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gsxr750 03-03-2013 10:14 PM

Police and sport bike accident !!!
 
Video speaks for it self !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=T5Rb_3GlMTM

XiP 03-03-2013 10:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Rb_3GlMTM

Wonka2581 03-03-2013 10:37 PM

Wow wtf! That is no way to be a cop! Very disappointing.....

Ni55anPat 03-03-2013 11:43 PM

lmao

Ackrite 03-04-2013 12:20 AM

I ride a bike and this guy did nothing wrong. I also ride the white line to give an extra buffer and it looked like the white car was gonna cut him off. The cop seemed very scared and the "I can write you a shitload of tickets" was clearly a cop-out since he's the one that wanted no problems and just have the situation disappear. The person that does the rear-ending is always at fault. This idiot biker coulda had a decent outcome if he went with getting the tickets and then called the Law-Tigers.

GaleForce 03-04-2013 07:46 AM

Ibtl

Haboob 03-04-2013 07:49 AM

Hopefully he took this video to his superiors. That's just absurd behavior by the officer.

SouthArk370Z 03-04-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ackrite (Post 2195185)
... The person that does the rear-ending is always at fault. ...

That's what I was taught in Driver Ed and several defensive driving courses. If you run into the back of someone, you were following too close for conditions.

jpritche 03-04-2013 08:12 AM

That's hilarious.

UNKNOWN_370 03-04-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ackrite (Post 2195185)
I ride a bike and this guy did nothing wrong. I also ride the white line to give an extra buffer and it looked like the white car was gonna cut him off. The cop seemed very scared and the "I can write you a shitload of tickets" was clearly a cop-out since he's the one that wanted no problems and just have the situation disappear. The person that does the rear-ending is always at fault. This idiot biker coulda had a decent outcome if he went with getting the tickets and then called the Law-Tigers.

:iagree:
What a psych game the COP played on the MC driver. He was so wrong, There is no rhyme or reason for him rear-ending him or anyone. If you REAR END someone it's cuz you're driving TOO CLOSE, period. Then the OFFICER is using foul language and making unnecessary threats of ticket writing which is CLEARLY an ABUSE of POWER.

But this is what we have to PRETEND we don't go through. But it's all right here on film.:ugh2:

Cmike2780 03-04-2013 09:26 AM

This is really making a big deal out of nothing. With all the shyt a lot of bikers do, I'm still siding with the police on this one. Who knew bikers were a bunch of babies. How about this biker post the rest of his videos. I seriously doubt he follows every word of the law. It also looks like the biker clearly stops abruptly to cause the cop car to hit him. That other car switching lanes was pretty far off...not enough of a reason for the biker to come to a complete stop. He has over a car lenght between that white car to his left that's signaling. The guy on the bike slammed on the brake on purpose. He could have easily slowed down and let that white camry in much earlier.

Don't get me wrong, the cop was being kind of a **** too.

Cmike2780 03-04-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2195384)
That's what I was taught in Driver Ed and several defensive driving courses. If you run into the back of someone, you were following too close for conditions.

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Originally Posted by Ackrite (Post 2195185)
The person that does the rear-ending is always at fault.

Not true to any degree of the law whatsoever. It's just easier to prove someone following too close, but it's not always that persons fault. Slamming your brakes in the middle of moving traffic on purpose for example, means you still caused the accident even though you're the one who got rear ended. It's called a swoop and squat and a reason why you see a lot of people in Russia with dash cams.

UNKNOWN_370 03-04-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2195483)
This is really making a big deal out of nothing. With all the shyt a lot of bikers do, I'm still siding with the police on this one. Who knew bikers were a bunch of babies. How about this biker post the rest of his videos. I seriously doubt he follows every word of the law. It also looks like the biker clearly stops abruptly to cause the cop car to hit him. That other car switching lanes was pretty far off...not enough of a reason for the biker to come to a complete stop. He has over a car lenght between that white car to his left that's signaling. The guy on the bike slammed on the brake on purpose. He could have easily slowed down and let that white camry in much earlier.

Don't get me wrong, the cop was being kind of a **** too.


Motorcycles, I stay 3 car lengths away on the street, I completely avoid being behind one on the highway. If I have to be... 5 or more car lengths.

speculation of what the biker probably drives like is irrelevant. Regardless of how close or far traffic was ahead of the motorcycle. It is the car directly in front of you you need to watch out for.

If this guy was riding too slow in traffic? Why didn't the officer pull him over and question him? The whole russia cam thing. It's not just for rear ending. People jump on cars and claim they were hit etc... There's just an epidemic of insurance fraud in Russia. while purposely getting rear ended in a car may have financial benefit. Getting hit while on a motorcycle on purpose, sounds very risky and dangerous, even at low speeds.

Even with all the rational sounding excuses you made. I can't see how this should've even happened at such low speeds if paying attention to whats in front of you.

STILL no need for the badge to curse at the civilian. No matter how upset he got. He's supposed to be a community example.

Jbwrecked 03-04-2013 01:45 PM

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ImportConvert 03-04-2013 01:45 PM

Something is wrong. Someone got their bike rear-ended and did not blow up at the person doing it, and happened to have a camera on them. I don't care what costume you are wearing when you hit my vehicle by doing something totally stupid, I am going to ask you WTF?! if you rear-end me. I'm damn sure not going to "No problems" and let you drive off. There is more to this story. Has to be.

Mitco39 03-04-2013 01:48 PM

Cop rear-ends me and I'm at fault!?! | Hell for Leather Hell for Leather

Cmike2780 03-04-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2195998)

The guy on the bike is sounding more like a d0uche every time I read more into it. Coming to a complete stop wasn't even necessary. Something doesn't smell right.

Also, you'd think removing self incriminating videos of yourself speeding would be the first thing to come down when you're quoting laws and posting a "crash" video as evidence.

one of his other videos.... he's going about 80-87mph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO7RqCoAves&list=UUa9jhG6NwdIqfG4Bv4pvYZg&index=5

Here he is lane spliting...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZgjUd29WWk&list=UUa9jhG6NwdIqfG4Bv4pvYZg

SS_Firehawk 03-04-2013 02:51 PM

I can guarantee noone here has tried to ride in Las Vegas. I would consider it more dangerous than deployment. It's the true melting pot of crap drivers. Bikers here ride very cautiously. when in thick traffic like this or on freeways during rush hour. Noone cares to check their mirrors, turn their head, listen for other vehicles, and ride so close to the bump in front of them, you can see what radio station they are listening to. I side with the biker. I didn't do anything wrong. He doesn't have to be "in" traffic as the Officer claims. cop cars out here don't change lanes with their turn signals, don't keep their distance and flip their lights to cross red lights. I have no doubt that cop was far too close to the bike and used a bully tactic, he is using his power and authority to intimidate the biker. The other videos have no argument to what is being presented. Other comments of riders also have no argument because it was not part of this video. Facts are facts, everything else is invalid.

Haboob 03-04-2013 02:53 PM

Yeah. I can't stand bikes that split lanes (illegal here in AZ)... so I just merge to the line when I see them coming by.

Then they yell at me like I did something wrong - nope, I'm in my lane *******. You have to wait in traffic like the rest of us.

But back on topic - it is pretty stupid to have those kind of vid's up then claim your some sort of law abiding citizen and play victim in the latest vid. Granted the officer was in the wrong, but his reputation isn't that great.

UNKNOWN_370 03-04-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2196124)
I can guarantee noone here has tried to ride in Las Vegas. I would consider it more dangerous than deployment. It's the true melting pot of crap drivers. Bikers here ride very cautiously. when in thick traffic like this or on freeways during rush hour. Noone cares to check their mirrors, turn their head, listen for other vehicles, and ride so close to the bump in front of them, you can see what radio station they are listening to. I side with the biker. I didn't do anything wrong. He doesn't have to be "in" traffic as the Officer claims. cop cars out here don't change lanes with their turn signals, don't keep their distance and flip their lights to cross red lights. I have no doubt that cop was far too close to the bike and used a bully tactic, he is using his power and authority to intimidate the biker. The other videos have no argument to what is being presented. Other comments of riders also have no argument because it was not part of this video. Facts are facts, everything else is invalid.

Sounds like Texas.

UNKNOWN_370 03-04-2013 04:22 PM

He might be guilty in 20 vids... But the cop one, he's innocent. Facts are facts. No one goes to court and says you are innocent of your charges but we know you've done illegal stuff that doesn't hold up in this court, so you're guilty anyway (unless you're OJ Simpson, lol)

If it's like that? Then we need to change the topic to the thread. "Finding dirt on a douche victim". lol Our system is abusive because many of us subscribe to fascist style judgement's and we don't even realize it.

That said... I'm outta this one... I can see where its goin.

Mitco39 03-04-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2196286)

That said... I'm outta this one... I can see where its goin.

Lol you just pointed this thread there to watch it explode, didnt you? :bowrofl:

shaun66 03-04-2013 04:54 PM

Wait so what about the damage to his bike? How do they just part ways like that after someone is at fault?? That's probably a hard case when a police car hits you.

gsxr750 03-04-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2196075)
The guy on the bike is sounding more like a d0uche every time I read more into it. Coming to a complete stop wasn't even necessary. Something doesn't smell right.

Also, you'd think removing self incriminating videos of yourself speeding would be the first thing to come down when you're quoting laws and posting a "crash" video as evidence.

one of his other videos.... he's going about 80-87mph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO7RqCoAves&list=UUa9jhG6NwdIqfG4Bv4pvYZg&index=5

Here he is lane spliting...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZgjUd29WWk&list=UUa9jhG6NwdIqfG4Bv4pvYZg

The videos you posted may not be the same rider, I don't see any Puig windshield in the police video.

Cmike2780 03-04-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2196332)
The videos you posted may not be the same rider, I don't see any Puig windshield in the police video.

He refers to himself in the first person in multiple video descriptions under that user name, including the cop one. If I'm mistaken, I'll gladly apologize. It's the same bike...helmet is just blocking view of the windshield. You can kind of catch it around 35 seconds in & 2:33.

zguynate 03-04-2013 07:09 PM

The cop is definitely in the wrong on this one. Trust me I try to side with the cops, but this time the officer is wrong. There are policies in place when an officer gets into an accident and I'm pretty sure this officer did not follow it. Not to mention the officers reaction to the situation is unacceptable. The first thing he should have said is "are you ok?".

lol1234 03-04-2013 07:50 PM

Was expecting much worse but I have never been on a bike. Can someone explain why he stopped so abruptly? I get the white car is trying to merge but I thought he would have just kept a slower pace.

Ackrite 03-04-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2196075)

Here he is lane spliting...
( Click to show/hide )

He seems to be doing a pretty good job of splitting lanes there. Nothing out of the ordinary or unsafe about that vid.

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2196130)
Yeah. I can't stand bikes that split lanes (illegal here in AZ)... so I just merge to the line when I see them coming by.

Then they yell at me like I did something wrong - nope, I'm in my lane *******. You have to wait in traffic like the rest of us.

But back on topic - it is pretty stupid to have those kind of vid's up then claim your some sort of law abiding citizen and play victim in the latest vid. Granted the officer was in the wrong, but his reputation isn't that great.

What's wrong with splitting lanes, other than it being illegal? Does it make you jealous, scared, envious, or does it actually somehow ruin your day? You should realize that splitting lanes is perfectly safe so long as we don't have people intentionally trying to hit us. It causes absolutely no inconvenience to cars and it won't make a person in a car take longer to get to where they are going. Splitting lanes also improves traffic congestion. But, I guess it makes you feel like a big man to try and either end a person's life or physically debilitate them for life just to prove a point or get some kind of personal victory or satisfaction. I've had my fair share of people like you and if I ever actually do go down because of it, then it's likely my GoPro can help get the driver vehicular manslaughter or attempted murder charges.

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Originally Posted by lol1234 (Post 2196646)
Was expecting much worse but I have never been on a bike. Can someone explain why he stopped so abruptly? I get the white car is trying to merge but I thought he would have just kept a slower pace.

He probably stopped so abruptly because he thought he was in the white car's blind spot and wasn't sure if the car was going to cut him off. At that point it is better to slow down, though perhaps not so abruptly, than to speed up because he had nowhere to go ahead since it's not legal to split in Nevada. It has happened to me many times where a cop will get on my *** to most likely get my plates just in case I try to run if he tries to stop me for any reason. That's my guess as to what the cop was doing in that video and that's also a perfect example of why splitting should be legal everywhere because the bike woulda been in front of all the cars at the stop light and that situation never would have happened.

Z_ealot 03-04-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ackrite (Post 2196818)
He seems to be doing a pretty good job of splitting lanes there. Nothing out of the ordinary or unsafe about that vid.



What's wrong with splitting lanes, other than it being illegal? Does it make you jealous, scared, envious, or does it actually somehow ruin your day? You should realize that splitting lanes is perfectly safe so long as we don't have people intentionally trying to hit us. It causes absolutely no inconvenience to cars and it won't make a person in a car take longer to get to where they are going. Splitting lanes also improves traffic congestion. But, I guess it makes you feel like a big man to try and either end a person's life or physically debilitate them for life just to prove a point or get some kind of personal victory or satisfaction. I've had my fair share of people like you and if I ever actually do go down because of it, then it's likely my GoPro can help get the driver vehicular manslaughter or attempted murder charges.



He probably stopped so abruptly because he thought he was in the white car's blind spot and wasn't sure if the car was going to cut him off. At that point it is better to slow down, though perhaps not so abruptly, than to speed up because he had nowhere to go ahead since it's not legal to split in Nevada. It has happened to me many times where a cop will get on my *** to most likely get my plates just in case I try to run if he tries to stop me for any reason. That's my guess as to what the cop was doing in that video and that's also a perfect example of why splitting should be legal everywhere because the bike woulda been in front of all the cars at the stop light and that situation never would have happened.

i will agree with you that splitting lanes is safest for a biker, but the sad fact is here in southern california and especially orange county most sport bike riders act like asshats on the freeway and cant lane split properly for their life not to mention half the time they are doing almost double the speed limit. i can not tell you how many times i've been nearly hit while staying in my own lane minding my own business by these guys on their sport bikes and then to top it off when i pull up to a red light and it turns green they haul off like a bat out of hell when no one is trying to race them. sticking on topic though that cop was definitely in the wrong on this one.

Haboob 03-05-2013 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ackrite (Post 2196818)


What's wrong with splitting lanes, other than it being illegal? Does it make you jealous, scared, envious, or does it actually somehow ruin your day? You should realize that splitting lanes is perfectly safe so long as we don't have people intentionally trying to hit us. It causes absolutely no inconvenience to cars and it won't make a person in a car take longer to get to where they are going. Splitting lanes also improves traffic congestion. But, I guess it makes you feel like a big man to try and either end a person's life or physically debilitate them for life just to prove a point or get some kind of personal victory or satisfaction. I've had my fair share of people like you and if I ever actually do go down because of it, then it's likely my GoPro can help get the driver vehicular manslaughter or attempted murder charges.

Wouldn't ever happen here. You'd be cited for failure to stay within your lane/reckless driving. Me? I never left my lane. I wouldn't be at fault.

Have a nice day! :tiphat:

Maybe it is jealousy, sure, why should they get to (illegally) go ahead of everyone else who has to wait? Quit being a douche bag and wait your turn - bikers are like the handicapped people at amusement parks, they think they should get to go ahead of everyone who's waited in line for an hour.

Bikers talk like they want respect, but then all they do is stupid **** like this. I have zero respect for them. You want to share the road? Then ride proper, otherwise I'll always win the battle in bike vs. car.


And as always, there are exceptions. There are some proper riders out there, but it's the bad ones that give the rest a bad name.

Haboob 03-05-2013 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 2196883)
i will agree with you that splitting lanes is safest for a biker, but the sad fact is here in southern california and especially orange county most sport bike riders act like asshats on the freeway and cant lane split properly for their life not to mention half the time they are doing almost double the speed limit. i can not tell you how many times i've been nearly hit while staying in my own lane minding my own business by these guys on their sport bikes and then to top it off when i pull up to a red light and it turns green they haul off like a bat out of hell when no one is trying to race them. sticking on topic though that cop was definitely in the wrong on this one.

Also...

I know lane splitting is legal in Cali, but not being used to it and sitting in traffic on the freeway when I'm there visiting I had a bike FLY by me. I'm at maybe 5mph and he flies between us at about 45-50.

Scared the **** out of me and I almost jerked the wheel in that direction not knowing what was going on (couldn't see in the mirrors due to it being night, other traffic, and a slight curve) - they don't take that into account when they do this stuff. It's a stupid law, IMO, to allow them to do that.

ImportConvert 03-05-2013 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2196124)
I can guarantee noone here has tried to ride in Las Vegas. I would consider it more dangerous than deployment. It's the true melting pot of crap drivers. Bikers here ride very cautiously. when in thick traffic like this or on freeways during rush hour. Noone cares to check their mirrors, turn their head, listen for other vehicles, and ride so close to the bump in front of them, you can see what radio station they are listening to. I side with the biker. I didn't do anything wrong. He doesn't have to be "in" traffic as the Officer claims. cop cars out here don't change lanes with their turn signals, don't keep their distance and flip their lights to cross red lights. I have no doubt that cop was far too close to the bike and used a bully tactic, he is using his power and authority to intimidate the biker. The other videos have no argument to what is being presented. Other comments of riders also have no argument because it was not part of this video. Facts are facts, everything else is invalid.

People drive fine in Vegas. Where are you from? I went there and there was NO BS like there is where I live. People went,and people stopped. PAY ATTENTION. I really liked driving in Vegas. Yes, it was "gogogo" but it was sensible and I liked it. No waiting around with your pecker in your hand. It was constant motion.

Cmike2780 03-05-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ackrite (Post 2196818)
He seems to be doing a pretty good job of splitting lanes there. Nothing out of the ordinary or unsafe about that vid.

Look, I get it. You're just defending another riders... that's fine and you're more than entitled to your own opinions. I have nothing against motorcycles. My father owned one & I'd like to own one someday.

To me though, there is nothing safe about weaving in & out of moving traffic without signaling or regard to other drivers on the road. I have zero problems with bikes going 10mph between cars when traffic is stopped....in NY though, idiots go 60mph. Nothing safe about that... to the biker or the other cars on the road. The guy in the video looks like he's going about 50mph. I guess my point is, if I drive like this in my Z, you'd be in the right to call me an a-hole.

SS_Firehawk 03-05-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2196986)
People drive fine in Vegas. Where are you from? I went there and there was NO BS like there is where I live. People went,and people stopped. PAY ATTENTION. I really liked driving in Vegas. Yes, it was "gogogo" but it was sensible and I liked it. No waiting around with your pecker in your hand. It was constant motion.

I live there, I work there, I drive through it every day. Not everyone drives retarded, but enough people do that it's a 5x a day occurrence. I have a lot of friends that ride here. One does not even own a car, but two bikes. It's not hectic like many large cities in downtown, it's different. People swerving across 3 lanes to make an exit or turn, people turning onto a street w/o looking, rolling past stop signs, people hauling @ss to beat you to a light only to get in your lane so they can be the first car on the light, tourists make it worse, it's like they forget what the hand and person walking means. They do understand loud accelerating 370Z and get out of the way though.

Haboob 03-05-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2197330)
I live there, I work there, I drive through it every day. Not everyone drives retarded, but enough people do that it's a 5x a day occurrence. I have a lot of friends that ride here. One does not even own a car, but two bikes. It's not hectic like many large cities in downtown, it's different. People swerving across 3 lanes to make an exit or turn, people turning onto a street w/o looking, rolling past stop signs, people hauling @ss to beat you to a light only to get in your lane so they can be the first car on the light, tourists make it worse, it's like they forget what the hand and person walking means. They do understand loud accelerating 370Z and get out of the way though.

Phoenix is a really bad place for bikes - melting pot of drivers from every other state. :mad:

nmjaxx9 03-05-2013 09:17 PM

dammmm :rofl2:

Akmcmahon 03-06-2013 02:16 AM

I'm really surprised anyone would side with the cop on this one. Traffic wasn't stopped or heavy enough to criticize his lane riding IMO. I've seen FAR worse. But the one thing NO ONE even mentioned was the fact that he was doing maybe 20mph when he hit the brakes and got rear ended. It was a pretty soft hit at that. Traffic was crawling in front and on the sides. You have to pretty much be looking at your iPhone or the girl in the other lane to not be able to stop in time. For the cop to react the way he did is ridiculous under any circumstance. He was trying to use scare tactics to get out of a potential incident. Not talking about being sued, but losing his job. I would have gone ape **** on that cop, especially knowing I had it all on tape. Cops get away with too much at times and punish for little to nothing at all often. It sucks because I know some great guys out there that are cops who will get a bad rep for the crap others pull on a regular basis.

gsxr750 03-06-2013 02:50 PM

You have to remember it doesn't matter how either individual behaved or drove on previous days or hours before the accident.

Its only the actual facts that took place during the accident.

Cmike2780 03-06-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2199527)
You have to remember it doesn't matter how either individual behaved or drove on previous days or hours before the accident.

Its only the actual facts that took place during the accident.

I just think it's kind of pointless to "blow this up" on the internet. Both walk away and it doesn't sound like there were injuries or property damage. This is nothing more than pointing out a "gotcha" moment. How an individual behaved or drove on previous days or hours before the incident is very much indicative of a motive. Any lawyer would gladly use that to build a case against the biker considering the previous videos directly relate to the rules of the road. Just as an example, if he has 50 videos of himself going 90mph and weaving in & out of traffic, a lawyer could prove motive that he's a reckless driver and possible caused the incident. Put another way, it would be like having a video of a cop slapping you in the *** while you have 50 other YouTube videos of yourself punching random strangers in the face.

Like I said, the cop was being a **** and could have handled it better. The guy on the bike also had the choice to keep this private and achieve the same result.....but he didn't.

zguynate 03-07-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2199668)
I just think it's kind of pointless to "blow this up" on the internet. Both walk away and it doesn't sound like there were injuries or property damage. This is nothing more than pointing out a "gotcha" moment. How an individual behaved or drove on previous days or hours before the incident is very much indicative of a motive. Any lawyer would gladly use that to build a case against the biker considering the previous videos directly relate to the rules of the road. Just as an example, if he has 50 videos of himself going 90mph and weaving in & out of traffic, a lawyer could prove motive that he's a reckless driver and possible caused the incident. Put another way, it would be like having a video of a cop slapping you in the *** while you have 50 other YouTube videos of yourself punching random strangers in the face.

Like I said, the cop was being a **** and could have handled it better. The guy on the bike also had the choice to keep this private and achieve the same result.....but he didn't.

I disagree with you. Sure the biker could drive like a douche all the time but in this video he wasnt. The officer was definitely at fault for this accident. Instead of manning up for his mistake and taking his ticket and departmental discipline for causing an accident, he gets out and yells at the bike driver like it was his fault. If you got rear ended by a cop, then got yelled at for something that clearly wasnt your fault you would be mad too.

Im a firm believer in you should always do whats right. This officer just intimidated the bike driver to keep from getting in trouble.


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