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adamste 03-19-2019 03:46 PM

Wheels / Tires for Track Time
 
I'm looking for a new set of wheels and tires for my 2018 Nismo Tech to use strictly for track days. Has anyone or does anyone know if I could drop to 18" wheels which seems to have more cost effective options than the 19" wheels and tires?

AlWakRa 03-19-2019 04:42 PM

Many of us using 18 inch wheels, I have 18x10.5 square, even though I have a sport touring, it has the same Akebono calipers.

CRiZO 03-19-2019 04:58 PM

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Most any track oriented (lightweight) wheel from a reputable brand will fit.

If you want something affordable, check out the Konig Hypergram. Can get 18x10.5 and looks really good with meaty tires. I bet the red would look dope on a white Nismo.

Hotrodz 03-19-2019 05:49 PM

You just got to decide what your budget for wheels are and then pick reputable company. I have two sets of 18s...Enkei nt03 10.5 +30 square. I run a 15mm spacer on the rear. My other set are Volk te sl 11 +18 square. Both these setups allow me to rotate tires as I need without having to dismount and mount the tires on a different wheel. My car is a 2010 Nismo and I am lowered on Fortune Auto 500 coilovers. They fit with no rubbing issues.

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Brendan 03-19-2019 07:44 PM

There is a thread all about 18's on the 370z in the wheel section.

I would give it a read for some ace examples of what 18's look like on these cars and some of the set-ups people go with.

adamste 03-20-2019 01:02 PM

Great information. Thank you!

osbornsm 03-20-2019 03:24 PM

Allow me to sum up:

Buy the OEM 18" wheels for track duty.
- They clear the Akebono brakes.
- Pay no more than $300 + shipping for used OEM 18's.

Put 245 on the front and 275 on the rear with as much stickyness as you'd like.

Proceed to drive as if on fire. :roflpuke2:

:iagree:

adamste 03-25-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3835410)
You just got to decide what your budget for wheels are and then pick reputable company. I have two sets of 18s...Enkei nt03 10.5 +30 square. I run a 15mm spacer on the rear. My other set are Volk te sl 11 +18 square. Both these setups allow me to rotate tires as I need without having to dismount and mount the tires on a different wheel. My car is a 2010 Nismo and I am lowered on Fortune Auto 500 coilovers. They fit with no rubbing issues.

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Did you modify your front fender for 10.5s? A vendor I contacted said they would not recommend a wheel wider than 9.5 on the stock fender and height.

Spooler 03-25-2019 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by adamste (Post 3837239)
Did you modify your front fender for 10.5s? A vendor I contacted said they would not recommend a wheel wider than 9.5 on the stock fender and height.

I run 19x10's lowered with no issues and 285/35/19 tires on the front. Find another vendor. Their knowledge is lacking.

RN SHARK 03-26-2019 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by adamste (Post 3837239)
Did you modify your front fender for 10.5s? A vendor I contacted said they would not recommend a wheel wider than 9.5 on the stock fender and height.

I run the same wheel/spacer set up as Hotrodz, the nt03 18x10.5 +30 square with the rear spacers. Lowered on Swifts only. No fender modifications needed. Camber is -3.3 front and -2.6 rear.

cossie1600 03-26-2019 03:06 AM

I have 2 set of TSW Nurburgring with tires on it. They are 18x9.5 and 18x10.5. Interested?

AlWakRa 03-26-2019 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by adamste (Post 3837239)
Did you modify your front fender for 10.5s? A vendor I contacted said they would not recommend a wheel wider than 9.5 on the stock fender and height.

I ran 10.5 +18 on stock suspension with -2.5 camber front and 275/40/18 with no issues, the same I am running now lowered with -2.65 camber, rarely rub. I didn't do fender roll or modified anything. I will go with 285/30/18 (lets say it is 295 or 305 as bfg run wider) now and I am planning on going with -3.5 front camber, and I don't think it will be an issue as I was at that camber when I took my car for the alignment.

2011 Nismo#91 03-26-2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by adamste (Post 3835387)
I'm looking for a new set of wheels and tires for my 2018 Nismo Tech to use strictly for track days. Has anyone or does anyone know if I could drop to 18" wheels which seems to have more cost effective options than the 19" wheels and tires?

The OEM Nismo wheels are strong and light, Forged Rays. 18" is a good option for a track only setup and a number of people do that. Just stay away from cast wheels, they tend to crack, unlike forged wheels which tend the just bend, fixable. Enkie track wheels are well proven and the lowest price generally.

Hotrodz 03-26-2019 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by adamste (Post 3837239)
Did you modify your front fender for 10.5s? A vendor I contacted said they would not recommend a wheel wider than 9.5 on the stock fender and height.

I haven't had to do anything to the fenders everything clears easily. You just need to get the appropriate off sets and you will be good to go.

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///maestro 04-03-2019 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3837340)
I ran 10.5 +18 on stock suspension with -2.5 camber front and 275/40/18 with no issues, the same I am running now lowered with -2.65 camber, rarely rub. I didn't do fender roll or modified anything. I will go with 285/30/18 (lets say it is 295 or 305 as bfg run wider) now and I am planning on going with -3.5 front camber, and I don't think it will be an issue as I was at that camber when I took my car for the alignment.

got any pics?

I just picked up some 18x10s all around. Going a little beefier with 275/40/18 tires.

OptionZero 04-03-2019 01:16 PM

I'm a big fan of the Enkei NT03+M. Comes in 18x10.5 +30

Their newer "RR" line also has all sorts of sizes, but are a bit pricey compared to the prior line

Also, dig for used TE37's or Ce28n's if you can. Can't get better than that

AlWakRa 04-03-2019 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ///maestro (Post 3839843)
got any pics?

I just picked up some 18x10s all around. Going a little beefier with 275/40/18 tires.


http://www.the370z.com/attachments/w...4441-01-01.jpg

///maestro 04-03-2019 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3839886)

thats 18x10.5 with et 18 all around???

AlWakRa 04-03-2019 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ///maestro (Post 3839895)
thats 18x10.5 with et 18 all around???

Yes, with 10mm rear spacers, -2.7 front camber -2.0 rear camber

NLZN 04-03-2019 04:58 PM

I have a lot of track and autox on these.
Konig Ultraform, 18x10.5 +25, 20mm spacer in the rear to flush. Currently on 285 re71

https://i.imgur.com/n2ptGTN.jpg

Brendan 04-03-2019 05:29 PM

I wish we had more options in 275/40

///maestro 04-03-2019 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3839898)
Yes, with 10mm rear spacers, -2.7 front camber -2.0 rear camber

That's absolutely crazy. Here's Thomas' car with those same specs and -3.1 camber.

http://i65.tinypic.com/25guu5z.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/fp1kox.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/2yughfp.jpg

I was seriously considering buying these wheels but opted not to due to how far they poke. I didn't want to destroy my front fenders. So it's crazy to see your car with these same specs and have them fit way more flush with less camber.

OptionZero 04-03-2019 10:30 PM

That doesn't sound right to me

the red Z . . . that front spec of 18x10.5 +18 should not stick out that much
unless its just some wierd photography, that looks like it sticks out more than my fronts (20x11 +15)

Are we sure "Thomas" doesn't have spacers?

Brendan 04-03-2019 10:44 PM

you're even running the same tires in the pic. crazy.

///maestro 04-03-2019 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3839988)
That doesn't sound right to me

the red Z . . . that front spec of 18x10.5 +18 should not stick out that much
unless its just some wierd photography, that looks like it sticks out more than my fronts (20x11 +15)

Are we sure "Thomas" doesn't have spacers?

Well he’s got really meaty tires. I mean unless he lied to me and told me incorrect information (not sure why he would do that). More pics on his Instagram @timeattack370

AlWakRa 04-04-2019 05:37 AM

About Thomas car, in the last photo, it doesn't look like he has any negative camber, very minimal, his wheels are nt03rr which comes in 18×10.5+15 or 18×11+15, if the later, it will be farther out by nearly 10mm than mine, but I think his wheels are 10.5

With my car and my camber, it is very flush, I think it rubbed the fender twice at the track.

Now, I am sitting at -3.25 front, but changed my tires, I can get a photo with my other wheels, 19×9.5+22 275/35/19 which should be the same height and about 5mm inside (the wheels would be around 17mm inside) compared to my 18 wheels.

///maestro 04-04-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3840052)
About Thomas car, in the last photo, it doesn't look like he has any negative camber, very minimal, his wheels are nt03rr which comes in 18×10.5+15 or 18×11+15, if the later, it will be farther out by nearly 10mm than mine, but I think his wheels are 10.5

With my car and my camber, it is very flush, I think it rubbed the fender twice at the track.

Now, I am sitting at -3.25 front, but changed my tires, I can get a photo with my other wheels, 19×9.5+22 275/35/19 which should be the same height and about 5mm inside (the wheels would be around 17mm inside) compared to my 18 wheels.

His wheels aren't NT03rr...they are Konig Dekagram's which come in 18x10.5 +18. And I agree, his wheels look like they do not have -3 camber. Because of these pictures, I opted out to NOT get these wheels, I ended up getting Konig Ampliforms 18x10 +20 all around.

MagneticZ 04-08-2019 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NLZN (Post 3839902)
I have a lot of track and autox on these.
Konig Ultraform, 18x10.5 +25, 20mm spacer in the rear to flush. Currently on 285 re71

https://i.imgur.com/n2ptGTN.jpg

Looks great. Did you have to run hubcentric rings with the ultraforms or install extended lugs?

I just ordered some 19" ultraforms in grey, although I'm kind of wishing I'd went with the gold after seeing your setup.

Thanks

Jmatchley86 04-24-2019 08:11 PM

Seeing alot of people saying they run a 10.5 in the front with no issues. I just went wider to this size in the front with a +15 offset (10.5 +15) and now i'm rubbing like crazy with a 275/40/18.

Its not in a turn but when I go over any halfway decent sized bump. I think its hitting the tab that holds the bumper in the wheel well. I already rolled the fenders and am only lowered on swift springs. Any advise here?

I ordered a quick release so I can remove the tab and am about to order some 35 aspect ratio tires. But if someone has words of wisdom i'm all ears.

Brendan 04-24-2019 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmatchley86 (Post 3846353)
Seeing alot of people saying they run a 10.5 in the front with no issues. I just went wider to this size in the front with a +15 offset (10.5 +15) and now i'm rubbing like crazy with a 275/40/18.

Its not in a turn but when I go over any halfway decent sized bump. I think its hitting the tab that holds the bumper in the wheel well. I already rolled the fenders and am only lowered on swift springs. Any advise here?

I ordered a quick release so I can remove the tab and am about to order some 35 aspect ratio tires. But if someone has words of wisdom i'm all ears.

at +15 you're going to have issues. You want to be around +21 to +30 if you want run 10.5 with moderate camber

Jmatchley86 04-25-2019 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brendan (Post 3846435)
at +15 you're going to have issues. You want to be around +21 to +30 if you want run 10.5 with moderate camber

Well thats just super... lol. Hopefully removing the bumper tab will solve my issue or doing a combination of that and 35 aspect ratio vs 40. I really don't want to spend the money (now) on a set of coil overs or konis to control the dampen rate.

NorthStyle 04-25-2019 08:11 AM

You could just buy camber arms

///maestro 04-25-2019 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmatchley86 (Post 3846353)
Seeing alot of people saying they run a 10.5 in the front with no issues. I just went wider to this size in the front with a +15 offset (10.5 +15) and now i'm rubbing like crazy with a 275/40/18.

Its not in a turn but when I go over any halfway decent sized bump. I think its hitting the tab that holds the bumper in the wheel well. I already rolled the fenders and am only lowered on swift springs. Any advise here?

I ordered a quick release so I can remove the tab and am about to order some 35 aspect ratio tires. But if someone has words of wisdom i'm all ears.

I'm running a 10 wide up front with +18 offset. Fitment is absolutely spot on with -2 camber. What is your camber setup up front?

AlWakRa 04-25-2019 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmatchley86 (Post 3846353)
Seeing alot of people saying they run a 10.5 in the front with no issues. I just went wider to this size in the front with a +15 offset (10.5 +15) and now i'm rubbing like crazy with a 275/40/18.

Its not in a turn but when I go over any halfway decent sized bump. I think its hitting the tab that holds the bumper in the wheel well. I already rolled the fenders and am only lowered on swift springs. Any advise here?

I ordered a quick release so I can remove the tab and am about to order some 35 aspect ratio tires. But if someone has words of wisdom i'm all ears.


You would need to get more camber in front, on stock height there is no issues, but lowered you will need -3, -2.5 if fender rolled. I am lowered and don't have any issues with -2.7 front camber and around an inch gap between tire and fender.

Hotrodz 04-25-2019 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3846561)
You would need to get more camber in front, on stock height there is no issues, but lowered you will need -3, -2.5 if fender rolled. I am lowered and don't have any issues with -2.7 front camber and around an inch gap between tire and fender.

With SPL FUCA I am able to get -3.2 and I am lowered an inch. I have no issues running 18x10.5 +30 or +15 and 275 35 tires. I also run a 18x11 +18 with a 315 30 tire and no problems so far.

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AlWakRa 04-25-2019 03:02 PM

Now I am on -3.2 with 285/30/18, not a tall tire so no issues, I used it with 275/40/18 and -2.7 without issues, there was a little rub when I turn too hard at track, happened twice only. With 275/35/18 there shouldn't be any problem at all even without any negative camber.

Jmatchley86 04-25-2019 08:21 PM

thanks for all of the info. I'm not sure what my camber is honestly. don't remember where the sheet is but I can get it done this weekend and adjust it to what yall are saying.

cossie1600 04-26-2019 11:41 AM

275 35 18 is definitely fine, 285 35 18 works too

Heck I ran 295 35 19 and that rubbed

Jmatchley86 04-28-2019 06:55 PM

Fixed the issue! The rubbing was on the tab where the bumper was mounted just underneath the head light. I used a quick release (push style vs band) and removed the tab.

Rubbing is completely gone and i didn't need to mess with camber or go to a different aspect ratio on tires. So you can use a +15 10.5 wheel if you want to do quite a few other things.

adamste 07-11-2019 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3837253)
I run 19x10's lowered with no issues and 285/35/19 tires on the front. Find another vendor. Their knowledge is lacking.

Which 19x 10 wheels do you have and what is the offset?


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