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Red__Zed 10-30-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz (Post 1989917)
5.5 months? really?

I'm not sure where folks are getting the 5.5 months from, but again, I've been back-and-forth between SS_Firehawk and his dad, as each of them direct me to the other for resolution. I gave each of them a good faith chance to resolve, and that took 4 months or so (since I didn't receive the product until the end of May, and then spent 3 weeks straight traveling and not examining the exhaust), which brings us to a few weeks ago, when I intended to post. At that point, I was moving/changing jobs and honestly forgot to follow up. I sent a final reminder to SS & his dad about a week ago, which is what I imagine led to his prickliness towards me over this last week, and then posted after another week of non-response.

Z_ealot 10-30-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1989946)
I'm not sure where folks are getting the 5.5 months from, but again, I've been back-and-forth between SS_Firehawk and his dad, as each of them direct me to the other for resolution. I gave each of them a good faith chance to resolve, and that took 4 months or so (since I didn't receive the product until the end of May, and then spent 3 weeks straight traveling and not examining the exhaust), which brings us to a few weeks ago, when I intended to post. At that point, I was moving/changing jobs and honestly forgot to follow up. I sent a final reminder to SS & his dad about a week ago, which is what I imagine led to his prickliness towards me over this last week, and then posted after another week of non-response.

so basically you just admitted that you dropped the ball on your end as well..sorry to see things go south for you, but honestly the best way to get your problems solved in these types of situations is to constantly be in contact with the person/company you purchase a product from no matter what your circumstances are.

Red__Zed 10-30-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 1990172)
so basically you just admitted that you dropped the ball on your end as well..sorry to see things go south for you, but honestly the best way to get your problems solved in these types of situations is to constantly be in contact with the person/company you purchase a product from no matter what your circumstances are.

4 months after receipt I think all was already lost.

SS_Firehawk 10-30-2012 09:55 PM

Now your lying. I cleaned my email box last week after premium membership expired. After you installed it and saying it was fine, I assumed you were happy. You did not attempt to email me once. I'm not a Company, I'm not going to reach out for a survey of the sales process or what you thought of the product.I gave you my phone number, my fathers phone number, and my email. I also did not take your money, you sent it directly to his paypal. I still don't know how you "lost" anything. You bought something for half price and it works. the only issue was the bent hanger, anything else you claimed was not passed on to me or my Father. Hell, I don't even know what the time limit for paypal claims are. Stop playing the victim, your attempting to manipulate an audience. You have no case. I'm sorry the packaging was shitty, but it's not my job to make sure he packaged it right, only to find a buyer and try to make the transaction smooth. Just so you know, I did not get paid for this, I got no kickback, just a thank you. So much for trying to take care of this like normal people do.

Edit: I'll be working for the next 12-13 hours so if you email me your number or email me at ssfirehawk@gmail we can take this offline.

edub370 10-30-2012 10:14 PM

Man can we close this thread... I hate seeing two members goin at it in front of the whole forum. Maybe zed and ss can somehow figure something out via email or pm. But since both sides of the story aren't completely clear, its probably best to not start a civil war on this thread

Red__Zed 10-30-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1990277)
Now your lying. I cleaned my email box last week after premium membership expired. After you installed it and saying it was fine, I assumed you were happy. You did not attempt to email me once. I'm not a Company, I'm not going to reach out for a survey of the sales process or what you thought of the product.I gave you my phone number, my fathers phone number, and my email. I also did not take your money, you sent it directly to his paypal. I still don't know how you "lost" anything. You bought something for half price and it works. the only issue was the bent hanger, anything else you claimed was not passed on to me or my Father. Hell, I don't even know what the time limit for paypal claims are. Stop playing the victim, your attempting to manipulate an audience. You have no case. I'm sorry the packaging was shitty, but it's not my job to make sure he packaged it right, only to find a buyer and try to make the transaction smooth. Just so you know, I did not get paid for this, I got no kickback, just a thank you. So much for trying to take care of this like normal people do.

Edit: I'll be working for the next 12-13 hours so if you email me your number or email me at ssfirehawk@gmail we can take this offline.


How about you pm me instead. I'd rather keep a record on the forum.


I did mention the loose baffling in a pm. Claiming i didnt is a blatant lie. I've forwarded to triples to confirm, since I can't post. He can confirm.


You also gave me no contact info. I have your parents email because I got it off PayPal, and your dad hasn't been helpful.


If you want to take no responsibility for arranging the sale, I'll change my thread title to recommending against doing business with your dad if that makes you happier :|



EDIT: ok, apparently I need to wait for ak to approve/confirm the PM

NitrousZ34 10-31-2012 05:30 AM

You should have contacted AK and exchanged PM's first. So that way if it was concluded that the seller shouldn't be dealt with anymore, it could have gone to the sticky thread. Now your just making SS_Firehawk look like the bad guy by ruining his reputation. What if he comes back to the states and decides he wants to sell his parts personally? Now he can't because people are going to fear being sent a "broken" and poorly packaged product. You guys need to stop acting like little kids and take this offline so people's reps arn't ruined.

SS_Firehawk 10-31-2012 02:33 PM

Mods, if you see no merit for this thread, can you delete this. I've already proposed generous resolution through pm's.

Red, in reality, I owe you nothing, at best, an apology, which I refuse until you acknowledge that I've done nothing wrong. I kept communication until it was installed and everything was G2G. I've submitted my offer, I think it is more than reasonable. I received no benefit for the transaction, so either way you look at it, I'm going out of my way because I empathize with you regarding the packaging. If I had known, I would have advised him of a better method. This whole ordeal blindsided me and is absolutely unfair, unethical, and disappointing with how you went about it. I thought you were better than this.

threeseventy 10-31-2012 02:35 PM

^+1

Red__Zed 10-31-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1991609)
Mods, if you see no merit for this thread, can you delete this. I've already proposed generous resolution through pm's.

Red, in reality, I owe you nothing, at best, an apology, which I refuse until you acknowledge that I've done nothing wrong. I kept communication until it was installed and everything was G2G. I've submitted my offer, I think it is more than reasonable. I received no benefit for the transaction, so either way you look at it, I'm going out of my way because I empathize with you regarding the packaging. If I had known, I would have advised him of a better method. This whole ordeal blindsided me and is absolutely unfair, unethical, and disappointing with how you went about it. I thought you were better than this.

If you refuse to acknowledge any responsibility, please put me in touch with your dad so he can resolve it.

joshs09slvrZ 10-31-2012 03:21 PM

Lol

pfdaxe 10-31-2012 03:36 PM

....and this is in the "For Sale" section because???

Isn't this dispute the reason for the first sticky in this section???

:confused::confused:

SS_Firehawk 10-31-2012 10:20 PM

As per my agreement with Red_Zed I am apologizing for calling him a liar with regards to the damaged baffling within the muffler. I acknowledge that the packing was much less than described to me when I inquired about it before shipment. I was dismayed to learn of the damage to the exhaust during shipment. I'll take responsibility for calling the exhaust "polished". They are obviously very clean, but it is not polished as described. For that I publicly apologize.

I did not see any pm's in my inbox and was not making an attempt to avoid this situation. Even in the midst of deploying back to AFG, I would have gone out of my way to help. So to clarify, I did not fall off the face of the earth, I'm unfortunately on the other side. This packaging is not indicative of anything I would attempt to sell. I ask that judgement be refrained with the packaging.

Lastly I only sold one product on this forum and was done locally. I definitely would have preferred more dialogue with Red_Zed before this got blown up into a full on Forum Soap Opera.

Your turn...

Mai-z 11-01-2012 07:20 AM

Killed with kindness...

dastaco 11-01-2012 07:25 AM

Uh, this is the internet. I had better not see anymore level headed responsible action from your two. Get back to fighting, insult someone's dog. Tell the other person how rich you are and brag about your 900hp Z/ GTR/ Lambo. :happydance:


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