MB car exposed but Lewis put a blanket on to keep it in control. So much patience (unlike the young guns) and control that no one else has. He is just so good.

Stroll failed to see what the strategy was. Both he and the pitwall are not communicating and by now Stroll needs a better understanding of F1 and how it works. He is a poor student.

He failed to see graining was the trademark of that tire in those conditions and once graining was passed he could push. He is in the press asking what happend.

I guess fair question but others simply drove to gain pace and work with the package. Perez showed exactly who deserves a seat and who doesnt. If Stroll Sr was at all serious about this Lance would be gone. Pathetic LOL

Just finish watching the race, amazing the Hamilton won and bottas just kept spinning.
L. Stroll -- well the above comments simple state what happen
Albon -- hmmm, wonder enough if he kept his seat.
just entertaining and just have to say Hamilton and tyre management ---

Apparently, Bottas reported steering damage to his car from a first lap incident (with Ricciardo, I believe). Might be a weakness of DAS that there is more to go wrong in an incident like that. This was not the race to have steering problems in!

Albon did well, but not well enough. Had Perez not done so brilliant a job, it might have been sufficient.

Hamilton is the master of tire management. And a great driver in dry and wet.

Alfa needs to fire their pit crews. Repeated 9+ second stop times are not acceptable, and they have been pulling that crap all season!

Not sure about the best of all times. He is the best in this era. There have been several great drivers. It's hard to pick just one.

Only God knows for sure (not talking about God-Speed, either :icon17: )
But he truly is a master of his craft. Not my favourite driver, but I admire his abilities in so many ways. And I am impressed with his determination and refusal to give up. That is a valuable lesson to us all.

Now, his fashion sense, investments, and political activisim, well... Lets just say he is an amazing race driver and leave it at that! :rofl2:

Formula has always been about run what you brung regardless of budget which is why Ferrari was able to dominate for there period in history. All the great drivers went to teams with the best car and the all were in the most technological for their day. The same basic ground rules apply to today. You can also look at winning percentage as some will say there are more races today. That said, the discussions always go to well Jack would be better than Tiger if he had the same equipment or Jack never faced the amount of talent that Tiger has. So we can debate and speculate as it is good fun.

Anyway, best overall drive of vehicles Robbie Gordon and for getting about it. LoL

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I still can't pick just one. We shall see, Hamilton has more time on his clock to go. He's not done yet!!!!

The thing for me is the drivers back in the early days where xx were being killed a year. How do you through caution to the wind and do it anyway knowing you may be killed if you make a mistake. Safety these days is leaps and bounds better than anything in the early days or even the early 2000's. How does that influence my decision. Should it? I think it should. Hamilton is way better than Schumacher.

The numbers never lie
 

Statistically, Hamilton is way better, although both earned their 7th at the same age, Lewis has a longer runway, has more championships in the horizon, and Schumacher is at peace with it.

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Yeah I agree but Hamilton made F1 boring as far as Im concerned. He is less loved compared to Shumi.

What has that got to do with being the GOAT? Nothing, He is kicking everyone's arse. Shumi could be a jerk and sometimes he drove like one.

The debate will end someday but until then, here's a good analysis.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/54675791

If Hamilton keep his rampage up, there will be no doubt he is the GOAT.

I lost my respect for Schumacher, when he purposely turned in on j. Villeneuve, to try to stop him from winning the championship. If I remember he lost all his points that year.
He had his abilities, but that is where I lost it. I think Hamilton teammates give him a bigger challenge.

Now how Schumacher, brought back Ferrari and got the team going in the right direction. Admire him for that.

He did bring Ferrari back from the dead.

Blacks are generally disliked more than Whites in sports dominated by Whites. Especially with the older generations. Same goes things goes with Jack vs Tiger.

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There will be some who will never admit that it is not "just the car".
These are mostly the same people who cannot back their minivan out of the garage without a flag-man on standby, or at least a rear-view camera.

I think that Lewis has the respect of his peers, and in all honesty that is more important (and impressive).

And "of all time" is a long time. No reason why a LeClerc or Norris couldn't best his number sometime down the road, if things came together for them.

I guess some folks just can't get over skin color. Tiger has no doubt been the best. He still impresses even with his injuries that are very difficult to deal with.
Jack even roots for him from what I have seen. Just craziness.

I think the possibility of there being someone to catch any of the greats right now is improbable because Lewis has a lot of racing ahead of him unless something unfortunate happens or he decides to quit and do something else. I do think those young guys do have a chance of winning a few championship if the get a car were their talent can shine even more. They also need to mature. Lewis is just like Tiger before his X tried to kill him, he is got everyone beat in the shortest part of the track, the six inches between his ears.

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Precisely my point he is the GOAT and being said he dominated everyone in the series. His driving skills is the greatest no doubt. No other driver or manufacturer came close to challenge him. Its kinda you know who is gonna win even before the race started. Thats why I said it was less exciting.

F1 has been Highly celebrated during the era where Alain Prost vs Senna, Shumi vs Hakkinen and Nikki Lauda vs James Hunt to name a few. Where Championship is being decided at the last race or slim margins.

Nothing against Hamilton he is the greatest of them all but I likes challenges and real battles between two equally skilled racers and that brings excitement to the sport.

Currently the excitement from F1 is focused on other drivers battling for 2nd and 3rd. Position. Seeing rich boy Stroll fighting in the top 5 even got me excited.



You took me out of context buddy.

I agree with that, and I respect him for that....

Bahrain Race #1 this weekend!

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...kXSjvHTnR.html

Practice 1 n 2 report -- https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/report?id=28121

Highlight of Practice today was this lol -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05W5gZsfNb8

Bahrain qualy report - https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/report?id=28121

BAHRAIN GP SUSPENDED AFTER FIERY GROSJEAN CRASH
car was cut in half, not good, Grosjean survived with minor injuries

Front of the car in the barrier, halo, probably saved his life
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Crazy crash. Halo, medical car being right behind and crew right at the scene of the crash all contributed to saving Grosjean.

New barrier regulations coming into effect soon, I’m sure.

No car should ever meet steel on a track in F1 now. Soft barrier technology is available. No excuse.

I agree, but racing will never ever be safe, it is when moments like this happens, that cause items to be relooked at. Racing is really unpredictable, when it comes to accidents. With the speed, angles, etc who knows. The wheel to wheel contact of Stroll and Kvyat and Stroll rolls over???

Grosjean, is a reminder of what can happen and how far safety has advance over the years....

death/injury is always there.... You can not get in a car and perform, if that is on your mind....

Happy to see this!!

https://twitter.com/autosport/status...32807%2Fpage-9

It was shocking to see but like the medical staff stated, everything has to work in concert to save a driver's life. I counted 25 seconds from the time of impact to when he jumped out. That's eternity. In a way, that's a good day for RG.

Not a good day for Bottas, Stroll, Perez, and RP. Throw Kvyat on the list.

I so wish Niki Lauda was still here to see this today. So many things were learned and improved as a result of his tragedy, including having oxygen in the cockpit. It's really incredible that the sport has come so far in safety that this crash and especially the fire was so shocking. It's also a testament to the teams and FIA that all of the preventions worked exactly as they were supposed to when most needed. This could not occur with preparation, practice and continuous focus.

Now, about that track marshal who darted across the track in front of Lando to extinguish Checo's fire is another thing!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...ht-after-crash

Haas confirmed soon after the accident that Grosjean had sustained slight burns to his hands and ankles, and was being taken to hospital with a suspected broken rib.

Haas later confirmed in a statement that all X-rays completed on Grosjean had come back showing no fractures or breaks, and that he would undergo treatment for burns to the back of both hands.

The team also revealed that the impact speed was 221 km/h before the logger on Grosjean's car stopped, converting to 137 mph.

Team boss Steiner gave an update following the race to say that he had spoken with Grosjean and he was in good spirits and confirming the Frenchman would be staying in hospital overnight.

"I just spoke with him on the phone, he's in a clear state of mind, he's good," Steiner said on Sky Sports F1.

"He's still staying in the hospital overnight, they want to keep him there. But he told me and not the doctor, he feels good, it seems nothing is broken.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-for-sakhir-gp

Pietro Fittipaldi will make his Formula 1 debut this weekend at the Sakhir Grand Prix after Romain Grosjean was ruled out through injury.

Haas F1 driver Grosjean sustained burns to the backs of his hands in a terrifying crash on the opening lap of the Bahrain Grand Prix on Sunday, leaving him in need of treatment in hospital.

Although Grosjean is set to be released from hospital on Tuesday, Haas has confirmed that he is unable to race in the Sakhir Grand Prix this weekend.

As a result, Haas reserve driver Fittipaldi will get the call up to make his F1 debut, replacing Grosjean.

"After it was decided that the best thing for Romain was to skip at least one race, the choice to put Pietro in the car was pretty easy," said Haas F1 team principal Gunther Steiner.

"Pietro will drive the VF-20 and he's familiar with us having been around the team for the past two seasons as a test and reserve driver.

What a race weekend! So happy that Romain is okay and will recover quickly. The barrier thing can be debated as to do all barrier need to soft barrier because the odds of someone crashing were he did is pretty unlikely the other thing is why did the car explode into flames? That is as big a question if not more so than the barriers. To that point none of the comments above mention Alex Albon, he could of as easily been killed or injured in his accident. That corner is pretty dang dangerous if you run wide there.

Me and my brother ran the track on his sims Saturday night. Really a fun track and the hairpin turns are incredibly technical and of the tracks out there is the likely hood of hitting a wall is not nearly as bad as many of the tracks run in F1. Racing is dangerous and despite all the safety precautions the strange and unusual will occur and hopefully those involved walk away with little to no injuries.

I don't know about you guys, but the finish was what really had me on the edge of my seat :eek: :rolleyes:

Glad to hear RG is doing well and not seriously injured. Especially in crash such as that. That's a win for the safety regulations.

Yeah, what a race, what a crash.
One can argue the barriers all day long, but it seems that they did exactly what they were meant to do. They absorbed an immense impact without killing the driver. The car didn't careen into the infield, nor did it bounce back into traffic.
I doubt that anyone would have expected a perpendicular crash along a straight.

Thank God that he didn't lose consciousness. Nobody could have reached around in that fire to find the driver (they couldn't even tell if the safety cell was right side up!), un-harness, remove the steering wheel and headrest, and lift an unconscious driver out of the wreck.

A lot of credit has to be given to Romain for not panicking and getting out of the car so fast. You have about 10 seconds before all your safety gear fails.

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Definitely. One could argue that he had a fair bit of motivation here. But he must have been severely shaken by the crash - it takes a moment to get your bearings after a high G deceleration like that. There must have been very little visibility other than flames, his tear-offs would be melting onto the visor making it even worse. Who knows what debris might have been in his way, or what may have been melting and preventing proper operation (harness, steering wheel, headrest, etc). Perhaps he could hear yelling from the medical team, but I doubt it (earplugs meant to protect from an F1 engine behind his head), so he wouldn't even be certain which way was safest to run. Having to traverse 30 feet of burning fuel slick would not have added to the survivability of this crash!

Take a stopwatch to the event. I think Niki Lauda was looking down on him yesterday, because he used up every one of those 10 seconds (and then some).

Agreed! He definitely had a guardian angel watching over him. I can't imagine what the impact of hitting that barrier must of felt like and the to gain his wits to figure out what to do next but as one of my favorite comedians, Richard Pryor said..."Fire is a great motivator, set brother on fire and he will run the 100 yard dash in less than 10 seconds!"

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