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jaedub 01-13-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ohohoh123456 (Post 2649052)
My guess around 60-70k

That seems about right. I think 80k at the most.

aron111 01-13-2014 04:15 PM

:ughdance::ughdance::ughdance::nutswinger::nutswin ger::nutswinger:

SUPRAAAAAAAAAA!

/Angelo350Z/ 01-13-2014 04:20 PM

Looks alright, but I don't think it's going to happen.

TheGreatOne 01-13-2014 04:30 PM

I definitely don't hate it....makes you want to take a second look.

If its actually in the $70-80K range and has small production numbers we could be looking at something impressive here, otherwise if its 100K + well meh....not in my budget lol

UNKNOWN_370 01-13-2014 04:35 PM

Anyone notice the Nissan Inspired foglight?. :/

I'll take a pound of that cheese. :ughdance:

FairladyZ10PG 01-13-2014 04:43 PM

Supra!!!! :excited:

semtex 01-13-2014 04:45 PM

Watch them slap a Lexus badge on it. If it gets made at all, that is.

Justice97 01-13-2014 04:57 PM

Those mirrors are begging to be snapped off.

A little too techie on the interior but I don't know what all the buttons do so It could just be the looks.
Overall I like it though. I won't go trading in my Z for it, but I would drive one for sure.
It is sexy.

RonRizz 01-13-2014 05:20 PM

Most likely to never see production award goes to........................................

HelluvaG 01-13-2014 06:07 PM

See the Kia GT4 Stinger Concept?

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/k5..._action_2_.jpg

UNKNOWN_370 01-13-2014 06:30 PM

Any car manufacturer can make a hot concept. Production is a whole other issue.

Not holding my breath on Toyota is back!!!!

In concept form. The lfa was supposed to be a $150k. Then when it went into production... $375k. And it has an is250 interior at that price.:shakes head: Toyota still has much to prove.

jlo370z 01-13-2014 06:41 PM

im in, sell me one now!

Elan 01-13-2014 06:56 PM

Looks great but knowing Toyota, it will probably get a 1.6 I4 doing 180bhp...

RonRizz 01-13-2014 06:58 PM

I read that the Toyota CEO (who is himself a race car driver) drove the concept car on Gran Turismo 6, which is apparently where the concept came from. When he beat his own Personal best on fuji speedway (in an LFA) with the video game, he OK'd production of the concept. Word is the car doesn't even have an engine in it, it is just a shell.
I guess it was thrown out there, and accomplished its main purpose.....Getting people to say "Toyota"

RonRizz 01-13-2014 06:59 PM

As a side note, I think the car is Ugly as F&%#.

kenchan 01-13-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elan (Post 2649535)
Looks great but knowing Toyota, it will probably get a 1.6 I4 doing 180bhp...

and run ugly sunken wheels like their lexus SC and sedan tires. lol

forza370z 01-13-2014 11:39 PM

Is it just me? The FT-1's profile just look like the 370z. Almost identical.:ugh2: Then the front looks like Enzo. The real looks like LFA. Lol.

Jordo! 01-14-2014 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2650043)
Is it just me? The FT-1's profile just look like the 370z. Almost identical.:ugh2: Then the front looks like Enzo. The real looks like LFA. Lol.

I see elements of that (really, classic sports car lines) and also of F1-esque exotics. The rear deck is very last gen Supra, and you can definitely see styling cues from the FT-HS concept from a few years ago.

I expect some the areo will be lost in translation -- but that's okay. This belongs in the Z range of price, not the GT-R.

Hell, the LF-A doesn't exactly run rings around the GT-R, and it costs 5 times as much.

I'm hoping Toyota will keep this as a Nissan Z fighter -- and I for one would certainly strongly consider it as an alternative.

And as a bonus
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imagine all grumbling among the twins crowd... :icon17:

semtex 01-14-2014 05:56 AM

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Mr&Mrs 01-14-2014 06:13 AM

I don't think we have a chance of this car being in the Z range. Inflation puts the 98 Supra cost close to 70k currently. That is if I remember correctly and they were around 50k for the TT version.

My guess is 80-90k.

Wonka2581 01-14-2014 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 2650249)
I don't think we have a chance of this car being in the Z range. Inflation puts the 98 Supra cost close to 70k currently. That is if I remember correctly and they were around 50k for the TT version.

My guess is 80-90k.

I beg to differ sir, I just got a barn find oem turbo supra that runs and drives for
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$3.000.00
I think it will be priced in the lower to mid 40s. Ask Andrew he still hates me for it.

Wonka2581 01-14-2014 07:02 AM

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Shadezz 01-14-2014 08:49 AM

We'll...maybe if I call toyota and ask if I can we can do some "group buy deposits" LOL to get the production started? 25k down now let's get this started!!! Still got love for the Z, but oh my the supra concept has got me hooked.

1. Shadezz

Rockhound 01-14-2014 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2650288)
I beg to differ sir, I just got a barn find oem turbo supra that runs and drives for $3.000.00
I think it will be priced in the lower to mid 40s. Ask Andrew he still hates me for it.

To be fair, he was referencing the then-new MSRP of the 1998 Supra adjusted for inflation, which makes it a nearly $70k car in today's dollars. Not what a 16 year old used examples sells for. How could that be used to estimate the new model's MSRP?

Or did I miss the sarcasm font?

Z_ealot 01-14-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockhound (Post 2650558)
To be fair, he was referencing the then-new MSRP of the 1998 Supra adjusted for inflation, which makes it a nearly $70k car in today's dollars. Not what a 16 year old used examples sells for. How could that be used to estimate the new model's MSRP?

Or did I miss the sarcasm font?


well then if we're going to go by that example then the Z should be even more expensive seeing as the 300zx turbo was going for $50k before they stopped production, so by all accounts the 370 should be in the $100k ballpark going off inflation

Firebase99 01-14-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2650198)
I see elements of that (really, classic sports car lines) and also of F1-esque exotics. The rear deck is very last gen Supra, and you can definitely see styling cues from the FT-HS concept from a few years ago.

I expect some the areo will be lost in translation -- but that's okay. This belongs in the Z range of price, not the GT-R.

Hell, the LF-A doesn't exactly run rings around the GT-R, and it costs 5 times as much.

I'm hoping Toyota will keep this as a Nissan Z fighter -- and I for one would certainly strongly consider it as an alternative.

And as a bonus
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imagine all grumbling among the twins crowd... :icon17:



+11 Im back to loathing the Twins.

Rockhound 01-14-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 2650588)
well then if we're going to go by that example then the Z should be even more expensive seeing as the 300zx turbo was going for $50k before they stopped production, so by all accounts the 370 should be in the $100k ballpark going off inflation

Well, $50k in 1996 is approximately $72k adjusted to today's dollars, so using that logic the 370Z would be $70k, too, not sure where the $100k comes from.

Look, I didn't say it was an infallible method, I was just explaining his logic - this example happens to come with a significant currency valuation overprint as the yen reached a peak against the dollar in 1995. This is what really caused the low-volume Japanese car price hike in the mid-90s.

Otherwise, for domestic goods, car prices have been fairly well behaved, although they have risen slightly compared to inflation. For example, my dad purchased a new base Camaro in 1972 for about $3500, IIRC. In today's dollars that's about $19k. A base Camaro today stickers for $24 (invoice $22.6k) but you get a whole lot more car for the $3 to $5k increase.

NissanFan 01-14-2014 11:54 AM

i remember the days when a loaf of bread was $0.18...

Nismodean 01-14-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2649375)
Anyone notice the Nissan Inspired foglight?. :/

I'll take a pound of that cheese. :ughdance:

And the ENTIRE outer lines of the cockpit AND the hood line of the Nismo! Take a side view and see for yourself. Basically they took the entire upper lines of the Nismo (minus the rear) and planted it on that thing.

Z_ealot 01-14-2014 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockhound (Post 2650872)
Well, $50k in 1996 is approximately $72k adjusted to today's dollars, so using that logic the 370Z would be $70k, too, not sure where the $100k comes from.

Look, I didn't say it was an infallible method, I was just explaining his logic - this example happens to come with a significant currency valuation overprint as the yen reached a peak against the dollar in 1995. This is what really caused the low-volume Japanese car price hike in the mid-90s.

Otherwise, for domestic goods, car prices have been fairly well behaved, although they have risen slightly compared to inflation. For example, my dad purchased a new base Camaro in 1972 for about $3500, IIRC. In today's dollars that's about $19k. A base Camaro today stickers for $24 (invoice $22.6k) but you get a whole lot more car for the $3 to $5k increase.


And I'm not faulting you for it either, just merely reinforcing what you already said which is to say it's pointless comparing the old model to the potentially new one

UNKNOWN_370 01-14-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2649536)
I read that the Toyota CEO (who is himself a race car driver) drove the concept car on Gran Turismo 6, which is apparently where the concept came from. When he beat his own Personal best on fuji speedway (in an LFA) with the video game, he OK'd production of the concept. Word is the car doesn't even have an engine in it, it is just a shell.
I guess it was thrown out there, and accomplished its main purpose.....Getting people to say "Toyota"

They will make run with an frs engine.

sunkist350z 01-14-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSpeedDemon (Post 2648936)
Love it. Although with that roofline, haunches and profile I can't help feeling like this is what the next RX-7 should look like.

+1 :iagree: Toyota please build it and take my money!

TerribleONE 01-14-2014 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2650290)

I hope you bought that. I am truly jealous

Tazicon 01-14-2014 05:52 PM

So what, instead of working with Subaru they started working with Alfa Romeo?

forza370z 01-14-2014 11:44 PM

It's already in the GT6. This is how much it will cost probably. No a 370z price range, not a gtr price range. Not even close... It's similar to a LF-A. Lol

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6941e635.jpg

Vertigo 01-15-2014 09:52 AM

Audi R8-ish

COSMO 01-15-2014 12:20 PM

V8 Twin Turbo= $250k easy

sunkist350z 01-15-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vertigo (Post 2652474)
Audi R8-ish

Don't know what your looking at don't see any resemblance of the r8..coming from a previous FD3S owner the rear reminds me of 3rd gen rx7. This is the car Mazda should have made as the rx9.

RoshDawg 01-15-2014 11:16 PM

There is no chance this will be in 40K range. If it is it definitely won't have the grunt to back up those looks.
I would be very content with a 911/gtr fighter.

Jordo! 01-16-2014 10:18 AM

Guys, it not going to look like that exactly.

They don't need another unafordable halo car that can't beat the GT-R anyway.

The Supra in the late 90's cost betwen 32 and 45K; in todays dollars that's 40K and 65K respectively.

Those values mean, N/A = slightly pricey Z fighter, turboed = pricey Nismo fighter, both with no real competitors (the tuboded straight 6 not quite keeping up with the slightly more expensive blown US Pony cars that will have poorer fit and finish.)

I could be wrong, but a little too much money for a little too little car is what they did with the FR-S (that might change once the idx comes out...), and is probably the model they'll follow here.

So something in the 40 to 60 range is totally do-able for something that looks good and performs well without totally pricing itself into extinction when faced against the higher end Mustangs and Camaros or being a joke vs. the (now 6-figure) GT-R.

Building a cheaper LF-A to result in a GT-R priced car will sell no cars. The latest GT-R is FASTER than their halo LF-A at a fraction of the cost.


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