Yeah that's ridiculous but most cars seem to be overpriced. I do like the 228 and 235 and can be had for reasonable price if keep options in check.

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The thing I hate about Germans is it's like an a la carte restaurant. You can get everything you want, but they'll nickel and dime you for every item.

I dont trust BMW and Audi. All I ever here about is problems, (mostly electronics) even while under warranty. Less electronics = less problems. A guy around me took his A8 to a car wash, and the electronic parking brake malfunctioned from the undercarriage spray...now his brake is locked on.

it is. i priced out a A4 once and started out fine, ended up with a wtf price.

i hate choosing ala carte. i think they should do it like acura (or at least how they use to do it). 3 different packages. no other option.

base, mid-grade, fully loaded. i want to go to a dealer and order "i'll have a #1".. with a diet pepsi.

:iagree: They're great looking cars for sure, but their interiors never really leave me as excited as the exterior.

My brother in-law is big into BMW and Audi. Last year he got a 2012 A4 with the S-line package. Pretty sharp looking car but I believe he's having oil consumption issues. Only 30k on the stock 2.0T

I have absolutely no complaints with the electric steering in my 911. It's all I could ask for and more. Maybe I'm not good enough of a driver to notice that the 997 had better steering feel (I can feel the difference, just can't decide if it's better or worse - IMO).

hey do you need help with anything? you're in the DFW area right?