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ZKindaGuy 07-27-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 127627)
Didn't Steve Saleen bail out and start another company?

yes - pernelli jones bought saleen from steve s.

dszombiex 07-27-2009 03:35 PM

Well I must say that it was looking decent until I saw the inside. This is a completely subjective opinion - YUCK. That interior is absolutely gross. Something about it just screams retro and clunky to me.

But if y'all like it more power to you.

Edit: The speedo and tach look ultra retro to me. The buttons on the steering wheel look really out of sorts too. There is a fine line between giving a nod to the old school and completely living in the past. This feels like it crossed the line for me.

chubbs 07-27-2009 05:21 PM

OK - just about all I know of Mustangs is the beautiful sound of the V8 I first heard and fell in love with in the 1960's.

I also saw a beautifully supercharged one at Le Mans last year, imported to the UK by a Mustang freak - and I must say that in the 'flesh' it looked and (of course) sounded really nice.

But now, my opinion goes downhill - Those lovely high quality pics at the start of this thread reveal a design that has run out of ideas. The 2010 Mustang should not look ANYTHING like that - in 40 years it hasn't evolved, it's got lardy, lumpy and sorry but the word is ........boring. The words 'Complacent. Safe and Dull' come to mind.
This is a real shame, because 40 years ago the brand Mustang really meant something and said something about Americans and American Muscle cars. The Mustang WAS Steve McQueen. Sadly, now all it does is highlight american motor manufacturers' complacency. These days, the Mustang isn't a throbbing Steve McQueen, it's an ageing Schwarzenegger with too much make-up and hair dye.

Chickens are coming home to roost - the americans are now playing catch-up with other car manufacturers from around the world - and they're not doing it very well.

The only thing that should be constant in a Mustang is the sound - the rest should have kept up with the times. Sadly it's still in the 80's.

ZKindaGuy 07-28-2009 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 127974)
OK - just about all I know of Mustangs is the beautiful sound of the V8 I first heard and fell in love with in the 1960's.

I also saw a beautifully supercharged one at Le Mans last year, imported to the UK by a Mustang freak - and I must say that in the 'flesh' it looked and (of course) sounded really nice.

But now, my opinion goes downhill - Those lovely high quality pics at the start of this thread reveal a design that has run out of ideas. The 2010 Mustang should not look ANYTHING like that - in 40 years it hasn't evolved, it's got lardy, lumpy and sorry but the word is ........boring. The words 'Complacent. Safe and Dull' come to mind.
This is a real shame, because 40 years ago the brand Mustang really meant something and said something about Americans and American Muscle cars. The Mustang WAS Steve McQueen. Sadly, now all it does is highlight american motor manufacturers' complacency. These days, the Mustang isn't a throbbing Steve McQueen, it's an ageing Schwarzenegger with too much make-up and hair dye.

Chickens are coming home to roost - the americans are now playing catch-up with other car manufacturers from around the world - and they're not doing it very well.

The only thing that should be constant in a Mustang is the sound - the rest should have kept up with the times. Sadly it's still in the 80's.

I don't agree with SOME of what you say. For 2010 everything you are saying about it "not up with the times" is correct. I do think however the 2005 through 2009 S197 style was the absolute best capture of Mustang's design heritage and the best design move Ford ever made. It saved their company and it also cashed in on a retro-design that actually worked for real in the past 5 model years.

You are coorect however in that it is time to move on....The question really stills stands however in what should be Ford's next design move as they really need to kick it up a notch for the 2015 styling.

I think if Ford would have released for 2010 production the exact design copy of the Mustang Giugiaro Concept Car then they wouldn't have painted themselves into the corner they are now going to be in. Instead they only did a far removed partial take on the Giugiaro for the 2010 design.

Attached are some Mustang Giugiaro Concept Car pics that I think should have been what the 2010 Mustang that went to production looked exactly like. This would have at least put the Mustang into the right direction for a new 2015 design. I think Ford let this one get away. If they try to make this car teh 2015 release it will be too late because its design will be "old" for that date of release. 2015 needs to be something beyond the Giugiaro concept shown below.

chubbs 07-28-2009 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 128344)
...I do think however the 2005 through 2009 S197 style was the absolute best capture of Mustang's design heritage...

I agree with you totally - the car I inspected at Le Mans was one of those.

Don't be too hard on me tho - I was fullo' beer when I typed all that :tiphat:

But I'll add one thing - fuel consumption :0

MC 07-29-2009 02:44 AM

anyone seen the NASCAR Nationwide series "Mustang" they are running next year?

just stckers to look like the car but i give them an E for effort to try to have some sort of brand tie in.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....ang-nascar.jpg

smurfblu13 07-29-2009 02:47 AM

^^bwahahahahaha please tell me that's a joke. I like Mustangs and all but holy hell are you serious?

MC 07-29-2009 03:29 AM

not a joke ford and chrysler opted to run mustang and challenger looking cars in the nationwide series ( formerly busch) they will run the regular cars (COT) in sprint cup

chevy opted out and wont run the camaro...as far as ive read

but yeah its the uniform NASCAR template body with body line decals

m4a1mustang 07-29-2009 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 128376)
But I'll add one thing - fuel consumption :0

What about it? THey get roughly the same mileage we do. mid-high 20s on the highway and high teens city.

m4a1mustang 07-29-2009 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MC@MYGTR (Post 129646)
not a joke ford and chrysler opted to run mustang and challenger looking cars in the nationwide series ( formerly busch) they will run the regular cars (COT) in sprint cup

chevy opted out and wont run the camaro...as far as ive read

but yeah its the uniform NASCAR template body with body line decals

Yup. Common templates stink but they are all after aerodynamic equality now so it is what it is.

chubbs 07-29-2009 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 129669)
What about it? THey get roughly the same mileage we do. mid-high 20s on the highway and high teens city.

Aaah - I was thinking of the supercharged one I saw - nowhere near 19mpg.

grahfz 08-04-2009 01:25 AM

that looks soooo much like the TPI intake...

terrible those were.


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