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Chuck33079 09-30-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2510648)
When I look around me, much of the part time jobs are taken by young people. The reason for so many part time jobs available is because the employers don't want to be responsible for paying health care, so they hire people to work for less than 30 hours a week.

Now do we expect those part timers or even low wage full timers to contribute $150 to $400 per month(depending on state) so the ACA can work & fix the old & sick people?

Yes. Thats the grand plan. That's why companies are being pushed to offer plans for everybody. If not, individuals are to buy their own plan or pay a penalty.

It's a bad way to solve the problem. It was an admirable idea way back when it was being discussed, but then the insurance lobbyists coughed up enough coin to get the law written in such a way as to force people to buy their product. Medical costs are out of control, and something has to be done. The ACA is so far from that solution it's not even funny.

andre12031948 09-30-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2510652)
Yes. Thats the grand plan. That's why companies are being pushed to offer plans for everybody. If not, individuals are to buy their own plan or pay a penalty.

It's a bad way to solve the problem. It was an admirable idea way back when it was being discussed, but then the insurance lobbyists coughed up enough coin to get the law written in such a way as to force people to buy their product. Medical costs are out of control, and something has to be done. The ACA is so far from that solution it's not even funny.

Thanks, I just don't think the insurance companies wrote this plan. WHO DID??? Why not just let the citizens & companies have access to ALL the health insurance companies that we have. One reason costs went up was because some states had very few or even just ONE insurance company that was permitted to sell ins. in that state. Why not competition like in the car insurance field. Problem solved.

Chuck33079 09-30-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2510668)
Thanks, I just don't think the insurance companies wrote this plan. WHO DID??? Why not just let the citizens & companies have access to ALL the health insurance companies that we have. One reason costs went up was because some states had very few or even just ONE insurance company that was permitted to sell ins. in that state. Why not competition like in the car insurance field. Problem solved.

:confused: An insurance exchange is a part of the ACA.

Correct, the insurance companies didn't actually write the act. They just gave gobs of money to the people that did.

fonzo179 09-30-2013 05:29 PM

A little update for everyone supporting our Armed Forces during the pending government shutdown.
And on a personal note, thank you to everyone whom got p!ssed-the-fvck-off at the possibility that our Troops in the sh!t (deployed) would be fighting/serving/in harm's way making no money.
Thumbs way up for Patriotism :tup::tup:

Congress Agrees: Military Will Be Paid

Chuck33079 09-30-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fonzo179 (Post 2510758)
A little update for everyone supporting our Armed Forces during the pending government shutdown.
And on a personal note, thank you to everyone whom got p!ssed-the-fvck-off at the possibility that our Troops in the sh!t (deployed) would be fighting/serving/in harm's way making no money.
Thumbs way up for Patriotism :tup::tup:

Congress Agrees: Military Will Be Paid

That's awesome. It's really sad that it took until the 11th hour, but its awesome it got handled.

andre12031948 09-30-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2510714)
:confused: An insurance exchange is a part of the ACA.

Correct, the insurance companies didn't actually write the act. They just gave gobs of money to the people that did.

Why didn't we just permit ALL insurance companies to be available to ALL states. Is the government now "the middle man" ?????

I don't understand why the government is needed.
The government wants the post office to go private & the health insurance to be run by the government.

You just place a stamp on & mail it, yet the post office loses billions. Obamacare will be 1,000 times more complicated, but will be run by the government that has a problem delivering a letter. Freaking weird!!!

Also every year it seems like we need to raise the debt limit or we'll have to shut down the government. How does Obamacare get the blame for a shut down this year? Aren't we out of money now???? Why can't we get our act together and spend only what we earn. Cut the number of government leaders in half if you have to. We can't print more money, tax more, & raise the debt forever. People & corporations that did that would be in jail. Am I missing something? Please let me know, because I find this absolutely crazy that the once greatest country in the world is going/running this way....

///PureSwank 09-30-2013 06:46 PM

All United States Border Patrol agents will be forloughed but expected to work their operations either way. All non essential administrative positions will be without a job and pay. Over 700, 000 people.

I wanna take this time to thank Illuminati Puppet Obama and the satanical government elites. The 1% who make more money then the rest of the 99% put together.

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H2O_Doc 09-30-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2510617)
One of the problems is that Man now has the ability to circumvent Darwin (at least for a little while). We have increased lifespans and reduced mortality rates to the point where we are outgrowing what society and the environment can sustain. We have created a bubble that will eventually burst. Same with the economy.

Wasn't evolution banned in Arkansas? It's not just your car that makes you a stand out in the Razorback State, is it????

Regnat populus!


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