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What's up with that RC-F steering wheel? Looks like it belongs on the S.S. Minnow. So you guys really don't mind that road-feel disconnect of full on electronic steering? IMHO...

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Old 09-15-2014, 08:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What's up with that RC-F steering wheel? Looks like it belongs on the S.S. Minnow.

So you guys really don't mind that road-feel disconnect of full on electronic steering? IMHO... Steering feedback is so HUGE in the driving experience. I really appreciate the fact that, Infiniti is the Only company that made full on electronic steering for the Non sport Q50. And the Sport Q50 still has the hydraulic unit. Steering & Suspension feedback rule my world. Though the Z is numb at 8degrees R/L TDC at low speed... There's plenty of feedback during performance maneuvers and at high speed.

It's the main reason why I'm so anxious for the next gen Z and GT-R. Nissan seems to understand that performance needs to be increased without deleting the senses of the vehicle in motion. GTR, thankfully brandishes a draully. All the new sports cars took a hit on numb to no steering feel for a smidge more accuracy.
The only car thus far truly benefitting performance-wise from a full-on electronic steering is the C7. Yet I notice all reviews don't touch the subject on the C7 at all, so my statement may be inaccurate. The truth will come out in reviews, the second or third model year like with the toyobaru twins.

I just know the mustang steering feel is the worst of any sports car and is an instant deal breaker. (elec-steer)

From the M235 to the Z, you guys don't find elec steer a dull drive experience?
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...you guys don't find elec steer a dull drive experience?
I drove a manual and automatic M4 this weekend. Compared to the Z, yes they are extremely dull cars in regard to their drive experience, but I am buying a "sports coupe" (i.e. a sedan) not another sports car.
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I drove a manual and automatic M4 this weekend. Compared to the Z, yes they are extremely dull cars in regard to their drive experience, but I am buying a "sports coupe" (i.e. a sedan) not another sports car.
I get what you're saying but the key word here is "sport". Anything with sporty intentions should feel "sporty" in the driving experience. Sporty, I can see a car being slow, but have perfect balance, great feedback but still provides you with two extra seats, good fuel economy and a usable trunk... That's sporty.
Driving around in a fast car with no kind of feedback or sportiness in the steering and/or suspension combined is pretty much a car.... That goes fast.... Is precise... But without the soul of a sports car. It's just a precise, fast passenger car.
Like electric sports cars. No exhaust sound. No soul period! It's like going to an music concert but you can't hear.

The band's playing. Music is good and loud. But you can't hear it = Electric car.

Just my opiniom though and a thank you for your answer and honest opinion.
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