Heard of Enron, they shared your philosophy douche? LOL Make as much as possible despite ethics, you should be a CFO for a major company. :happydance:

Nobody said at cost but you can put words in peoples mouths I guess..

:iagree: Harumph!

The prices forged quoted is about right for hourly work done. However, 3.5 hours for a bolt on intake and 2.5 hours on a bolt on cat back exhaust and 1.5 hours on a cat converter is ridiculous. I am going on the pic as quoted. It took me 45 mins on the street to pull my stock exhaust and install the GTM 3" adding cats is tricky and takes about an hour for an experienced tech. Intakes on the other hand is like a 30min deal... That being said the guys at forged performance take their time... that can be seen as a good thing and a bad thing. Honestly, I would rather do it myself then pay $105/hr for them to milk the time to get it done. This is where they make their profit just like if a dealership was doing the work... charge you $700 for an install and really only be paying the tech $120 or so to do the work. I would prefer if the OP take their car elsewhere. Their car will be safer in the long run and they will get a better deal.

Literally any shop with the right tools, competent techs and a lift can do the HFC's and exhaust in 3 hrs (ben had his done in this time not at forged). Intake is the easiest install you can do on this car for performance parts. I would say max 1 hour of labor. overall you should have 4 hours of labor and about a $400 bill NOT $695!!!! Forged Performance is over priced from this bill and from my past experience... I was given a bait and switch but I will not go into that. Be careful and READ the fine print!!!! Check out Z1 much better service and pricing :tup:

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The porpose of this forum is for information and community, nobody is an expert on everything...so if someone posts this quote and asks for thoughts, your damn right people are gonna speak up if its unjust! People, shops, dealers, vendors ect..need to realize that anything you say and do to anyone is subject for scrutiny at the expense of thier reputation. All these people on here with thier little segregate attitudes bashing the OP for posting information that could be helpful to a less informed person is retarded. If you dont like the idea of community, dont be on this site

Your "ethical lines of business practice" argument is comical.

Charging $15 for a bottle of water in a hurricane ravaged town is unethical.

Charging a relatively high labor rate and relatively high prices on goods is NOT unethical. Unreasonable? Perhaps. But enethical, not at all. And again, considering there are other lower-cost shops in the ATL area and Forged is STILL in business they obviously are doing something right. Their clients obviously find value in their services and are willing to pay a premium.

If what Forged is doing is unethical, then:

A car dealership asking MSRP for a vehicle is unethical.

A botique watch shop charging 35% more than an online shop is unethical.

A grocery store charging $6.99 for a 4-pack of Red Bull instead of $5.99 like the one down the street is unethical.

I could go on and on, but I'm sure everyone else gets the point.

Quoted.

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Lou Fusz :yum: and Red Bull :yum: :yum:

Yeah, but we should be able to do it without running around calling each other douches or going way out of our way to drag a shop through the mud.

If I got that quote from Forged you bet your *** I would go somewhere else because I'm not paying that much, but I certainly don't think what they're asking is "unethical." Unreasonable relative to my expectations, yes, but unethical? No.

Enron went under because of their accounting practices (research auditor independence) among other reasons. what happened, you heard the word 'ethics' and 'business' and think 'OH ENRON GREAT EXAMPLE' :shakes head:

take a business law class and read the uniform commercial code.

Enron took advantage of the public who were unaware of the reasons for high energy costs (despite that they caused it by creating a shortage). Accounting malpractice was only to hide what they had done genius. I STRONGLY encourage you to work for some of my company's competitors ASAP. :) I will be happy to give you a reference.

I only buy on sale or at reasonable prices like any other informed human being. It is unethical to overcharge to make excessive profits M4A1. But then again, you bought a Ford so I can't seem to reason with someone who defies logic, LOL. Say hi to me when you drive by in your V8 next to the Grandma also driving your car. :roflpuke2: Yes you are faster, no your car is not cool. I have seen SMART cars with hayabusa engines which will handling destroy a 370Z on the road. Maybe you should look into that setup for pure speed buddy without any sense of respect for yourself.

I know where you and Forged can put those gumballs, PM me for thoughts.

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Funny how only some of us seem capable of having an adult discussion here. :rolleyes:

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Enron has sweet parties. And so does Forged...that's my example. (Sharif you know I am kidding with you)

You know that on this forum there is a fine line between freely stating your opinion and directing attacking someone... and you're flirting with it.
I'd highly reccomend pausing for a minute, and rethink your next few posts... :ugh:

I'm not going to lie, I am not capable of these words you speak :roflpuke2:

What's up with all the name calling? No one was calling you names, they were just disagreeing with your methods and/or point of view. No one is personally attacking you. :shakes head:

i might have missed the name calling, but for informational purposes its valid...maybe a diff approach to delivering that info might have been better

you should go start a business. charge your customers exactly what you pay your employees per our, sell things for exactly what you paid for them, and see how long you stay in business.


Yea and that grandma driving the 5.0 would be driving a faster car than you.

You missed it.

Let's not forget there quote wasn't set in stone. Everything is negotiable. That's another business strategy. Works both ways. I believe if this quote knocked off two hours there'd be no issue. Which could easily of been done.

Don't you come in here with logic!

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Yeah, it's fine. Those quotes aren't confidential so they can be shared wherever they want. And it's not like Forged can hide what it charges its clients. If people want to discuss it then people can discuss it and its up to Forged to defend their pricing.

I just think when we do we should be courteous and act like adults, instead of calling people who disagree with you douches, dumbasses, or idiots like '10Anomoly is doing. That's just a good way to get banned and doesn't belong here.

I don't think any less of someone just because I don't agree with them. I am not going to call someone an idiot just because they happen to disagree with my opinion. That's really uncalled for.

i'll stick with my job thanks for the offer though. :tiphat: but i'm sure your competitors are quite successful if your total lack of business sense is any indication of what your company is like.

Nice couch, you own it?

wow nvrmnd, am done :shakes head:

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Respectfully, I'd suggest everyone here to focus on the "issue", not the "people". The issue here is a high quote, which I'm not disagreeing. There may be many reasons that lead to this "issue", such as overhead, labor, availability, etc. But I kindly suggest separating the individual opinions from defamation of character. It's a thin line, but just a personal suggestion that would add value to your posts.

I cannot disagree that this may be a high quote, but I don't live in that area so I cannot say whether this is the norm or not. But from a "people" and "character" perspective... I have never ever met Sharif in person. I have never had him spend 1 minute of labor on my vehicles. I have purchased some parts from him here and there, but nothing big. This is due to me being on the West Coast and we have ample suppliers and distributors here. However, I like to install things myself. I would call Sharif at odd hours of the day, and not once has he turned me down when I needed assistance. He stays on the phone with me and calls back from time to time to make sure everything's ok. I cannot even count how many times I have called his cell phone for assistance, yet he treats me the same today as he did 3 years ago, without one ounce of annoyance.

I'm sure there are many sides to a story, but chalk that up as just my small humble experience with his "character".

Please continue.

I've got :drama: if you want some.

So how about those Jets?? :wtf2:

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:nutswinger:Yeah I need to reconsider my thoughts thanks to your post. I was so close to trouble but you saved me from the devastation of forum punishment, the worst thing in life since mild hangnails.

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LOL. Why would anyone want that!