with a nismo 370, a stock for stock drag race is pretty even.but sports cars are generally regarded for roadcourse , since, well, its what the roads are really like, with turns. And im a fan of drag racing. but to put a car down because it costs more than your car, and offers more than your car, is ridiculous. have you been in one? im not trolling, it was the first thread that caught my attention, because of the title obviously. And then it turned into a whats a sports car battle. well, as NOT having an M3, i can tell you. For a purpose built car that can tackle any kind of racing right off the floor, its the best bang for the buck Last edited by LostMarine; 04-07-2011 at 10:06 AM.

04-07-2011, 10:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4212	C6 Grand sport - 54k Boss 302 - 40k GT500 - 49k That is just off the top of my head, can throw in some Lotus or a couple other euro cars before I would even consider a M3 for any track purpose. Sorry, you want to go back 6-10 years for the M3 then yes it was probably a top 3 pick, not even close right now. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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