I agree, if they are in business then someone must enjoy paying those rates, or someone's parents do. Either way, if you do enjoy it, go to Forged I say!

Yeah, Forged wrote the shop manual didnt they... or was that Nissan..

is this better? Or would you be more willing to believe my expert knowledge if i charged you an ungodly amount for it?:rolleyes:
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/SNC00296.jpg

I thought they charged $400 for that too:confused:

isnt that what they call a performance evaluation? :ugh2:http://www.the370z.com/south-east-re...ns-forged.html

And PS again, this forum is for spreading info, so prob should stop trying to restrain info on shop rates for people who go there for help. I would not discourage you from paying the rates if you are aware, just spreading info.

Don't take it the wrong way. The date is still before.

i thought this whole forum thing was for good info? Good information based on facts? IMHO people can post what they want as long as there is some fact behind it and if you don't believe it or want to read it then :gtfo2:

Why not do the work yourself, and truly understand your vehicle, have fun at the sometime, and save money.


BTW...labor rate looks normal to me.

Look, I'm done. Before all this goes to bad feelings towards each other. I just want to make friends here and enjoy these cars together. If you think you can get it done cheaper else where and are happy there then lets call it the day and go driving.

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The labor rate really isn't that bad. The prices on the parts you could have done better, but thats on you, not them. They aren't gonna go out and order parts for you so cheap that it costs them money to do so.

It's not that you aren't finding the best deal, they are just taking advantage of you not knowing and eating the profit after overcharging (poor business practice..?)

Labor rate is normal for Atlanta sure, but not the hour quotes. We are not talking dealer shop manual rates (which are different story that we prob ought not get into where quoted rates are charged DESPITE how long it may take to get the job done). I like knowing that if I am paying good money to get something done, I am paying for what gets done, not what a book SAYS it needs to be done. I have that confidence at my shop, which remains unnamed here. Do you?

And yes, the quote WITH the rate hike is 24 days prior to when HKS implemented it so yes they are "detecting" upcoming rates and charging a month in advance or they are holding onto part installs for a month to get a higher rate. Re-read the posts SPOHN.

This is true. Some companies order so much bulk they get the best prices.

Who's this 18 post guy telling Trip to :gtfo2:? He may have the power of AK invoked against him if he's not careful.

Are you saying that 12/21/10 is Before 12/7/10:confused::confused::confused:

I never said people can't post what they feel like? the problem is when people compare shops? most people don't understand that prices differ, and what a shop may charge in a good part of town? compared to the not so great will differ also. I just think that if people don't like it don't do business there.

And save the gtfo for someone else. I have been a member for a little bit, and I think I have good reputation here for helping, and supporting this forum, so try acting like an adult and not like 15 year old. :tiphat:

I see what your point is. But I guess we summed it up though. Anybody can go to whatever shop they like. I choose them for many personal reasons a experience.

We are not here to dry-hump mods, we are here to talk facts about shops. Stop being an elitist just b/c you post a lot (or maybe head to overpriced shops for some afternoon fun?)

:bowrofl: yea 18posts, likely because i don't own a 370, but i have been around the VQ scene for over 5years and have DIY'ed about everything you can imagine, (ie my TT install and now building a block) not exactly a :newbie:

i know alot of the 370 guys and i really don't like seeing people getting taken advantage of so thats the man reason i post here, ive seen it happen to many times from this particular shop and im trying to warn the new crowd

Who is comparing shops? I dont see another comparison or a single reference to another shop here, we are talking about a single shop and their prices here.

OMFG doesn't anyone here actually work?

I paid full MSRP for all the stuff on my alarm because i ordered it through the installer because i needed it done the NEXT day. yea i could have saved a some money, but he provided a SERVICE and i paid him for it. The service forged is doing is not only just labor, they are spending time calling and sourcing all the parts. They aren't going to spend extra time shopping around to get you the absolute best price on a part. if you want a good deal on parts, don't buy parts from an installer.

Here's what forged should do right? They should charge just enough to pay their employees and overhead with 0 profit. they should charge customers their cost for everything, and then not make any money. after all, they aren't a business, they are just a shop that is there to lose money and install parts just for you as cheap as possible.

Peopel seem to confuse making a profit with taking advantage of someone. this is america. we are a capitalist country. if your business doesn't make money, you don't have a business. shops that make money are good shops. shops that can get away with charging a higher rate usually means that they are experienced enough and stand by their work enough to warrant the rate.

Go to some cheapo ghetto shop with an install issue and see what kind of customer service you get. i'm sure if there was an issue with anything they did at forged, they would stand behind their work and make it right.

Just saying in general.

wow :wtf2:

NO! I see what your saying now. It got confused in the pricing and the dates. Sorry. Took me a minute to see what you where stating.

Nope they should charge to make a REASONABLE, ETHICAL profit and call it a day for their efforts. Or they should overcharge and invite you to come and pay, lol.

I don't want to get to evolved in this one because I do agree, seems like some people are more out for personal attacks then actually talking about the issue at hand but I will say this;

I know a guy down the street from me who doesn't know anything about cars. I'm sure he would put an exhaust in for the price of a sandwich… Would I? No… Not everyone will be willing to pay the labor cost of Forged, ok I understand that, however no one is forcing anyone do get it done there…

Dealers charge more because well, they are the dealer but also because their staff are trained on those specific vehicles…

You could have but a Kia, did you?

wtf we're talkinga bout a couple hundred bucks here..... yea, you want to get the best price, but if you want quality work done, you have to pay for it.

you get what you pay for. if a shop charges a lot, and you are to cheap or can't afford it, go somewhere else. don't drag their name through the mud.

IF you have a mutually agreed upon RATE/Price, and one person is too misinformed, lazy, or stupid to do their own research then they deserve to pay for.

Time= money. if you spend your own time researching to get the best price, you can save money. if you walk in and say 'ok i'll pay whatever' then you pay a premium, but you didn't spend hours scouring the internet for the best price.

Having competitive prices is alot different that making no profit, theyre is a profit margin with every product. Being competitive means matching or atleast being close to other shops prices, like you said all shop have to make profit, so this means that being competitive would still yield profit. But SOME SHOPS cough cough, like to charge EVEN MORE than the MSRP or competitive price because they feel that they can get away with it since they have so many :nutswinger: and they have to buy race gas for that GTR every weekend:eek:

For those of us who have other things to pay for, I'll gladly drag a QUOTE through the mud. The shop can do as they wish but again, forums are for knowledge, if you cant hack it, head on out. Stop being a fanboy and defending somewhere you go for your work and accept the facts.

IBTL

Shops are all different. some are big some are small. The bigger shops have higher overhead to cover...hence the higher prices

I don't know about that. America was founded on charging what you want. Don't like it don't pay.

Thank You.

caught me. i drive on out to Georgia from NY every time i have work done on my car.

Some shops are cheaper because they haven't updated their equipment in 20 yrs and don't send their mechanics to get certifications. That gets expensive and the cost is passed to the customer. If you don't want to pay their rates shop around and get new estimates.

This shop is tiny, their overhead is elsewhere...

Wow. Listen, Forged Performance is a business and they have every right to charge whatever they want to for their products and services. If you don't agree with their pricing, then go to another shop. It's obvious that Forged is doing something right because people continue to use their shop and you better believe the customers that go there shop around before settling on a shop to do business with.

Ethical profit? You've got to be kidding me. This is a capitalist society where we aim to make as high a profit as market conditions allow. There is absolutely no need whatsoever to drag a shop's name through the mud simply because you don't agree with their pricing... just choose another shop and get on with your life.

I was at a diner the other day. They had a gumball machine and it cost 50 cents for a gumball. WTF i know those gumballs hardly cost anything! PROTEST! whos with me?

Not commenting on the capitalist stuff honestly, just saying some of us follow ethical lines of business practice, others do not. If you are cool with that, go to where you choose.

The other day I bought 12 bottles of water for $0.99 the next day a vending machine wanted to charge me a $1.00 for ONE

Bitches :shakes head:

I take it you are a :nutswinger: for a different shop?

In business, you make as much money as possible. Simple as that. If a business is feeling charitable, they'll donate to a charity and get a tax write off, not some cheap azz who wants parts installed at cost.