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DLSTR 08-30-2022 02:17 PM

Not sensing a great future in F1 for Mick now.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/sc...ason/10360493/

Schumacher to cut Ferrari ties at end of 2022 F1 season
Mick Schumacher's relationship with Ferrari is to conclude in December, meaning that the German will be a free agent as he searches for a 2023 Formula 1 drive.

Adam Cooper
By:
Adam Cooper
Aug 30, 2022, 12:45 PM
Schumacher to cut Ferrari ties at end of 2022 F1 season

Schumacher's original Ferrari Driver Academy contract will come to what one source called a 'natural end' after this season.

Although there has been no confirmation from Haas, it's accepted in the paddock that Schumacher won't be retained by the US-owned team for a third season in 2023, with Antonio Giovinazzi currently a favourite to land the seat alongside Kevin Magnussen.

The remaining open drives on the grid include Alpine and Williams, with Schumacher's close friend Esteban Ocon backing him as a candidate for the former.

He has also been associated with an AlphaTauri seat, although Colton Herta has now emerged as a more likely candidate should a vacancy arise.

There is a possibility that Schumacher could lose out in the driver market shuffle in the coming days, potentially leaving Germany with no representative on the 2023 grid, unless Nico Hulkenberg is chosen by Alpine.

Schumacher first became associated with Ferrari at the start of 2019, when he was announced as a member of the Ferrari Driver Academy, having won the previous year's European F3 championship.

He thus joined a strong group that included Callum Ilott, Marcus Armstrong, Robert Shwartzman and Enzo Fittipaldi.

At the time, the team stressed that his father Michael's connections with Ferrari were not the driving force behind the decision to take him, and that he'd earned FDA backing on merit.
Mick Schumacher, Haas F1 Team

Mick Schumacher, Haas F1 Team

Photo by: Erik Junius

Team principal Mattia Binotto commented: "For someone like me who has known him from birth, there's no doubt that welcoming Mick into Ferrari has a special emotional meaning, but we have chosen him for his talent and the human and professional qualities that have already distinguished him despite his young age."

He was given his first F1 test in the SF90 in Bahrain in April 2019, before having a second outing for Alfa Romeo the following day.

He raced with Ferrari support for the Prema F2 team in 2019 and 2020, winning the title in his second season.

In September he gained more F1 miles with the 2018 SF71H at Fiorano ahead of what was supposed to be his first FP1 run with Alfa Romeo at the Nurburgring.

However, bad weather meant that it didn't happen. He finally had his first FP1 session with Haas in Abu Dhabi.

The Ferrari connection helped to propel him into a Haas seat in 2021, and after a frustrating season with an uncompetitive car he continued with the team this season.

An unfortunate run of accidents didn't help his progress, but he scored his first points with eighth place at Silverstone, following up with a sixth place in Austria.

Schumacher was at one time touted as a potential works driver, but support for him within the camp has waned of late.

Ventruck 09-04-2022 12:36 PM

https://register.f1lasvegasgp.com/

May or may not ultimately go. I'd want to get my hands on a paddock pass (although that's stupid expensive) because based on the few experiences I was a spectator at track/race events, I found I'd rather watch the broadcast for clearer detail. Whole goal is to see cars and teams things up close and maybe take Binotto's job.

DLSTR 09-05-2022 02:38 AM

Off to Italy. Where Max will be faster and Perez can continue to prove how worthless he is even as a wingman. Bottas had more days close to LH than Perez has. More wins etc. Its over. Unless RedBull melt down completely, this season is as dominating in style as any Mercedes had.
Enough beeotching about Mercedes domination lol. Suffer the RedBull and smile!

DLSTR 09-08-2022 01:39 PM

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1...entry/10365435

F1 reveals other manufacturers waiting as Porsche entry doubts grow
Formula 1 CEO Stefano Domenicali has revealed that other manufacturers are waiting in the wings to join the championship if Porsche’s plans do eventually fall through.


By: Jonathan Noble
Co-author: Roberto Chinchero
Sep 8, 2022, 12:15 PM

Porsche had been expected to join forces with Red Bull from 2026, when new engine regulations are to come into force.

The initial idea was that Porsche would take a 50 percent shareholding in the Milton Keynes-based operation and would help development of the all-new engine that Red Bull is already working on through its powertrains division.

However, it has since emerged that, as Red Bull and Porsche worked through the detail of their plans to work together, hurdles popped up in terms of what both parties were willing to accept.


From Red Bull’s perspective, it questioned whether or not it wanted to sacrifice the independence and speed-of-response abilities that had proved a mainstay of its success in F1 to get involved with a large corporate entity.

Red Bull has since made clear that if the Porsche plan is to go ahead then it would have to be entirely on its terms, which has made a shareholding partnership now appear to be off.

The only option that appears to still be open is for Porsche to get involved with Red Bull’s powertrains division, although the German car manufacturer had been clear from the off it did not just want to be an engine supplier.

The uncertainty over Porsche’s entry means F1's hopes of attracting two new manufacturers for 2026 – with Audi having already confirmed its plan – may be scuppered for now.

However, Domenicali has revealed that there are other car makers sat on the sidelines waiting for the right opportunity who have kept a deliberately low profile.


Speaking about the Porsche situation ahead of the Italian Grand Prix, Domenicali said: “I can only say that Porsche is an integral part of the group that has discussed and continues to discuss the rules behind the new power unit that will come into force in 2026.

“We have all read comments from Porsche and Red Bull, and they will be them to decide what to do.

“But I believe that we as F1 are currently a very inclusive platform. There are also other manufacturers sitting at the table of the engineers who prefer not to come out into the open."

Domenicali reckoned that F1’s 2026 regulations were super attractive to manufacturers and that the sport was robust enough to survive the ebb and flow of car makers who came in and then left.

“For our part, we are not afraid,” he said. “In the last Concorde Agreement, we asked only one year's notice to teams or manufacturers who intend to abandon Formula 1, in the past the rules were much stricter.

“This change was included because we feel strong and robust enough to move forward anyway, and there are very good backup plans.

“Today, as never in the past, we have a mix of teams, manufacturers and engine suppliers of the highest level. If something changes we know what to do.”

DLSTR 09-10-2022 05:55 AM

Albon has appendicitis - Nyck De Vries to replace him starting in Prac 3.

Ton of grid penalties from yestereday. Max is down 5 spots. Checo down 10. LH in back of the grid and Sainz to the back. Changes to PU, new PU etc.

Ventruck 09-10-2022 11:34 AM

De Vries had a nice showing in QP.

Qualifying champ Charles is back. That's it for me. It's been a good close for the weekend. See you next round.

DLSTR 09-18-2022 04:53 AM

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/so...mple/10370966/

Solution to end fan confusion over F1 grid penalties is ‘pretty simple’
Formula 1 could easily come up with a computer system to publish provisional grids that included penalties within seconds of qualifying finishing, reckons Alpine’s sporting director Alan Permane.
Jonathan Noble
By:
Jonathan Noble
Sep 18, 2022, 10:47 AM
Solution to end fan confusion over F1 grid penalties is ‘pretty simple’

Fans and some teams were left in a state of confusion for nearly four hours after qualifying for the Italian Grand Prix when nobody was sure how the FIA would implement a spate of grid penalties and settle on the final line-up.

The uncertainty about the grid, and the length of time it took to be confirmed, prompted suggestions that a better system should be implemented – especially as the FIA regularly waits until scrutineering is complete before issuing any provisional grid.

But F1 stalwart Permane, who has worked in the sport for decades, thinks an obvious solution would be to set up a computer programme that would instantly be able to work out the penalties the second the final cars crossed the line.

For he reckoned that while some teams fully understood the penalties and how they are implemented – which changed in 2020 with drivers now locked in to their grid drops – making things clearer for fans would help everybody.

“We have guidelines from 2020, and I think the grid was formed exactly how it stated in that guideline,” explained Permane.

“That guideline has been developed, was developed with F1 and the FIA, and has been applied consistently since then. So I don’t think there’s any surprises in it. But there might have been among people who didn’t have the guideline, I guess.

“But I do agree that three and three-quarter hours is a bit long to wait for a grid. I think it would be relatively simple for them to publish it as the last car crosses the line, with the proviso it might change after scrutineering or whatever.

“They could plug all the known penalties into something, and it would be better for everybody.”
Fans look on as the grid launches for the start

ZCanadian 09-20-2022 11:09 AM

Guess this ought to be in the 2023 thread, but...

https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...hQ&oe=632FBB82

DLSTR 09-20-2022 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 4030142)
Guess this ought to be in the 2023 thread, but...

https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...hQ&oe=632FBB82

It might change. China is hardly open for tourists much less racing LOL>

ZCanadian 09-20-2022 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 4030143)
It might change. China is hardly open for tourists much less racing LOL>

It will change, unless Vegas is really a Saturday race!

But yes, agree.

ZCanadian 09-21-2022 11:34 AM

Las Vegas to indeed be a Saturday race, but starting at 10:00pm local time!!!

danegrey 09-22-2022 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 4030216)
Las Vegas to indeed be a Saturday race, but starting at 10:00pm local time!!!

ugh... so what time is that in Europe

6am Britain
7am central Europe
8am Romania

makes sense for them, does not make sense for us on EST....

DLSTR 09-23-2022 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 4030216)
Las Vegas to indeed be a Saturday race, but starting at 10:00pm local time!!!

November is one of the cooler months in Las Vegas. 20C for a high average day, night time temp is 6C lol. Anyone know if Pirelli has a semi winter tire lol???

ZCanadian 09-23-2022 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 4030281)
November is one of the cooler months in Las Vegas. 20C for a high average day, night time temp is 6C lol. Anyone know if Pirelli has a semi winter tire lol???

Very good point - I never realized this! Desert!
EDIT: Google says that sunset is 4:31 local time on race day (race start 10:00pm) and that the average November daytime high is only 21C (70F) which is the average nightly low for Abu Dhabi in November where they complain about the track losing grip as the sun goes down during the race. That's ridiculous!


Meanwhile, returning to this season....
https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...kA&oe=63333941

axmea? 10-01-2022 11:44 PM

Lol!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci-DH...d=NDc0ODY0MjQ=

Ventruck 10-02-2022 01:45 AM

lol @ yuki

danegrey 10-02-2022 07:30 AM

F1 delayed a hour, because of rain...
on a time limit since I have to take my son to the airport here in Atlanta...
He was here and we spent the past 4 days at Petit Lemans'

Ventruck 10-02-2022 01:08 PM

RB had themselves an interesting day for both drivers.

McLaren and Aston benefitted quite a bit from the street circuit chaos.

axmea? 10-03-2022 03:14 AM

Boring. Not exciting at all. They should have let them raced in the rain.

danegrey 10-03-2022 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 4030510)
Boring. Not exciting at all. They should have let them raced in the rain.

I agree, some drama, lots of retirements

axmea? 10-03-2022 11:21 PM

My understanding is the wets were 5hitty tires for Singapore to begin with.

danegrey 10-09-2022 01:10 AM

well some type conditions as Singapore, red flag rain delay, looks like its going to be a time race...

danegrey 10-09-2022 02:11 AM

so race to restart at 15 after the hour, they will run like for 45 minutes..
time race....

just wonder why they do not have service cars trying to clear the water off...

F1 just don't understand... this type of stuff

Ventruck 10-09-2022 03:17 PM

Championship team and driver there. I'm sure we'll get tired if we see it a couple more seasons, but right now RB as a whole is at the top of their game. That's a dominant of a title defense they could achieve.

All LeClerc could do was lose less, and he tried.
Vettel had himself a drive.
Also hard to believe Latifi was the guy who couldn't find the track during FP1 and he came up this well in the race. GOAT.

ZCanadian 10-12-2022 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ventruck (Post 4030720)
Championship team and driver there. I'm sure we'll get tired if we see it a couple more seasons, but right now RB as a whole is at the top of their game. That's a dominant of a title defense they could achieve.

All LeClerc could do was lose less, and he tried.
Vettel had himself a drive.
Also hard to believe Latifi was the guy who couldn't find the track during FP1 and he came up this well in the race. GOAT.

And poor Mick - his engineers were counting on Latifi to do his magic but the safety car never materialized and he just kept backing his way down the pack on full wets.

danegrey 10-12-2022 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 4030834)
And poor Mick - his engineers were counting on Latifi to do his magic but the safety car never materialized and he just kept backing his way down the pack on full wets.

At that stage there was nothing else HAAS could do and hope for...

DLSTR 10-17-2022 02:15 PM

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/re...-fia/10385745/

Red Bull's F1 cost cap overspend "constitutes cheating", Brown tells FIA

McLaren CEO Zak Brown has urged the FIA to act "at pace" and come down hard on Formula 1's cost cap rule breakers, declaring that overspending "constitutes cheating".

By:
Jonathan Noble
Oct 17, 2022, 5:42 PM

Red Bull's F1 cost cap overspend "constitutes cheating", Brown tells FIA
The FIA is currently evaluating its next steps after announcing last week that Red Bull had breached last year's cost cap limit, as well as having committed a procedural offence. Aston Martin was also found to have broken the rules with a procedural breach.

Both Red Bull and Aston Martin have the option of going down an Accepted Breach Agreement if they concur with the FIA's findings, or they can choose to challenge the matter through the Cost Cap Adjudication panel.

While it is not clear which route will be taken, McLaren F1 CEO Zak Brown has written to the FIA to let it be known how critical he thinks it is that the matter is not brushed under the carpet.


In the letter, a copy of which has been seen by Autosport, he said: "The overspend breach, and possibly the procedural breaches, constitute cheating by offering a significant advantage across technical, sporting, and financial regulations."

He added: "The bottom line is any team who has overspent has gained an unfair advantage both in the current and following year's car development."

Brown wrote the letter to FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem and F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali in private last week.

However, the contents of the letter have emerged after Brown also sent it to all the cost cap compliant teams over the weekend. This included Mercedes, Ferrari, Alpine, Alfa Romeo, Haas and Williams.

In the letter, Brown expressed his faith in the FIA's policing of the cost cap process so far but said that how the governing body acted now was hugely important.

He argued that there was no excuse for any team to have overspent, especially as everyone had been through a dress rehearsal of spending limits in 2020.

Brown believes there is no excuse for Red Bull's overspend in 2021 after the cost cap was introduced in 2020.

axmea? 10-18-2022 02:05 AM

This cost cap drama is getting old and the 5h!+$.
Please move on. If you didn't overspend after years and years of budget busting spend, you simply had better bean counters. For the breach, just pay up as stated in the rules and get back to racing. I'll be in Austin to enjoy the races and all the entertainment that comes with it including Greenday, Ed, and DJ Deisel lol who I hope will not be the one giving out the trophies.

danegrey 10-20-2022 10:15 AM

HAAS going to try a title sponsor again!


https://racer.com/2022/10/20/haas-se...ship-for-2023/

God-Speed 10-20-2022 05:29 PM

OK US Grand Prix forecast.

Friday. 57*am -- 88* 0% chance of rain.

Saturday. 64*am -- 90* 0% chance of rain.

Sunday. 69* am -- 92* 0% chance of rain.

:tup:

danegrey 10-21-2022 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God-Speed (Post 4031061)
OK US Grand Prix forecast.

Friday. 57*am -- 88* 0% chance of rain.

Saturday. 64*am -- 90* 0% chance of rain.

Sunday. 69* am -- 92* 0% chance of rain.

:tup:

you going? or did I miss that

God-Speed 10-22-2022 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 4031117)
you going? or did I miss that

With last yrs. Parking and shuttle issues we decided not to go this year. :ugh2:

Averying 10-22-2022 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God-Speed (Post 4031123)
With last yrs. Parking and shuttle issues we decided not to go this year. :ugh2:


Currently on the shuttle to the track. So far so good. Don’t have high hopes for the shuttle back tho!


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God-Speed 10-22-2022 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Averying (Post 4031124)
Currently on the shuttle to the track. So far so good. Don’t have high hopes for the shuttle back tho!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Good deal. Have fun and let me know how things go. :tup:

danegrey 10-23-2022 02:00 PM

time to watch F1 with my son :happydance:

danegrey 10-23-2022 02:17 PM

where was the meat ball for Perez with that front wing....

danegrey 10-23-2022 06:19 PM

race was entertaining,

HAAS - smart call to leave MAG on medium till the end got 9th
MAX - is max great recover after pit problems
Hamilton - nice drive, but car is not there
LeClerc - nice drive, now if he hadn't had the grid penaty
Saniz - no luck
Stroll - doesn't belong in F1, late move and then not taking blame
Alonso - great recover drive
Norris - was on fire at the end
Vettel - had a good drive

In all a dun race to watch

Ventruck 10-23-2022 06:27 PM

That was some race.

danegrey 10-24-2022 07:04 AM

HAAS protested Perez and Alonso over mirror and wing

https://the-race.com/formula-1/alons...perez-cleared/

it makes no sense on Perez, that was flying piece of carbon fiber, that could have hit another car. He should be penalized too.

ZCanadian 10-26-2022 09:33 AM

Sauber to become the Audi works team from 2026.
Alfa was already ending their title sponsorship after next year.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...CXdCR9xJl.html


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