One of the huge benefits this car is going to have, which the Z still does not, is the aftermarket. Before this car even goes on sale every part will have a better upgrade made for it already. From NA to boosted, suspension to chassis, etc. While I am still on the side that the numbers are not making this car look like a winner, the aftermarket support will just because if I want or need more I know it will be there for me to buy.

Good point, after market is already developing for this car where as for the 370z we had to wait a few years to even have a more than just a couple, if any, options.

:tup:

What tires does it come with stock?

Middle of the road Michelins 215/45R-17 tires -- better tires will up the skid pad ratings and lower the stop time

The ones they use on the prius

So all seasons?

If so, that explains the lousy skid pad and braking numbers. Get a set of Star Specs on that car and you're talking .98+ G and much shorter 60-0.

bingo!

I knew it. Tires mean everything.

In terms of raw acceleration, this car is going to be a dud. Even with an aftermarket turbo kit, you'd have to build the block before any "real" power can be had.

However, I have this funny feeling that the chassis will run quite well. .92 skid pad is not great, but nowhere near horrible, and also 69mph in the slalom is what our Z car runs.

It should be a sweet handler with a proper tire on it.

I bet it's light enough to even do well with crappy Hankook V12s.

still too expensive. Just this past week they announced it will be right around 25K (24,900 or somthing like that).

Should have had a base model start at 19,900.

It looks like a RWD Scion TC booo

I certainly would not pay 25k for one. I'm sure many will, though. Optioned out I think they push 30k.

There is the problem...30K = 5.0 and regarless of how the FRS/BRZ handles i would not take one over a 5.0 simply because

5.0 > 2.0
V8 > 4 cylinder
V8 rumble>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4 cylinder chirp
420 hp > 200 HP

EDIT not to even mention all the other cars that are only a few grand more (regular Evo, 370Z)