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justin_boy 01-24-2022 06:49 PM

best oil for track
 
hey guys

so i run 5w30 right now but when it gets hot it ticks. for sure i need thicker oil

what do you guys run

whats the best to go with

price doesnt matter

Spooler 01-24-2022 09:40 PM

Hotrodz uses Enos oil

justin_boy 01-24-2022 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4018806)
Hotrodz uses Enos oil

Sorry I meant to say what weight

Spooler 01-24-2022 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 4018807)
Sorry I meant to say what weight

I am not sure what weight he uses. You can use 0-40w with no issues.

BGTV8 01-25-2022 12:58 AM

Motul 0w30 or 5w40 in Aussie winter and 15w50 in summer (ambient above 30 degC) but it is not cheap

Corsairprime 01-25-2022 07:52 AM

Are you using an additional Oil Cooler radiator? I run 5w30 with an Oil Cooler in the loop. This helps my temps stay down on a track day.

Elmo370z 01-26-2022 01:00 PM

Motul 5w-40 sports ester or 5w-50

OptionZero 01-26-2022 04:10 PM

do you have a vented hood?

Spooler 01-26-2022 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4018883)
Motul 5w-40 sports ester or 5w-50

I run 5w50 Amsoil Signature Series.

justin_boy 01-27-2022 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4018893)
do you have a vented hood?

i have a varis replica on the way. the amuse front really helped with cooling weirdly

justin_boy 01-27-2022 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4018902)
I run 5w50 Amsoil Signature Series.

sweet. i ordered motul 300v 5w40. i ordered 8 liters to drain the cooler too and just do it right for peace of mind

justin_boy 01-27-2022 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Corsairprime (Post 4018817)
Are you using an additional Oil Cooler radiator? I run 5w30 with an Oil Cooler in the loop. This helps my temps stay down on a track day.

yes i run a 34 row but if you like doing full sessions it gets hot

Corsairprime 01-27-2022 02:08 PM

Vented Hood
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4018893)
do you have a vented hood?

Yes, I do have a vented hood.

OptionZero 01-27-2022 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Corsairprime (Post 4018934)
Yes, I do have a vented hood.

i was asking Justin
didn't see it on his mod list unless i overlooked

and all reports are the vents help

justin_boy 01-27-2022 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4018937)
i was asking Justin
didn't see it on his mod list unless i overlooked

and all reports are the vents help

haha i forgot to add it to the on order list. but its coming in a week or two! ill report back to let you know how much it helps

fairladyATX 01-28-2022 06:13 PM

Redline 5w30 + vented hood + 25 row Z1 oil cooler. No issues so far. Knock on wood.

DarkJak 01-28-2022 07:23 PM

What type of ticking are you hearing and what are your temps?

Rusty 01-29-2022 07:04 PM

I use euro blend 0w-40 dino piss. :tup:



Mobil 1.

justin_boy 01-31-2022 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 4019007)
What type of ticking are you hearing and what are your temps?

temps arent that high actually 220-240. i always hear it after a hard session and pretty much all the time. guys from z1 said the vvel system is usually very noisy but it wouldnt hurt to upgrade oil

justin_boy 01-31-2022 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4019069)
I use euro blend 0w-40 dino piss. :tup:



Mobil 1.

haha

OptionZero 01-31-2022 10:56 PM

https://cj-motorsports.com/products/...-oil-pan-hrvhr

CJM baffled oil pan adds half qt of capacity and has heat sinks on the bottom, on top of the baffles.

Probably would help with oil temps

Elmo370z 02-01-2022 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 4019200)
temps arent that high actually 220-240. i always hear it after a hard session and pretty much all the time. guys from z1 said the vvel system is usually very noisy but it wouldnt hurt to upgrade oil

220-240. You ain’t running the car hard. Me and ssfirehawk run between 260-280 no issues. 2 straight track days in 95 degree heat with 80-90% humidity.

justin_boy 02-01-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4019246)
220-240. You ain’t running the car hard. Me and ssfirehawk run between 260-280 no issues. 2 straight track days in 95 degree heat with 80-90% humidity.

haha i mean okay? i def am running the car hard, probably just have more cooling than you?

justin_boy 02-01-2022 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4019216)
https://cj-motorsports.com/products/...-oil-pan-hrvhr

CJM baffled oil pan adds half qt of capacity and has heat sinks on the bottom, on top of the baffles.

Probably would help with oil temps

i think this is definitely going to help. well see how it does with the 5w40 and vented hood

Elmo370z 02-02-2022 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 4019256)
haha i mean okay? i def am running the car hard, probably just have more cooling than you?

Our front end is ducted with a 72 row oil
Cooler. Not trying to bash you. Running 220-240. What is your set up.

justin_boy 02-02-2022 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4019297)
Our front end is ducted with a 72 row oil
Cooler. Not trying to bash you. Running 220-240. What is your set up.

my apologies..i took it wrong. cooling wise for the motor just a csf radiator and a 34 row cooler. in 90 degree weather, after 10 minutes im easily at 260.. and ill usually pit right there. these last couple days in the winter were in the 40's so even getting up to temp was rough. those were the days it would run about 220-240 ish

to be fair i changed the front bumper in between summer and winter so idk if that contributed to the lower temps

also seb put a failsafe in my tune at 270 cause he said i shouldnt run it hotter than 260

btw heres the build if youre interested :)

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...70z-build.html

OptionZero 02-02-2022 05:28 PM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the hood is gonna make a big difference

for example, the trackspec users report drops of 10-15 deg on the street and 20 deg on the track

thread:
http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...ckspec-11.html

justin_boy 02-03-2022 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4019326)
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the hood is gonna make a big difference

for example, the trackspec users report drops of 10-15 deg on the street and 20 deg on the track

thread:
http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...ckspec-11.html

Nice, I can’t wait to see how it turns out. I’ll be going to streets of willow in early April, I’ll let you know how it goes! That’s substantial

Hotrodz 02-03-2022 08:42 AM

Yep, open up the hood and let the heat out. Also, some have relocated their oil cooler so that it is getting more direct air flow. If your water temps are staying cool, as stated above you are good even at 285. The motor will pull some timing and performance will be down, but you aren't in harms way. Just make sure you change your oil before the next event.

Elmo370z 02-03-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 4019324)
my apologies..i took it wrong. cooling wise for the motor just a csf radiator and a 34 row cooler. in 90 degree weather, after 10 minutes im easily at 260.. and ill usually pit right there. these last couple days in the winter were in the 40's so even getting up to temp was rough. those were the days it would run about 220-240 ish

to be fair i changed the front bumper in between summer and winter so idk if that contributed to the lower temps

also seb put a failsafe in my tune at 270 cause he said i shouldnt run it hotter than 260

btw heres the build if youre interested :)

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...70z-build.html

Ahhh now it makes sense. The car usually holds at 280 when redlining 7,800 every gear and downshifting very aggressively. Usually when shifting at 7,200 and not downshifting and late breaking temps usually stay at 260. I’ll check your build out.

justin_boy 02-04-2022 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 4019359)
Yep, open up the hood and let the heat out. Also, some have relocated their oil cooler so that it is getting more direct air flow. If your water temps are staying cool, as stated above you are good even at 285. The motor will pull some timing and performance will be down, but you aren't in harms way. Just make sure you change your oil before the next event.

got it! good to know. I have to be more conscious about putting the hood up between sessions. usually the cars no more fun after 270 ish

justin_boy 02-04-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4019384)
Ahhh now it makes sense. The car usually holds at 280 when redlining 7,800 every gear and downshifting very aggressively. Usually when shifting at 7,200 and not downshifting and late breaking temps usually stay at 260. I’ll check your build out.

haha yeah thatll do it. ill usually pit around 265 ish as i can feel the car get sluggish

Hotrodz 02-04-2022 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 4019481)
got it! good to know. I have to be more conscious about putting the hood up between sessions. usually the cars no more fun after 270 ish

Agreed! Get them hood vents installed and do a cool down lap or two. With the hood vents, I saw my temps fall immediately doing a cool down lap. Also, when you get back to the paddock, leave the car running and left the hood for 5 minutes or so.

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justin_boy 02-06-2022 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 4019485)
Agreed! Get them hood vents installed and do a cool down lap or two. With the hood vents, I saw my temps fall immediately doing a cool down lap. Also, when you get back to the paddock, leave the car running and left the hood for 5 minutes or so.

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Yes the cool down lap for sure helps , also I leave it running til temps cool down a little

nasm 02-07-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by justin_boy (Post 4018790)
hey guys

so i run 5w30 right now but when it gets hot it ticks. for sure i need thicker oil

what do you guys run

whats the best to go with

price doesnt matter

I highly recommend Mutol v300 5w40, I use it for 2-3 track days and then I change it.

Good luck with your choice.
:hello:

Tedmeister 02-13-2022 07:47 AM

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I use the LiquiMoly MolyGen 5-40. But my temps are really low.
Had a full track day at Sebring in January with ambient temps in the low 80's
and my max oil temp was 190. Cooling is dependent on the ability of the
air to flow through the cooler, so space behind the cooler is critical.
I only have the factory water temp gauge, so I don't know what the temps
are, but they are in the low mid range. There is only the small power steering
fluid cooler in front of the radiator and the air is forced through the radiator with ducting. It is angled forward so there good room for air to come through the radiator and exit through the vented hood. The oil cooler is where the windshield washer fluid reservoir was and there is ducting to force the air into
the cooler, plus lots of space to exit into the wheel well. I need to install some
protection for it from debris coming off the tire. There are also secondary openings in the bumper that allow air to enter and flow through the engine bay and help dissipate the hot air.

2011 Nismo#91 02-14-2022 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tedmeister (Post 4019928)
Cooling is dependent on the ability of the
air to flow through the cooler, so space behind the cooler is critical.

This, good cooler positioning and ducting make a major difference, and a splitter too can help a lot. The stock radiator opening in general sucks for air flow, stacking coolers in front of the radiator doesn't work for prolonged periods of high power.

justin_boy 02-15-2022 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedmeister (Post 4019928)
I use the LiquiMoly MolyGen 5-40. But my temps are really low.
Had a full track day at Sebring in January with ambient temps in the low 80's
and my max oil temp was 190. Cooling is dependent on the ability of the
air to flow through the cooler, so space behind the cooler is critical.
I only have the factory water temp gauge, so I don't know what the temps
are, but they are in the low mid range. There is only the small power steering
fluid cooler in front of the radiator and the air is forced through the radiator with ducting. It is angled forward so there good room for air to come through the radiator and exit through the vented hood. The oil cooler is where the windshield washer fluid reservoir was and there is ducting to force the air into
the cooler, plus lots of space to exit into the wheel well. I need to install some
protection for it from debris coming off the tire. There are also secondary openings in the bumper that allow air to enter and flow through the engine bay and help dissipate the hot air.

beautiful set up. the amuse front bumper really opened up the mouth and now there is direct airflow to the oil cooler,ps cooler and radiator. temps are in control. my motive in running thicker oil was more protection of motor rather than temps. i have a varis replica hood coming that should open up the airflow even more and let the motor cool faster. i also bought motul 300v 5w40 so i think im set. ill report back in a few weeks.

Elmo370z 04-25-2022 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedmeister (Post 4019928)
I use the LiquiMoly MolyGen 5-40. But my temps are really low.
Had a full track day at Sebring in January with ambient temps in the low 80's
and my max oil temp was 190. Cooling is dependent on the ability of the
air to flow through the cooler, so space behind the cooler is critical.
I only have the factory water temp gauge, so I don't know what the temps
are, but they are in the low mid range. There is only the small power steering
fluid cooler in front of the radiator and the air is forced through the radiator with ducting. It is angled forward so there good room for air to come through the radiator and exit through the vented hood. The oil cooler is where the windshield washer fluid reservoir was and there is ducting to force the air into
the cooler, plus lots of space to exit into the wheel well. I need to install some
protection for it from debris coming off the tire. There are also secondary openings in the bumper that allow air to enter and flow through the engine bay and help dissipate the hot air.

It was nice meeting you at Sebring.

Tedmeister 04-26-2022 03:59 AM

It was nice to meet you and firehawk. Good luck in your event with your new turbo build. Are you running the MK60 abs system? Who did your install for that system?


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