Report: Honda Mulls Bold Answer to Scion FR-S
 

Honda’s plan, according to GTChannel’s sources, is to take the happy associations headed the FR-S’s way and channel them into its own little ride, in this case a convertible similar to the celebrated Honda S2000. However, this rear-wheel sports car would be lighter and, at $20,000, much more affordable. The S2000, like the Scion FR-S, had a base model weight around 2,800 pounds; the theoretical new Honda sports car would weigh only 2,000 pounds. Taking this figure into account, the horsepower quote sounds impressive.


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Idiots should have never walked away from the game...they could have still been holding it down. But hope they can come back strong. Thanks for sharing the info...still a diehard Honda lover.

They were asking too much for a jumped up Miata...
$35k for a base S2000 in 2009 with 239hp, 163ft/lbs of tq
2755lbs, with a near 50:50 weight distribution


Toyota is asking $25-26k for a base Scion with 200hp, 151ft/lbs of tq, almost the exact same weight and the same 50:50 weight distribution, and that's 3-4 years later of inflation...


Something doesn't add up to me in Honda's world.




And normally I'm bisaed because I love Toyota, but damn I hate the FRS...

I have the s2000 as my DD, and I love it, im looking forward to seeing this new sports coupe.

Please don't send people to my house... PLEASE... You know where I live!!! :wtf2: ;-(

First off it was a convertible, so right off the bat there will be more cost. The interior blows away the FRS interior, even now. The handling is better than the FRS, even now. 240 vs 200 = 20% more hp than the FRS. The engine revved to 9000rpm. Honda has a lot of justification charging what it did for the S2000.

It's all about money. Honda makes way too much money appealing to the masses. Sports cars don't make money.

It should be named Toyota Corolla since in Japan is an AE86 and they want to bring back the success and retro look of the chassis model in 84 to 86 (SR-5 & GTS). Just to named it Scion is a big let down and Blasphemy for the fans of the AE86.

I'm also a Toyota Fan and my first new car was a 1986 Toyota Corolla SR-5 because the GTS was very limited in my country.

Where the yen was and how the economy was the last 5yrs, I don't think Honda taking a break from this segment was a bad business decision.

Hope they bring back something real exciting... not like that crz crap. :ugh:

Something doesn't add up in the Nissan world considering that the integra, prelude,s2000 were more special than anything Nissan had in the price range and that's sad because those cars had barely any torque...

Also s2000 markup was like 31k at the most and dropped to a very great price. Also as a track car or project car it's been great. Some of those supra and ls swaps were nuts.

Scion and Subaru aren't really doing much with these cars except making overpriced body kits and lame parts. Scion sales still down in spite of. The twins do nothing for me, honestly. If honda can bring true affordable fun back I the $20k range? That would change the sports car game aagain...

Honda should ha e never strayed from performance from jump.

If they want to be at 2000 lbs for only $20,000 they either have a magic (cheap) new technique for fiber/composite, or they need to take a competitive approach to the safety and emissions rules. Find some loopholes or start cheating.

The only 2 sport coupes that come to mind are the Honda Beat or the Crz roadster.

But I have a feeling their talking about the S1500. Seen here: SCOOP: HONDA WORKING ON RWD COMPACT SPORTS CAR | GT Channel
Seems pretty weak to me 132hp lol! They should have put in a K series Si motor.

Agreed. Redline was down to 8k from 04 on though.

The s2000 was marketed to a much more upscale crowd of driving enthusiasts compared to the FRS

not really weak when you consider they can do 8 second 0-60 in the fit when equipped with a manual and seeing as the fit is around 2500lb and has only 117hp i could see 132hp in a car weighing only 2000lb breaking into the high 5's low 6's with the right gearing a very possible scenario which would actually make it pretty quick and right up there with the 0-60 time on the FR-S/BRZ

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

is this it? not bad.

but kinda scared to see the production model... with huge gaping wheel gap and sunken wheels... :ugh:

http://www.gtchannel.com/sites/defau...ORT_Marked.jpg

http://www.gtchannel.com/sites/defau...ear_Marked.jpg

Yup that’s it the S1500. I still am a big Honda fan. But just wish it came with a little more juice. Has anybody seen the new Honda Beat its cool looking I can’t upload pics via my work computer (its yellow as well).

ahhhh, S1500. not bad. i dont mind the 137hp or watever it will come in.

my 5MT Fitsport can zip up to 60mph with its lawnmower engine in mid/low7sec on a cold day (faster than BRZ by half car lengh). that vert at near 2000lbs will probably do 6sec. plenty fast for me.

it's not called an AE86 anymore.. it's an FT86... so no, it shouldn't be called a corolla..

I love all sorts of cars... not really a fan boy tho

:tup: not to shabby

All I’m saying is that if the S2K was 240hp the Si is 201hp give it at least 180hp or retro Si of 160hp. Either way I’m glad Honda has several convertibles in there line up (S1500, Crz Roadster and the Beat) I Wonder which vert will have the upper hand.

yah, im kinda excited. :excited:

should feel right at home next to my Z, i thinks. :D

looks like they mocked up the discontinued saturn/pontiac convertible to me with honda symbols.

The throwback front end is great!

you mean the sky? not sure of the resemblance?

or pontiac solaris

Considering this would slot in price-wise below the Miata, how much car would you really be getting? I've got nothing against Miatas, but it's not like the market is looking for a vert for people who don't want the raw power of a MX-5.

I can kind of see it

more so the pontiac solstice... i just listed them both since they were sister cars with the same motor. especially from that back/quarter view

Does a great job paying respect to it's history:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...da_S500_01.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...daS600-001.jpg

yah, i like it. :D

Looks like a solstice to me....:ughdance:

Glad Im not the only one that though that

i like that blue. :tup:

At least we know Honda doesn't have to make an original design in order to sell cars. Just use GM designs with a shyttier front and pull colors from the crayola test belt and Honda is good to go. In idealogical concept I like the idea of that car... That design in yellow or blue, thy sucketh.

Phooey.

I think it looks pretty similar to the Solstice/Sky. Not a bad looking car though, I would definitely consider one.

i still can't see the resemblance.... but anyway, i like that S1.5K. :D

Sounds like the same thing Kia does.