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6spd 05-29-2012 06:32 AM

My intro to portrait/modeling photography
 
I recently decided to try my hand at portrait and model photographing. Invested in some lighting gear and am really sorry I didnt sooner! bri7synyster is my model. We both need some constructive criticisms on the composure of the shots, modeling techniques, etc. This was our first shoot together.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6730_S.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6732_S.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6734_S.jpg

My Favorite:
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6738_S.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6748_S.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6754_S.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6761_S.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6774_S.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6799_S.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6808_S.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_6813_S.jpg

Bri7Synyster 05-29-2012 08:52 AM

I thought you were only posting a few, silly goose. :*

TreeSemdyZee 05-29-2012 11:01 AM

Nice.

Check out Alvin Nguyen Photography on the web and Facebook.

He's a young guy that I "met" on my350z. He has hit the fashion world and skyrocketed. He does some amazing stuff and is very open to questions.

Alvin Nguyen

http://www.facebook.com/AlvinNguyenPhotography

Not sure where you're from, but he's originally from Seattle.

m4a1mustang 05-29-2012 11:04 AM

My only critique is that they aren't nudes. And by nudes I mean you, Jay. :bowrofl:

Seriously, they look good to me. I think there are some tweaks you can do to make the lighting more appealing but I'll leave that to the more experienced guys to critique. I'm really just getting started in taking some serious photos myself. :tup:

6spd 05-29-2012 12:33 PM

Awe thats so sweet steve! Lol

I'm gonna check out alvins work when I get home from work later. Thanks, I appreciate the reference!

shadoquad 05-29-2012 12:37 PM

Only critique I have is this photo

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Not a fan of the pose, sort of an awkward angle.

But everything else looks great.

Bri7Synyster 05-29-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1742881)
Only critique I have is this photo

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Not a fan of the pose, sort of an awkward angle.

But everything else looks great.

I agree. I was kinda pissed that he posted it. I hate my profile. Lol

shadoquad 05-29-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bri7Synyster (Post 1742884)
I agree. I was kinda pissed that he posted it. I hate my profile. Lol

Well, if he had hired an attractive model, it might not have been an issue.

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Kidding, kidding, please don't hurt me :roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

6spd 05-29-2012 04:40 PM

Oh I can wait to see her reaction to that!!

m4a1mustang 05-29-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 1743365)
Oh I can wait to see her reaction to that!!

You should put her behind the camera for a shoot.

http://static.moviefanatic.com/image...-zoolander.jpg

shadoquad 05-29-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1743383)
You should put her behind the camera for a shoot.

http://static.moviefanatic.com/image...-zoolander.jpg

Cool story, Hansel!

phelan 05-29-2012 04:50 PM

steve's right, the lighting is a little off, but more experienced photographers can comment. esp this one i think can be brightened in the foreground with a separate light source (the background is a bit overexposed for my liking too):
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my least favorite is this one:
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the odd angle and the lighting throw me completely off, like my eyes are drifting to the lower left because i just feel like everything should be falling off a cliff at that angle. i think there's some experimentation to be had in portrait photography, but sometimes the basic frames go the farthest.

overall though, pretty good. :)

6spd 05-29-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1743406)
steve's right, the lighting is a little off, but more experienced photographers can comment. esp this one i think can be brightened in the foreground with a separate light source (the background is a bit overexposed for my liking too):
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my least favorite is this one:
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the odd angle and the lighting throw me completely off, like my eyes are drifting to the lower left because i just feel like everything should be falling off a cliff at that angle. i think there's some experimentation to be had in portrait photography, but sometimes the basic frames go the farthest.

overall though, pretty good. :)

Yeah, you are exactly right about both. The first has lighting issues, and the second you are dead on, looks like everything is falling off a cliff. I should leave the crooked angles for the car!

I need more time behind the camera with portraits, but for my first time out, especially with new equipment, Im pretty confident I can only get better from here.

6spd 05-29-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1743383)
You should put her behind the camera for a shoot.

http://static.moviefanatic.com/image...-zoolander.jpg

She wants to. Ill have to put my cool shades on...



And maybe only the shades!

m4a1mustang 05-29-2012 05:26 PM

:excited:

Bri7Synyster 05-29-2012 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1743489)
:excited:

Oh I'll so have him do it. I'll pm you the results ;)

m4a1mustang 05-29-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bri7Synyster (Post 1743629)
Oh I'll so have him do it. I'll pm you the results ;)

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

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Giggity

nobodeuno 05-30-2012 06:13 PM

Cute girl!

Bartstar Photography

Cmike2780 05-31-2012 11:02 PM

They look good, but could be better. It looks like on some shots she's in a shaded area, but she's a bit underexposed while others are in the open. On a sunny day like this, the light is really harsh and isn't the most flattering if it's direct sunlight. There's a lot of hard shadows and overexposed/washed areas. Its a great source, but you need to control the light. There are a few ways to "light" her up properly with softer light and get rid of the hard shadows.

http://images1.opticsplanet.com/640-...-ll-lr3551.jpg

-The first is a reflector. You need to move your model into a shaded area. Then use the reflector to control the light that hits the model. It's basically a shiny, collapsible reflector on one side and white on the other. You bounce the direct sunlight back to the model, but the result will be spread more softly. You also control how is and where the light hits, which can make or break the shote. I personally like Lastolite. They come in different sizes.
http://origin.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/...=1298876358000

-The second approach is a collapsible diffuser. This is a bit more cumbersome and requires setting the diffuser up high and you will probably need a helper. The advantage is not having to move to shaded area with a large enough diffuser.

-The third approach is to move to a shaded area and use a strobe/flash. Sunlight is great though, so why not use it.

6spd 06-01-2012 06:24 AM

I was using a single flash, off camera, with a 24x24" softbox. Looking back, I could have used to expose for the background better, upped the flash output, and/or used both of my flashes. You are right though, there are a lot of slightly under/over exposed areas in some of the shots. The time of day was harsh in that spot too, lots of shadows and bright spot spots, so getting everything exposed right was difficult.

Cmike2780 06-01-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 1748057)
I was using a single flash, off camera, with a 24x24" softbox. Looking back, I could have used to expose for the background better, upped the flash output, and/or used both of my flashes. You are right though, there are a lot of slightly under/over exposed areas in some of the shots. The time of day was harsh in that spot too, lots of shadows and bright spot spots, so getting everything exposed right was difficult.

Yup, that's kind of what I'm getting at. The composition is good, but the light needs to be more even. If you're gonna use a flash, it needs to pretty much overpower sunlight to expose properly. Your aim is to under-expose available light to an extent and then use the flash to pull the highlights out.

6spd 06-01-2012 03:49 PM

ok, thats the explanation that explains a lot to me! Thank you!

SailFree 06-01-2012 08:22 PM

#7 shows the problem of photography in bright sun. The dreaded white nose tip. Open shade is best, or use strong reflector and reposition model so sun doesn't hit nose tip.

Bri7Synyster 06-02-2012 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SailFree (Post 1749794)
#7 shows the problem of photography in bright sun. The dreaded white nose tip. Open shade is best, or use strong reflector and reposition model so sun doesn't hit nose tip.

Oh nose! You're right!

SailFree 06-02-2012 09:16 PM

Bri7Synyster, you are a quite pretty woman and the photos are mostly quite reasonably done. Thanks much for having them posted here.

SailFree 06-02-2012 09:19 PM

CMike2780
"He who laughs last didn't get it"

Fine song by Mark Knopfler called "The Last Laugh," duet with Van Morrison. Nice song.

SailFree 06-02-2012 09:21 PM

"I need more time behind the camera with portraits, but for my first time out, especially with new equipment, Im pretty confident I can only get better from here."

6spd, you are already better than 99% of the people out there with cameras. Minor problems can be easily corrected. See comment re photo #7, for example.

alcheng 06-04-2012 02:17 AM

I wish you can blur the background a lot more, especially the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th, the background has so much color and 'stuffs', blur them.

And yes, the pose in the 9th is a bit awkward.

Trial and error, keep going man, have fun!!! :)

Coon-azz 06-04-2012 05:50 AM

I really don't have much to contribute to the technical aspect here. However, since I have no vested interest and I will gain nothing here-can I say "beautiful eyes!" :tiphat:

6spd 06-04-2012 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SailFree (Post 1751227)
"I need more time behind the camera with portraits, but for my first time out, especially with new equipment, Im pretty confident I can only get better from here."

6spd, you are already better than 99% of the people out there with cameras. Minor problems can be easily corrected. See comment re photo #7, for example.

True. Being focused on other issues at the time, I missed some of the more fine details. In time though. And thank you!
Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 1752765)
I wish you can blur the background a lot more, especially the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th, the background has so much color and 'stuffs', blur them.

And yes, the pose in the 9th is a bit awkward.

Trial and error, keep going man, have fun!!! :)

Yeah, I really wish I wasnt limited by the stock lens. I dont like to do background blur myself either so I think ill have this issue for a while until I can get a more capable lens. Im still debating which would be my best choice for this type of photography.

Cmike2780 06-04-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 1752807)
True. Being focused on other issues at the time, I missed some of the more fine details. In time though. And thank you!

Yeah, I really wish I wasnt limited by the stock lens. I dont like to do background blur myself either so I think ill have this issue for a while until I can get a more capable lens. Im still debating which would be my best choice for this type of photography.

For portraits, it's better to go with a 50mm or higher to avoid unflattering distortion. If you've ever seen them do portraits, it's usually with a long lens with the photographer about 8-10 feet away. Faster lenses with large apertures obviously make it easier, but tele lenses with constant large apertures are usually pricey. DOF and bokeh can also be achieved by controlling the distances between the subject and what you want blurred. I've used this calculator in the past to give me a general idea. You can also do the blur in post, but its better to do it with the lens.

alcheng 06-04-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 1752807)
True. Being focused on other issues at the time, I missed some of the more fine details. In time though. And thank you!

Yeah, I really wish I wasnt limited by the stock lens. I dont like to do background blur myself either so I think ill have this issue for a while until I can get a more capable lens. Im still debating which would be my best choice for this type of photography.


Turn the aperture as large as possible and zoom it as much as possible, that will create a very very good depth of field.

For portrait, I will suggest a range of 50mm to 105mm with constant f/2.8, the aperture could be larger with a prime lens.

What is the brand of SLR you are using??

rebe945 06-04-2012 01:17 PM

Nice
 
You have a nice Euro look. Exotic.:pics:

shadoquad 06-04-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rebe945 (Post 1753339)
You have a nice Euro look

Translation: you're a white chick!


:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

6spd 06-04-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1753114)
For portraits, it's better to go with a 50mm or higher to avoid unflattering distortion. If you've ever seen them do portraits, it's usually with a long lens with the photographer about 8-10 feet away. Faster lenses with large apertures obviously make it easier, but tele lenses with constant large apertures are usually pricey. DOF and bokeh can also be achieved by controlling the distances between the subject and what you want blurred. I've used this calculator in the past to give me a general idea. You can also do the blur in post, but its better to do it with the lens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 1753288)
Turn the aperture as large as possible and zoom it as much as possible, that will create a very very good depth of field.

For portrait, I will suggest a range of 50mm to 105mm with constant f/2.8, the aperture could be larger with a prime lens.

What is the brand of SLR you are using??

Im using a canon T2i with the kit lense. I really want a 50mm f/2.8 prime. The kit lense just doesnt get the desired DOF for either my car shots or my portraits. All of those shots, save 1, used whatever the largest aperture was for the zoom length.

6spd 06-04-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1753345)
Translation: you're a white chick!


:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

:bowrofl:

Cmike2780 06-04-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 1753375)
Im using a canon T2i with the kit lense. I really want a 50mm f/2.8 prime. The kit lense just doesnt get the desired DOF for either my car shots or my portraits. All of those shots, save 1, used whatever the largest aperture was for the zoom length.

Yeah, most kit lens only drop down to f/3.5@18mm or f/5.6 @ 55mm. think Canon sells a relatively inexpensive 50mm f/1.8 or 'normal' lens that's supposed to be pretty good. I want to say it's around $100-200. It get's tricky when shooting cars though, since you usually have to be pretty far back to get everything in the frame. Not a big deal if you're doing a shoot, but it's limiting when you're at a meet or car show.

6spd 06-04-2012 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1753477)
Yeah, most kit lens only drop down to f/3.5@18mm or f/5.6 @ 55mm. think Canon sells a relatively inexpensive 50mm f/1.8 or 'normal' lens that's supposed to be pretty good. I want to say it's around $100-200. It get's tricky when shooting cars though, since you usually have to be pretty far back to get everything in the frame. Not a big deal if you're doing a shoot, but it's limiting when you're at a meet or car show.

yeah, I never do any meets or shows.

m4a1mustang 06-04-2012 02:27 PM

I love the cheapo 50 f 1.8!

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6spd 06-04-2012 03:22 PM

Very nice Steve!


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