5 Alpha 4C's
 

I just witnessed 5 Alpha 4C's over a two minute period all with Michigan plates. Considering they have no trunk space they are a long way from home.

I bet it is a magazine/publicity shoot of some kind.

Probably doing "reliability" testing. LOOOOL, "Alfa" and "reliability"

are you allowed to push them off a cliff?

Is Michigan where the mail HQ for Alfa is? I ask as I see some photo journals past and present that show spy shots of cars with Mi plates, so curious to be honest.

Fiat owns Alfa, and Fiat owns Chrysler, and Chrysler is out of Michigan. So Michigan plates

Alfas were a renowned turd of a car when I was growing up as was fiat. Funnily enough my dad owned a Fiat 132 1800GLS rust and clutch cable issues galore. Solid engine though.

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Testing/photo and press work is going on with those....

In your neck of the woods, I thought you could not be a gear head without Alfa ownership. :icon17:

It is the Italian steel that fails these cars too.

I saw 4 more 4C's in the same place the next day only two cars could be the same as two other colors were seen. It was foggy both days so publicity photos may not work out. Maybe I'll see them again today, although it is still fogged in.

The only Alfa I liked was the GTV6 back in Europe. Again, electronics nightmare and rust bucket.

i thought all euro cars are a hit or miss...? :ugh:

Indeed, dont believe the hype my dear American friend.

The car was announced for American release a few days ago and American-spec cars are now being test driven, beginning in California.

are they like bigger than the rest of the world versions or something? :ugh2:

actually they kind of are, they are 340~ or so pounds heavier due to a reinforced cockpit and various safety equipment

Lol, but c'mon, on the WHOLE most euro cars BLOW.

Wow... That kinda kills the whole allure of the car being CF and such

Well other features that people are thinking that add to the "standard" weight are, required A/C, a couple extra airbags (side), passenger seat needed extra hardware to slide (is static in euro version), and radio plus speakers are standard.

All in all, government stuff added some but forcing the A/C and radio standard is probably 200lbs right off the line.

But aren't Ze German's safety specs higher than ours?

Could be, but I think it has to do with what the US requires per its safety rules that the Euro does not.

God bless DOT and not ECE :shakes head:

Hence the Irony. Its far easier to export as US Spec car to Europe than vicer versa.

There is that, and the US has a 25 year rule...:shakes head:
You can thank Mercedes for that one.

My dad test drove one a week ago while shopping for a new car after the GT-R

it was pretty disappointing apparently in every aspect not just power(wel duh its a 1.8 liter)

plus no trunk

This is a modern sportscar. its like what 40k-50k?

you can't get a fricking satnav built in.

plus alfa romeo are pretty damn unreliable. I have a friend who used to work in an alfa dealership for 5 years. they couldn't keep up with the stream of broken down alfas :roflpuke2:

but in general italian cars are pretty unreliable.

I saw these cars for three days straight. It was foggy the first two but this is what they filmed the third.

2015 Alfa Romeo 4C First Drive Review: A Budget Ferrari? - YouTube

I actually saw this guy and camera man.

All the cars lined up are at Sears Point Raceway in Sonoma.

The video talks about this a bit.

This is no GTR maybe a 370 replacement but I'd take the C7. Your reliability comment is likely why Alfa hasn't been imported for 20 years, 8C excepted.

Just saw the estimate price in excess of 80k. Unreal, no thanks. Rather have a lotus or better still used GTR.

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The review was average. Ive driven the car and its a fun visceral driving car. No it doesnt have a camera. Nor did the Elise. Its a no power steering, no frills yet high tech(Carbon fiber tub etc) pure fun driving machine. No nav? NO loss lol. Map reading still applies lol! Im amazed at some of the comments here all via keyboard testing. Yeah ok.
Comparing this to any 400+ Hp hyper/super car is well..a b s u r d! Want a camera? Get an Escalade. The reviewer is typical spoilt why doesnt my car make pizza for me. My god 15 years ago we drove with alot less and thats what this represents. Its a F'n mid engine fun rocket. IM glad Ive driven it and Im happy Alfa is back. Want reliability? Get a Honda-- If thats all you are buying for.

This car new ordered will not be 80,000$ It will be if you let a dealer gouge you for a Launch Edition.

So.... Car's can't have compromise, not even a little?
I think what you're saying is absurd to be honest.

The GTR will rape this, has 4 seats has reliability, and has a trunk, and has a camera, and a stereo... Corvette has the same minus the 4 seats...

If they want 50-60k and hideously impractical, they better give me something more than a visceral driving experience... If I JUST want that I'll buy a Caterham, which will rape this thing too

THe car is full of compromises. Its that way by nature as its
-Mid engined
-Lightweight by design to the extreme
-That appears to be missed by a few here
GTR? Vette? Sorry but thats not what this car was designed to compete with. Caterham hideous and impractical. Why-- because compromise. Go drive then we can talk. Ive owned 3 diff Lotus Turbo's. This car reminds me of all of them. Its a great driving car. If you need help with what a 'driving car' is well.....I wont bother lol! Get a Vette and hang at Cars n Coffee.

You mean I have to compromise FOR the car...

I'm saying why can't the car compromise for me, if the car can only do one thing well, it better be the god damn best, and I bet it's not the best for the money spent, that's what I'm saying. Rather look like a prick in a Caterham, lol

An interesting review of the 4C from Richard at TopGear. Worth a look without all the Vette/GTR comparisons that are way off base lol!

Hammond drives the Alfa Romeo 4C - BBC Top Gear

I was with you until you made the reliability statement. How can one spend 50 to 80 thousand dollars an expect unreliability to be an acceptable part of your purchase. No one should have to buy and $50,000 vehicle that is going to not work 50% of the time.

Sadly so many are.

What data do you have or anyone here for that matter about Alfa 4C reliability. No one so that was easy. I will say Alfa do quite well in Germany and have many dealers and cars on the road.

I didnt lose anyone to be frank. Read ANY forum and you will never buy that particular car. Id happily buy a 4C and drive it and fix it if need be. Just like my Z. Its a car. They work, they dont work. Alot of you have ZERO experience with this car or Alfa in general so the old adages from the 70's are the references lol.

I had 3 Alfa's in the US. All were more reliable than my very low mileage 89 Corvette and this was in the early 90s. Whatevah! LOL!

My 2009 Abarth 500 I had for 3 years here in Germany was bullett proof. No issues. Italian cars are not the dregs you make them out to be here. They are modern, well appointed and have a soul severely lacking in so many cars. Hows GM these day LOL! Toyota and its MILLIONS of recalls etc. There is no perfection in the auto world. But if you read the Top Gear review I linked here sometimes a car, a particular car just nails you and you pursue it, as imperfect as it might be or seem to be. Im glad Im not scared lol!

Tell the truth now. How many miles you do in the Fiat? Forget about years. Its all about miles..

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I sold my Abarth 500 with over 40,000km's and it was tuned as well by Gtech here in Germany. It got used and well maintained. Was my daily driver for 3 years. Thats not a bad record. Many in the Abarth Club here in Germany have had similar experiences. A good reliable and fun car. Not much more you can ask for in this world. Italian or not.

My XKE is fairly reliable. This may be an exception to the rule, yet I am afraid to actually rely upon it. I am guessing the Alfa is the same.

Modern Alfa's are reliable. Are they Honda's no. Are they better than the 1970's sure. Fuel injected, etc etc. Its a modern car with a touch of soul not found in many marques. Fiat owns them. If they are like my Abarth was its all good.

I think folks just need to get out and drive them when they arrive. They sell well here and my colleagues at work have them and use them daily. Much ado about nothing really.

My 86 Lotus Turbo was my daily driver in 1997 for over a year. Zero problems. Its a car. You drive it and maintain them they run better. Always.

Why this and not a Lotus for the price?

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Considered a Lotus. Been a while since owning my last Alfa. Test drive was great in the 4C and Richard's review from Top Gear mirrors my thoughts. Not a perfect car, nothing is but it grabbed me! So we shall see :)