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eastwest2300 04-30-2015 09:38 AM

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: Who do YOU got?
 
Welcome to my threads, lets discuss.

All right boys, its almost game time. Saturday May2nd, 2015.. live on PPV! $100.

Im taking the Pacman to win by points, he'll throw & land more punches. (and I would loooove to see BIG mouth get stopped!)

jaytirbhaw 04-30-2015 09:40 AM

I want to see mayweather get his arrogant *** humbled, I want to see pacman win. But i feel like mayweather will dance, pac will chase and mayweather will win by points.

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jaytirbhaw (Post 3183795)
I want to see mayweather get his arrogant *** humbled, I want to see pacman win. But i feel like mayweather will dance, pac will chase and mayweather will win by points.

yeah, I think its gonna be decided by points. pacmans gotta throw and land more punches to win, which I think he will. We'll see though.

speedfreek 04-30-2015 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jaytirbhaw (Post 3183795)
I want to see mayweather get his arrogant *** humbled, I want to see pacman win. But i feel like mayweather will dance, pac will chase and mayweather will win by points.

According to Freddie Roach he has learned his lesson after the De La Hoya fight. He has trained Pac to not give chase if it is a trap. I guess the question remains is how does he know if he giving chase into a trap or not? Also he supposedly will not fight reckless where he throws multiple combos. With arguably the best counterpuncher around today he will likely lose that battle. The game plan is to get in and get out. Fire off a 1,2 combo and reset. Don't be there for the counter hook.

I would like to see Pac stop Mayweather but at the very least win the decision.

I like what Pac said about giving Mayweather everything he asked for to make the fight happen. He is on death row. I hope Pac makes that come to fruition in this fight.

Chuck33079 04-30-2015 09:58 AM

I WANT Manny to win. Mayweather WILL win. It's why we all keep watching.

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3183823)
I WANT Manny to win. Mayweather WILL win. It's why we all keep watching.

Mayweather needs to lose.. Gosh, i want him to lose.

jaytirbhaw 04-30-2015 10:03 AM

if manny does pull the win off it'll be the sweetest, most fulfilling upset ever lol.

It'll also empty a hell of alot of pockets.

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jaytirbhaw (Post 3183832)
if manny does pull the win off it'll be the sweetest, most fulfilling upset ever lol.

It'll also empty a hell of alot of pockets.

Ohh bro, it'll be good for boxing.. BIG mouth has been ducking this fight for the last 5 years, FINALLY it goes down...

Amj2020 04-30-2015 10:17 AM

I think we are all going to be disappointed by another Floyd defensive masterpiece that is boring to watch, and he wins a decision.

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Amj2020 (Post 3183865)
I think we are all going to be disappointed by another Floyd defensive masterpiece that is boring to watch, and he wins a decision.

noooooo.

I think if anything, Pacman will bring the fight, mayweather will be running (as he usually does). Pacman will get the crowd behind him, begging BIG mouth to bring the fight, Floyd will land his shots, but Pacman will be more of thee aggressor in the fight.. Pacman should win on points alone. (hopefully)

speedfreek 04-30-2015 10:53 AM

Pac needs to chase him at first just to show the audience that is what Mayweather wants to do is just dance and counter.

Then he should go to the center of the ring and get the crowd into it and make Mayweather fight.

Zoren 370 04-30-2015 11:38 AM

Hopefully Pacman will stick to the plan of in and out just to score points. He needs to get it out of his mind to knock him out. It would be very difficult to do that with Mayweather, he might get a lucky right straight punch that did him vs Marquez.

Mayweather would never engage, I hope pacman will not over commit
And fall into a right punch trap.

Winning by points is the key. But if Vegas Mafia is on it.
Dang I do not know if points alone can make the win for Manny.

1st 04-30-2015 11:59 AM

I want to see mayweather WIN.

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 3183911)
Pac needs to chase him at first just to show the audience that is what Mayweather wants to do is just dance and counter.

Then he should go to the center of the ring and get the crowd into it and make Mayweather fight.

:iagree::iagree:

And to a certain point I think pacman will do that, BIG mouth will be running all night long, hope to the good lord nothing controversial happens.. (ie. victor ortiz)

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3183943)
Hopefully Pacman will stick to the plan of in and out just to score points. He needs to get it out of his mind to knock him out. It would be very difficult to do that with Mayweather, he might get a lucky right straight punch that did him vs Marquez.

Mayweather would never engage, I hope pacman will not over commit
And fall into a right punch trap.

Winning by points is the key. But if Vegas Mafia is on it.
Dang I do not know if points alone can make the win for Manny.

Oh my gosh, I hope Manny doesnt take it like he got it from Marquez.. I can hear the Mayweather fanboys right now.. PLEASE, dont let that happen. Hell, who are we kidding BIG mouth doesnt have knockout power. We all know that.

rooftop 04-30-2015 12:36 PM

Where's the poll? :P

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 12:53 PM

dahhhhhhhhh

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 12:55 PM

Ask and ye shall receive... :icon17:

rooftop 04-30-2015 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3184041)
Ask and ye shall receive... :icon17:

Let's go Pacman! WAR Pacman!

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rooftop (Post 3184044)
Let's go Pacman! WAR Pacman!

Dude im literally nervous, big fights like this, I get nervous. I fricken love boxing. I love hitting the punching bag. Im so hyped up for this fight.. I wont be able to sleep tomorrow night... :rofl2::rofl2:

lt_370z 04-30-2015 01:20 PM

Ok so here's my theory of how it goes down. Vegas is all about $$$ right? Who gives a **** about Mayweather at this point in his career because he only has 2 fights left on his contract before he retires and it needs to be the biggest money maker possible. So this fight goes to a very controversial decision (close fight anybody could be the winner) and the judges give it to Manny Pacquiao...Why you ask? Because Mayweather has a clause in the contract that he gets a guaranteed rematch. Which means $$$$$! If Mayweather beats Pacquiao, no way Mayweather gives him a rematch and he will fight some scrub for his last fight. I don't think Vegas will let that happen because there's too much money to be made. In the end Vegas wins always, enjoy the fight.

Zoren 370 04-30-2015 01:26 PM

Tell me about it man! Literally the Philippines is like " I am Legend" everytime he fights...zero crime, zero traffic, most business are closed, the roads are empty!
Nobody gets screwed in the showers in prison!!!

Thats how BIG he is back home!

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 01:27 PM

Dude, you bring up very good points.. BUT, I also think Mayweather wants to be considered the greatest of all time (he thinks he is, but some if not most of the general public does not, without a victory over Pacquiao), and in order for him to be considered that, he wants & needs to be undefeated WITH a win over a storied champion like Pacquiao.

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3184105)
Tell me about it man! Literally the Philippines is like " I am Legend" everytime he fights...zero crime, zero traffic, most business are closed, the roads are empty!
Nobody gets screwed in the showers in prison!!!

Thats how BIG he is back home!

But he's also done so much for the phillipines...he's like a superhero. (literally)

speedfreek 04-30-2015 01:37 PM

I won't get to watch the fight live :(

I already bought Slipknot tickets for the same night as the fight before it was announced.

But as for lt_370z. Let's say Pac gets the decision and the auto rematch is granted. What happens when Pac wins again? I like that scenario best.

lt_370z 04-30-2015 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 3184117)
I won't get to watch the fight live :(

I already bought Slipknot tickets for the same night as the fight before it was announced.

But as for lt_370z. Let's say Pac gets the decision and the auto rematch is granted. What happens when Pac wins again? I like that scenario best.

I'm glad you asked that. The fight between these 2 guys will go to a decision. If there is a rematch it will also go to a decision that Mayweather will win and still be able to be known as one of the greatest ever.

speedfreek 04-30-2015 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lt_370z (Post 3184151)
I'm glad you asked that. The fight between these 2 guys will go to a decision. If there is a rematch it will also go to a decision that Mayweather will win and still be able to be known as one of the greatest ever.

I still like my scenario better. Pac wins both! But I do see what you are saying if Mayweather is wanting to try to get paid for his last fight. But I do not see him wanting to drop the first "L" on his record so I see him trying to do whatever he can to win by decision.

lt_370z 04-30-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3184106)
Dude, you bring up very good points.. BUT, I also think Mayweather wants to be considered the greatest of all time (he thinks he is, but some if not most of the general public does not, without a victory over Pacquiao), and in order for him to be considered that, he wants & needs to be undefeated WITH a win over a storied champion like Pacquiao.

This fight will go to a decision and at that point you can only pray. Pacquiao got screwed by the judges in the Bradley fight. Mayweather won a "Split" decision against Canelo when he clearly dominated him. Anything can happen unless you knock the guy out which we all know Mayweather will not do. He will earn points by counterpunching and jabs.

lt_370z 04-30-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 3184154)
I still like my scenario better. Pac wins both!

Speedfreek I'm all for Pacquiao and I wish that does happen!

Zbrah 04-30-2015 02:06 PM

I picked Mayweather on the poll because that's the likely outcome. Really rooting for pacman though.

lt_370z 04-30-2015 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 3184154)
I still like my scenario better. Pac wins both! But I do see what you are saying if Mayweather is wanting to try to get paid for his last fight. But I do not see him wanting to drop the first "L" on his record so I see him trying to do whatever he can to win by decision.

It's not Mayweather that cares about the money at this point it's Vegas. Mayweather would rather have the 0 losses on his record than a rematch to make more money. He can get another fight with somebody else and still make 80-100 mill.

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lt_370z (Post 3184157)
This fight will go to a decision and at that point you can only pray. Pacquiao got screwed by the judges in the Bradley fight. Mayweather won a "Split" decision against Canelo when he clearly dominated him. Anything can happen unless you knock the guy out which we all know Mayweather will not do. He will earn points by counterpunching and jabs.

Oh my gosh talk about highway robbery, yes, the pacquiao v. bradley was complete bullsh1t.. but you're right, we all want a clear winner, no bullsh1t attached. Thats what Im hoping for.

And I dont think mayweather would sacrifice a loss for NO amount of money.. even if its in Vegas.

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lt_370z (Post 3184167)
It's not Mayweather that cares about the money at this point it's Vegas. Mayweather would rather have the 0 losses on his record than a rematch to make more money. He can get another fight with somebody else and still make 80-100 mill.

You and I sir, are on the same page.

ANMVQ 04-30-2015 02:18 PM

mayweather will back out watch, Missing training days last week, He afraid, First fight he didn't hand pick. He didnt want any part of Manny 6 years ago and nothing is changed. mayweather is a BIG mouth and Mannys going to shut it ! IF mayweather shows up.

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 02:20 PM

I hope to the good lord above this doesnt happen... I'd have a heart attack...

UNKNOWN_370 04-30-2015 02:23 PM

Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!!

MightyMouse13 04-30-2015 03:23 PM

I think Mayweather's the better boxer, by a fairly wide margin, and could win if he wanted to, but something's smelled fishy about Bob Aram and this whole matchup since way back when, so I'm gonna say Mayweather loses the fight to set up an even bigger paying rematch.

Now if that's not the case, no way Pac wins. Mayweather is such a great fighter because nobody can outbox/ outscore him, but he's also not going to let you get close enough to knock him out. The only way to a win against him is by knockout. So you have to make the risky choice to chase a knockout, or go with the almost surefire failing plan to try to beat him at his own game, which I'm highly doubtful happens.

UNKNOWN_370 04-30-2015 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouse13 (Post 3184271)
I think Mayweather's the better fighter, by a fairly wide margin, and could win if he wanted to, but something's smelled fishy about Bob Aram and this whole matchup since way back when, so I'm gonna say Mayweather loses the fight to set up an even bigger paying rematch.

Now if that's not the case, no way Pac wins. Mayweather is such a great fighter because nobody can outbox/ outscore him, but he's also not going to let you get close enough to knock him out. The only way to a win against him is by knockout. So you have to make the risky choice to chase a knockout, or go with the almost surefire failing plan to try to beat him at his own game, which I'm highly doubtful happens.


Lol... When you said wide margin? You werejoking right?

Chuck33079 04-30-2015 04:16 PM

It's such a shame this fight didn't happen years ago when Mayweather first started ducking Manny. THAT would have been an epic fight. This is one last cash-in before Mayweather quits.

MightyMouse13 04-30-2015 04:17 PM

Ok to clarify- boxer, not fighter. Misspoke. The better fighter would be pac.

Mayweather's strategy has been the same for years, and, as is obvious by his record, has worked to perfection. Win by all objective measurements (punch stats), and dare the judges to give you the loss based on the subjective data (even if the subjective stuff, like who's actually winning the fight) is right. If you're sitting in the judges' chair, and the compubox numbers are coming back that Floyd's landed punch to getting hit ratio is over 3:1 (Floyd's career stats) while Pac's is only a little over 1:1 (Pac's current career stats), you've got to feel like you're in a pretty tight spot even if your eyes are telling you otherwise. It's not pretty, it doesn't always yield the correct decision, but it's pretty hard to question who's the better "boxer".


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