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JerWA 09-14-2010 12:10 PM

FS/T: Meisterschaft exhaust (WA) - SOLD
 
SOLD.

Greetings, and apologies if this is outside the rules (I checked first, really).

I just picked up a used '09 370Z with a bunch of work already done to it. One of the things is the Meisterschaft exhaust. I don't know yet what parts exactly, nor do I know how many miles are on the exhaust (car just turned 16k). I do, however, know that it is insanely loud lol. :eek:

Looking to sell or trade the exhaust for something tamer. FI or Stillen? Looking for something that sounds good but isn't 4x as loud as stock.

Pretty sure my system is SUS, and unless I'm misjudging how loud it is it's probably the full system and possibly test pipes. I'll get it up on some ramps and pics taken as soon as time permits, or ASAP if someone is seriously interested.

If it's got HFCs I'll want to keep those, but the rest can go (and the whole thing if it's got test pipes). Willing to trade straight up for another system that gives good results, like FI and Stillen. Have to be local-ish to Seattle for that, and if you've got the tools and skill to do the swap I'd be willing to throw some money into the deal too for you to do the actual swap.

Let me know if you'd like more information.

Red__Zed 09-14-2010 12:16 PM

What would you sell it outright for?

JerWA 09-14-2010 02:15 PM

I need to find out exactly what parts it is before I can price it, and there would be some lead time because I'll need to have something else lined up to go in it's place as this is my daily driver. The numbers I talk about below are assuming it's the full cat-back system (i.e. y pipe, mid pipe, mufflers). Having looked at it briefly I'm about 90% sure it's got the mid pipes, but I really need to get it up on some ramps to know for sure.

The full SUS system with tips is ~$2,100 new. As long as it's in good condition I'd probably be looking for about $1,500 for the whole cat-back system (and test pipes if it's got them). If I get under the car and it's all scratched up or anything I will come down in my ask.

And as mentioned I'm willing to take a lot less than that in trade. A used FI TDX setup with HFCs (or equivalent like the Stillen), plus I'll pay you for the removal/install and throw in my test pipes. Or, if I have HFCs instead of test pipes, I'd be willing to trade it for an FI TDX cat-back setup installed.

To me it's more important to avoid down time than it is to make money on this deal. If someone has a TDX setup for sale cheap then I might be able to let this go for cheaper.

Thanks for the reply. :)

Jamaica 09-14-2010 02:34 PM

why do you want to get rid if it?

Raven 09-14-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerWA (Post 720603)
I do, however, know that it is insanely loud lol. :eek:


i cant imagine how loud it would be with test pipes on.....

m4a1mustang 09-14-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 720897)
why do you want to get rid if it?

He said because it's too loud.

GLWS!

Jamaica 09-14-2010 02:46 PM

Oh man i love that exhaust.

Big J 09-14-2010 02:48 PM

How much? I love this exhaust!

JerWA 09-14-2010 03:08 PM

It does sound good, but the volume level is indeed why I'm looking to sell. I just don't want that much attention in my daily drive, especially since I like to drive aggressively. Looking to keep the performance level, or close to it, with a little more stealth is all. :)

See above posts for guesstimate pricing. Now that I see there's some interest I'll try to get it up off the ground soon so I can take pics and have an exact parts list. Hopefully I'll have some more info for you guys by this weekend at the latest. If all else fails I can take a bunch of pics as it sits and stitch them together to show the full system.

:)

JerWA 09-14-2010 09:35 PM

Here's some pictures I took with my cellphone. Looks like stock cats, which I find hard to believe, but what do I know. System is from the cats-back, and looks fairly new and in good condition, so I'm thinking $1,200ish (plus shipping, but I'd greatly prefer local and someone who can install heh) complete.

For trades, I'd be most interested in the FI TDX setup, HFCs included, and I'd be willing to trade straight across for that. Stillen too. Seems like from previous posts that's fair. Willing to sweeten the deal a bit if you can remove/install.

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...20/4186135.jpg http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...20/4186136.jpg http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...20/4186137.jpg http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...20/4186138.jpg http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...20/4186139.jpg

Jamaica 09-14-2010 10:51 PM

to bad you werent closer

destinyZ 09-15-2010 12:37 AM

GREAT DEAL! shouldn't take long. I ordered coilovers last night so sadly i dont have enough leeway with my money for it. 1 more day i had to wait for a great deal on here for exhuast... GLWS!

res0zsfa 09-15-2010 03:01 AM

pm sent

JerWA 09-16-2010 10:35 AM

PMs replied to. Just FYI, I can't afford to buy a new system at the moment so an outright sale isn't an option yet. I can do a trade as soon as the work can be arranged.

And to clarify, if you want to trade your FI or Stillen exhaust, I'd want HFCs in that deal. I don't mind used, and they show up here around $350 on a fairly regular basis.

Holliday 09-17-2010 06:40 AM

Hey JerWa,

The previous owner might have gutted the cats. Does is smell really bad? If not and you have H2O coming out the tips they should be good still.

GLWS :tup:

F1loco 09-17-2010 06:45 AM

CATs don't surprise me much...been playing with my system. TPs and no real change. Took the rear can and holy crap...it got loud fast. Even my NISMO must be packed with 10lbs of crap to silence the VQ....

JerWA 09-18-2010 06:19 PM

Bumpity! Aaaaaand... here's a video I just took of it.
:happydance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrUr2AenhBQ

Nikon FM 09-18-2010 08:58 PM

Tempting….

I have FI resonated test pipes and CBE with 18" carbon fiber resonators.

I would want to keep the test pipes though. The stock cats are crappy…….. seriously heavy and rob power.

I'm about 30 minutes away.

JerWA 09-18-2010 10:05 PM

Nikon FM: I'd be willing to do that trade if you'd be willing to go halves on HFCs. That'd be around $175 here on the forums, assuming someone had some up for sale.

Let me know what you think. And you can, of course, come check out the system and hear it in person since you're so close. I'd be interested in hearing yours as well, since FI says the resonated test pipes are pretty quiet so it'd probably be pretty close to how it would sound with HFCs.

Is there a reason you're wanting out of the FI system?

Nizmo0533 09-18-2010 10:53 PM

i guess you bought my car!! congrat!!!! and have Stillen G3 intake + nav and sub right?

Nikon FM 09-18-2010 11:30 PM

Loud or not I love the sound. What makes me hesitate is whether the performance would be similar.

Perhaps we should meet half way so you can hear the FI setup. Redmond?

JerWA 09-19-2010 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nizmo0533 (Post 727087)
i guess you bought my car!! congrat!!!! and have Stillen G3 intake + nav and sub right?

With the NISMO body kit. If so, yep lol. Glad you're on here, was wanting to ask if any tuning had been done lol. I'll shoot you a PM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikon FM (Post 727120)
Loud or not I love the sound. What makes me hesitate is whether the performance would be similar.

Perhaps we should meet half way so you can hear the FI setup. Redmond?

I haven't seen any dyno #'s on the GT Haus stuff. You get as big a gain from the cats as you do the whole rest of the system though, so I doubt there'd be a huge difference either way for you since you're already on test pipes. From other threads on this site it sounds like the FI and GTS will be pretty close performance wise, because they're both about the most you can gain from CBE only (i.e. ~20 rwhp). Maybe you'd gain a few hp, but I'm sure you wouldn't lose any. There's gotta be a reason people are willing to spend $2,100 for the cheaper version (stainless, i.e. this one) of this exhaust!

It really comes down to personal preference. For me, I just don't want to advertise quite so much to the cops that I drive somewhat "spiritedly" on my way to/from work. ;)

Edit: Oh yeah, I work in Redmond so that's a good spot. I live north of there, so whichever works.

destinyZ 09-19-2010 11:35 AM

I think F.I. did there dyno with the HFC or TP because it comes with the order when you select on there sight what it is that you want. pretty sure the CBE for our car nets around 8-10hp and the test pipes around 10-12hp correct me if im wrong. idk anything about high flow cats but im sure its in the ball park. As for performance it should be close.

good luck on the trade, hope it all works out.

Nikon FM 09-19-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by destinyZ (Post 727404)
I think F.I. did there dyno with the HFC or TP because it comes with the order when you select on there sight what it is that you want. pretty sure the CBE for our car nets around 8-10hp and the test pipes around 10-12hp correct me if im wrong. idk anything about high flow cats but im sure its in the ball park. As for performance it should be close.

good luck on the trade, hope it all works out.

Looking on the FI dyno charts the HFC versus TP are ~3-4 less WHP. I like FI because they were quick to post the performance of all their products. Not too many other brands post numbers.

JerWA 09-19-2010 01:57 PM

From what I've read the CBE is worth ~20 by itself for the top names for the full setup, y pipes, mid, and muffler. FI is at 20, Stillen at 18, etc. Neither system includes test pipes or cats. HFCs are over $500 new from FI, and definitely not counted in the $1,200ish system price. I assume their #'s do not includes test pipes or cats, but could be wrong.

GT Haus is $2,100ish without test pipes or cats.

I've been getting most of my info from here: 370Z Exhaust.com - Sound clips, photos + places to buy
They have dyno #'s on a lot of the setups, but even they don't have GT Haus #'s.

PS: Previous owner of the car got in touch (see earlier in the thread) and says the Meisterschaft system I'm trying to sell/trade only has 3k miles on it. It does look clean still, so I can believe it. Might have some dyno #'s too, but they would include the Stillen G3 intake and tuning, so I'm not sure how valid they would be against what's posted elsewhere. :(

daleks 09-23-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nizmo0533 (Post 727087)
i guess you bought my car!! congrat!!!! and have Stillen G3 intake + nav and sub right?

Do you live around the North end? I keep seeing a white NISMO in the same spot.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikon FM (Post 727120)
Loud or not I love the sound. What makes me hesitate is whether the performance would be similar.

Perhaps we should meet half way so you can hear the FI setup. Redmond?

My two cents is that the Y-pipe collector is going to make the biggest difference. The diameter on the Meisterschaft system is significantly larger than that of the OEM setup. The FI setup is true dual, no? The muffler section of the Meisterschaft system isn't super restrictive, hence the noise.

The diameter of the Meisterschaft mid-pipe however is fairly close to stock, at least compared to that of my OEM NISMO exhaust. It does remove the mid-pipe silencers too though. I'd guess you'll be within a few HP of the FI.

As you said, when you're at the track you're staying in the fat part of the torque band. That's when the Meisterschaft system truly picks up. You'll be in the upper half of the RPM range mostly and the sound is just glorious at that end. I scared quite a few people in the I-90 tunnel when I had the system on my car.

Nikon FM 09-23-2010 10:40 PM

I love to down shift in the I90 tunnel. Great acoustics :tup:

tjlazer 10-14-2010 03:33 PM

Did you guys do the trade?

JerWA 10-15-2010 03:40 AM

Nope. I'm still interested in trading the system for something quieter. I'm thinking a Gemini + HFCs might be a good setup for me. Probably the same HP (vs my stock cats now compared to HFCs + the Gemini which is less hp than my system) but much quieter.

I've gotten more used to the Meisterschaft, but the other day I romped on it in a parking garage and it shocked me how loud it is haha.

marcussoori 10-25-2010 05:44 PM

Still have the Meisterschaft available? I have a Stillen CBE and Berk HFCs to trade, if you like...

phelan 10-25-2010 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerWA (Post 766527)
Nope. I'm still interested in trading the system for something quieter. I'm thinking a Gemini + HFCs might be a good setup for me. Probably the same HP (vs my stock cats now compared to HFCs + the Gemini which is less hp than my system) but much quieter.

I've gotten more used to the Meisterschaft, but the other day I romped on it in a parking garage and it shocked me how loud it is haha.

Gemini + HFCs is a good combo, or Stillen + HFCs. Personally I'd see if you can swing a trade deal for the Gemini first, but there aren't as many owners as the Stillen ones

JerWA 02-13-2011 10:47 PM

Sorry for the long delay. Tax money finally let me get the swap done, so this exhaust is now for sale. No longer looking for a trade, sorry.

You can see a video on the first page, and I have some pics of it mounted I can dig up. I will be cleaning it and taking more pics this coming week if anyone wants. It's in great shape with about 5,000 miles on it.

GT Haus Meisterschaft full CBE stainless steel (no cats or test pipe included). Looking for $1,200. Shipping available, at cost. Until I have it boxed I can't give accurate shipping rates. It'd be coming from 98072 if you want to get your guestimates. I'll use whatever shipping company you prefer. Expect it to not be cheap to ship. :(

For anyone who didn't read the rest of the thread, I replaced it because it's too loud. Great sound, lots of compliments, just too loud for me. Despite being loud the system has zero drone while cruising, at any speed. Very quiet at cruising speed too. Just not quiet any other time. :icon17:

SE 02-13-2011 11:48 PM

Willing to sell just the axle back/rear section?

Kastley85891 02-14-2011 09:14 AM

Great exhuast, some one will pick it up

NYBladeZ 02-14-2011 09:35 AM

PM sent

JerWA 02-14-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VICTORxSE (Post 940263)
Willing to sell just the axle back/rear section?

I'd prefer not to part it out, the pieces get harder to sell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 940464)
PM sent

PM replied. :)

I should have new pics of it up tonight.

emayfiel 02-14-2011 03:19 PM

pm sent!

NYBladeZ 02-14-2011 05:54 PM

lol dibs

emayfiel 02-14-2011 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 941282)
lol dibs

ahh, lame. NYBladeZ, isn't there some CF piece you should be buying? Or do you plan on keeping your car "two tone". lol :bowrofl:

NYBladeZ 02-14-2011 08:02 PM

Don't worry its just starting to warm up on the east coast, and I like the two tone look:tiphat: , haven't met someone who did not go wow yet. Sorry man, if it doesn't work out I'm sure you can jump on it.


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