Post Your Track Setup!
 

Post you track setups and the effects on the car. Please make sure you tell us what kind of racing you do and your impressions. Examples of this include information about different alignment settings (camber, caster, toe, etc). Different tires, different tire sizes, etc. Suspension upgrades such as coilovers, swaybars, springs, etc. Aero components such as wings, splitters and diffusers. Ride height, spring rates, damper settings, etc. Brake pads, rotors, BBK, stainless lines, boosters, etc. The more info you include the more everyone can use to compare and make their own decisions. I know that this is partly subjective so it is important that you test stuff out well and that you are specific with your comments. Also try and keep changes to a single component at a time. If you have a combination of things, make sure you state that first. This thread can also be used to review track/performance related parts, for example brake pads, coilovers, and tires. The goal is to figure out what does what and how the car's behavior changes. Eventually, setting up your car will involve less trial and error, therefore maximizing the effectiveness of each change and minimizing wasted time and money. Pictures are always welcome.

I can't overstate how much help threads like this have been for the Miata guys. I copped a setup for my old '94 and I was amazed at the transformation of the car.

Cant wait to see some sweet setups!!

il post mine up once its complete...

SPC has alignment kits out for the serious race alignments.

We did an auto-x this weekend. I ran 40psi front and 34psi rear with the most success. I'm running 9k/7k custom springs. Hotchkis swaybars help reduce body roll especially in slalom.

Did you get to run an Auto-X with the stock sway bars for comparison?

The stock swaybars are honestly adequate in the front but way too soft in the rear. The car understeers like a pig from the factory.

I'm in stock class for this season so I can't change the rear bar, only the front one. I guess an alternative option would be to find and adjustable front bar that can go softer than stock.

I'm bringing this thread back from the dead now that we have all had the car for longer and a bunch of us have alignments.

My current setup:
-2.1 F Camber
-2.1 R Camber
0 toe front
.05 toe IN rear

So far, not so bad, not so great. Obviously steering is a little livelier, but it feels almost a little heavier than when I had more negative camber front. Thats also in part due to the toe in rear. The car feels pretty poised, but has lost a little composure since I raised the rear a bit. Looks like I'm going to have to take the WHOLE car down about 1/3 inch, if not 1/2.

Also I think next alignment, its going to be -2.5 front, -2.1 rear.

Hows everyone else doing?

-3.2 F Camber
-2.2 R Camber
0 Toe all the way around


http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...n/Stinji-1.jpg


Oh wait....you meant for the Z didn't ya????? ;)

hey, another miata guy! i'm on the miata forum too. and yes, threads like this are enormously helpfull. just copy a good setup instead of wasting time and money experimenting.

does anyone know what the stock alignment settings are?

i'm thinking about going to 18" wheels for track and keeping the 19's for street. any good, lightweight 18's on the market that will fit this car? i'm thinking about keeping the same width for the tires.

^^^ 18's are definately a good idea for track setup...they are usually lighter, stronger, and tires are cheaper!!!

I can set you up with a set of custom made Forgestar wheels for the track. Give me a call!

Scott

Hehe thats your STI? I know your car from NASIOC...or IWSTI I think. I thought that was EDO's car though...

Robi was supposed to come down to FL and tune my suspension...wonder if he is still coming...I think he already came and left.

Wait a minute... did Jon Drenas tune your car??

And my STI had very similar settings for the street / track ;)

Haha! Yeah that's me! I usually post on Nasioc at "Stinji"

I used to be sponsored by EDO but things changed...so now my shop sponsor is HB Speed and Jon tunes it...i'm much happier now ;)

From what I hear...Robi should be coming out your way pretty soon! Check the Evo M forums as they usually post up their trips there. If any of you get the opportunity to get their suspension tuned by Robispec...i HIGHLY recommend it!!! Robispec -- Defying physics...one car at a time ;)

lmao...I know Jon pretty well. Better than I'd like to sometimes.

Small world.

Yeah I would love to get tuned by Robi, but I've blown enough money as it is on alignments already. I was supposed to get a deal, but its still going to be $. I've heard great things though...maybe I'll reconsider.

coming to AWD motorsports the 16th -19th lets talk!

Robi remember that person that was asking for KW V3's for the 370z from you through Jon at HBSpeed that you seemed to completely blow off. That was me.

We need people who are racing to post alignments - trying to do this one at a time with one alignment every couple months is going to take forever. That's part of what the Miata guys have going for them - people who are trying different setups on the track in the same day.

Not to discourage - I would love to see some good setups posted here. And there's no better time than the present to start comparing notes. I just wish we had more people who had the capability to tweak hourly to really get this car nailed.

I posted mine in my journal....I like it right now, though its a little tailhappy.

funny you say that. i think the hotchkis front sway is MUCH to stiff, and my car has so much understeer its taken the fun out of driving it hard.

I had the same problem.

Get the SPC camber arms and set the front camber to between -2.0 and -2.5. The understeer will be completely eradicated.

What does this do to the longevity of your tires? Do you drive this car on the road with it set this way?

front tires are already showing slight uneven wear from dropping it ~1". while i dont mind cranking the camber, i think of it as sort of a band aide to the problem. even the rear bar set to the stiffest position, oversteer can only be achived by hard accelleration out of turns. :shakes head:

i mean, the car is STIFF. pulling into my driveway at an angle causes the rear inside tire to literally lift off the ground.

For me it increases the longevity of the tires. Even at -2.5 I am wearing more on the outside of my tires than I am on the inside.

I can achieve oversteer at any speed with the front camber adjusted. I certainly wouldn't increase camber to this extreme on a street driven only car or one that sees a lot of daily highway miles. However for right now highway puts little wear on my tires compared to the abuse they receive at auto-x.

For cars that see more street driving than track driving I think the Stillen sway bars are better. Hopefully the adjustable whiteline bars will be out soon as well, although I'm certain those will be pretty stiff as well.

I don't know the alignment specs of mine, but it is a normal street alignment.

With eibach springs, stillen sways and the square tire setup (275/35/18), the car is very neutral.

I'm sorry....but KW wasn't working with me on this chassis...at the time and as you can see that's now changed!

lets bring this thread back to life!
as other have previously stated, threads like this have been a great help in miata forums. :driving:

damn back from the dead, i didnt even have my 370 when this thread was started LMAO

:bowrofl:

Now let's just hope the real track junkies on here actually share with the rest of us.

I set my shocks to fast, and let it rip....

KW V3, off the shelf valving and spring rates. Separate damper settings for street and for track
Whiteline sway bars front and rear. Front bar full stiff, rear bar full soft
-3 front camber, -2 rear camber, .20 total toe out front, .25 total toe in rear, stock caster
Enkei PF01 wheels. 18x10.5 et28 front, 18x10.5 et15 rear
Nitto NT05 285/35/18 sqaure
car weighs 3275lbs full tank no spare tire.
stock sport package brakes, Hawk DTC 60 front pads, stock rear
stock sport pack VLSD, which will be soon replaced with a Cusco RS 1.5way clutch type LSD

car is my daily driver used for road course track days and time attacks

here is a some on track footage of the car in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqL8...e_gdata_player

Nice vid, I thought you were gonna lose it a few times lol, but nice control. Was that an RSX in front? He seemed to be doing pretty good.

^yes that was my friend Ken in one of the Sport Car Motion shop cars. the full specs of both my car and the RSX are in the youtube info below the video screen

Here is mine:
Stillen Gen 3 Intake, Ark DTS Exhaust, m7 Coilovers, Whiteline sway bars (front stiffest, rear softest), SPC front and rear camber arms (front -3.3, rear -2.1, 0 toe front, .25 rear), SPL rear traction arm, 34 row Setrab oil cooler, Stillen bumper, Seibon TS CF Hood, Seibon NSM CF Wing, 2Recaro Pole Position, schroth profi II 3" 6 point harness, custom R's tuning harness bar, Fly1motorsports Vents Fenders, Project Mu Club Racer front and rear pads, stock rotors with 20+ track days. Os Giken 1.5way LSD. 18x9.5 and 18x10.5" SSR Type F, and also stock 19's Rays. I normally run 285" square on both 18's or 19's.

track days and time attacks setup...
Here is a vid also (Clint I know bad angle shot:icon23: LOLLLL):

Not a 370, but close enough...BSP autocross car:

Motor:
Bolt-ons w/E85 (for 2013 season)

Drivetrain:
Cusco RS 1.5 at 80%
OS Giken Aluminum Single Clutch

Brakes:
Front Stoptech 332mm
Rear Brembo's with 2 piece rotors
Stainless lines

Exterior:
Custom SP legal Aero (splitter/air dam and rear spoiler)

Interior:
Sparco wheel with quick release
Recaro profi drivers seat
Smallest Kirkey aluminum pass seat
No radio/speakers, but retains ALL interior plastics, carpet, etc
AC has been deleted

Suspension:
Moton 2 ways w/custom rear valving
Hyperco springs at OEM spring locations (900-1000lb front and 750-900 rear depending on surface)
Hotchkis front bar and no rear sway bar w/spl endlinks
Poly bushings throughout
Modified stock front upper control arms with derlin offset bushings

Wheels/Tires:
CCW Classics 18x11 front and 18x12 rear
315 Hoosier A6's on all 4
ARP studs

Car weight: 2920lb without driver

Update on mine

Engine:
Stillen Gen3
Z1 modified plenum
Momentum DE Headers
Straight Pipes, 12" glasspacks
Z1 tune
342 rwhp

Suspension:
Tein Monoflex
Stillen Sway bars
-3 camber, 5 caster, -.01 toe front
-2.5 camber rear

Wheels/Tires/Brakes
Forgestar 18x10 + 34 with Nitto NT01 275/40
Widened 350Z track wheels, 18x9.5 +46 with Hoosier 295/40 R6
Stoptech 14" Trophy kit, Carbotech XP12s with Hoosiers, and Hawk Blue with Nittos

Other
Stillen bumper
APR GTC300 wing
Gutted interior
Rear cage
Sparco EVO 2 US seats
Racetech Harness
Sparco steering wheel
Quaife LSD
GTM Diff cooler

Revive lol, total noob here im trying to setup my car for track and this thread is super helpful. Question for you guys noticing many of these setups dont have customs arms like toe, traction, camber upper etc just stock arms. Been watching alot of hot version vids 😁😁😁 and noticing same, just good coilovers and thats it, can someone chime in or explain is it not necessary? May ive been around drift world to long hahahaha.

You need to learn how the car behaves before buying all these suspension mods. Oil cooler, upgrade all fluids, brake pads and keep your fuel tank topped off or buy a cjm rrp.