Well try to adhere to forum rules at the very least.

I don't care how fast they make the Nissan juke that is easily one of the most ugly cars on the road. Just seeing that parked In Nissans showroom is borderline embarrassing.

It's better than the Cube.

Lol, well sorry for that on my part.

But you have to understand, i see you saying what you type in one way while you mean it differently.

Plus, given your display name, i figuref you were bias.

M4a1 rifle + P51 Mustang

And im on a phone that will not let me scroll when typing messages. So forgive me for mis-spelling and grammar.

True forgot about the cube.. Dam so ugly

:wtf2:

Unless you buy it in yellow and your last name is Squarepants.

Play nice, or y'all run the risk of getting none of these...

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ps80ef35a1.jpg

Mmmm donuts

Anyways guys is there any info on what the new sti or mustang will look like, I bought the 370z mostly based on looks

Some rumors say it's supposed to look like the Ford Evos concept.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....oncept-630.jpg

Nissan hasn't sold Z's since 2011.

We sold:

13,500 in 09

10,300 in 10

5700 in 11

5500 in 12

Im not sure if the 13 will brake the 5000 mark. lol



But most enthusiast cars are selling low. And honestly Camaro's and mustangs are NOT enthusiast cars. They are highly marketed, advertised and imprinted in the minds of americans to believe they are the epitome of the sports experience. When you're a kid. You don't know what an Rx7 is till you're 11 or 12. But you know what a mustang and camaro is when you're 3 or 4 years old.

We grow up. If we don't know dyck about cars. But want something affordable and sporty. We will know 2 names. Camaro and mustang. Tjhats why they sell. Performance means something to 20,000 out of 200,000 buyers. Why you think most stangs on the road are v6. anfd 75% of Gt's and SS's sell because of the monitary value behind them. Not performance or technology.
Many of us here are a 1%'ers brother. We love sports cars to the point of obsession. Others are here to either be a part of something and they thought owning a car would help that? Or they are haters...

The Z doesn't advertise because Nissan expects us to know. They just hope the cars styling will speak for themselves in getting extra custy's. It worked with the Z33 cuz the economy was great and car loans were easy to get. Now the economy sucks and loans are hard to get.

You're broke but a 23k stang is easier to buy than a $34k Z. And knowing how shallow many are. Most americans want to buy the SS and GT because 4 neighbors have the v6 models. They wish they could afford the GT and here you go bursting their bubble with being the v8 guy on the block who can dust all the V6 posers. Lets keep it real. Only a handful of guys buy stangs for performance. And when they do. They're looking at two models. The Boss302 and the shelby GT500 baby paw. After those two, your buying a powerful commuter with kewl gadgets and BS.

this is HOTTTTTT!!!!

I love that concept, super hot looking.

Not sure where you are getting that from Unknown. Lots of people buy the Gt knowing its a great starting point and can kill a boss easily. I have no interest in the boss since I'd rip the dampers out the second I got it... And I wouldn't want to mod a car I paid a premium to have modded for me by the factory.

But yeah... The Mustang/camaro are definitely enthusiast cars just as much as the Z is. Lots of people by this car for looks/status over performance/heritage too. For every one enthusiast driver there are 10 others that don't care about anything else other than looks/status/etc.

Looks pretty hard, more indications Nissan needs to step up their game for this next z!! I'm pretty excited regardless the more options the better

If Ford's new cars are any indication, it will have a more Aston like look.....which is definitely a good thing :tup:

There are enthusiasts who buy stangs. But enthusiast cars usually arent marketed as such. honeslty speaking. Most buy enthusiast cars cuz thety have knowledge.
But the market isnt comprised of enthusiasts buying those cars. Some enthusiasts will buy Gt's in there affordability range due to the Ford racing factor, but overall those cars dont sell for being enthusiast cars... Period. It's more of an american heritage thing and thats a false sense of enthusiasm. To me an enthusiast really knows what they have and enjoyb the car for more reasons than factory location and social acceptance. Most stang and camaro owners know they have a fast v8. thats it.

Thats the truth

Exactly. That's... uh, my point. And right now the Z is behind. That's literally all I've been saying the entire time.

I am just going to have to disagree with you there. I have been involved with th Z And Mustang for a long time and both enthusiast groups are about the same. There is more focus on stance and hellaflush with the Z, though.

*clears throat

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7JmT0fi5RN...rship+Nerd.jpg


Well technically the M4A1 is a carbine, not a rifle *nerd noises* You were wrong about one little thing which means I'm right about everything. *nerdgasm*

:roflpuke2:


What I just did to M4a1mustang is essentially what this thread has devolved into. :shakes head:

I started to type carbine at first but didn't want to have to explain what that meant after I remembered I was called an ill educated idiot. :rofl2:

It alright, they are all direct impingement....I say yuck to that.

Anyway, Ford is awesome. Nissan is awesome. The juke looks cool. The mustang is fast. Chevy volts and 90s italian cars like to burst into flames. Never eat sushi in Utah. Am I missing something here? Oh yeah, the GTR is a technical marvel that most of us will never own, and by the time half of us can afford it, none of the japanese techno wizardry is going to work anymore.

:tup:

From now on, if yall want to continue this thread, lets discuss the merits of the two companies, venues of positive improvement, and just be happy feely because although its entertaining. I know what happens if this kind of bickering goes on here at the370z.com
Also Steve will school you.:tup:


EDIT: IBTL

It's also better than the Clap....but not much.


Actually, I like it but in GT-R form :D

Well when the mods get off work they will just lock this thread right up. It's run its course, as they like to say.

I would normally say Steve schooled us, but obviously because of the sequester he is feeling the budget cuts on the education system :roflpuke2:

I may just get in trouble for this post:tup:

Herp derp

ur not disagreeing at all. Cuz you are an enthusiast who likes cars. You dont represent 90% of the stang community. Remember the stang sells 10x more than the Z. The ratio and proportion of enthusiasts is higher in the Z than the population of mustang buyers. But the population of mustang enthusiasts is higher than Z enthusiasts. Thats by default.

You're just disagreeing cuz you don't like the way i worded it, but in fact you're agreeing the the stang enthusiasts are a community. not the stang population of buyers.

You need to work in politics man, do you just grab numbers out of mid-air?

Oh yeah, f your Zs and Mustangs, the Cube is awesome!!!! It was one of the better bargains for the price.

In that case, IBTL. :happydance:

I would never own a Cube, but I do appreciate it. I LOVE the Juke though.

However, I know most people are boring and don't like crazy sh!t like I do. :D

I haven't seen a thread with this much quality in a while.

ibtl!

The clap is free, does that make it a bargain, too? :roflpuke2:

:iagree:

I felt at home while reading through this one.

We can agree to disagree. I don't value the AWD and the turbo at a $7000 premium.

Damn this thread is still open? IBTL.

More burn per buck :bowrofl:

I just printed out three copies of this thread and put them in my safe so I can show it to my grand kids.

Will i see you on pawn stars?