I'm not clear what point you are trying to make.

Jungle said:
You replied:
This is what I responded to.


Your reply is completely non-sequiturial, and doesn't line up with what you are claiming to have said above. Can you help me understand what you are trying to convey?

UNKNOWN was simply responding to junglez's trolling. Then you (Red__Zed), never wanting to miss out on a d!ck waving competition jumped into the fray.

Yup, here's hoping the 2015 refresh moves things in the right direction.

Your two word response to my response to someone else confused me as well. But since you jumped in. I assumed you're backing up Jungles point. My only original point is that mustangs and Z's are cheaper versions of higher priced precision cars, and both stang and Z relatively do their individual jobs well.

But most here denounce the Z having good performance thats GENERALLY comparable to a Porsche Cayman.
My point is the Mustang is GENERALLY comparable to a BMW M3. To denounce one(Z/Cayman) from one comparo and praise the other in another (M3/Mustang) shows bias.

Let me make clear the word "GENERALLY", DOES NOT mean the Z is a cheap Cayman twin

Both stang and Z are hatchets compared to the swords which are M3 and Porsche Cayman. What I'm saying is simple. You guys are making it complicated.

If you really read your posts against mine. You're arguing a point we agree on but you're coming from a different approach and concocting an argument.

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You might want to re-read the previous page to catch up:tup:

Fixed:tup:

There's no fun in an argument if all the points made a simple and clear.

To be clear here, the essence of what you said is:

"saying a Mustang handles almost as well as an M3 on a track is like saying a 370z handles almost as good a Porsche"


Which I took issue with, because the handling of the Mustang and M3 are FAR closer than that of the Z and Cayman.

Red so how long you and Blades been dating now? And is Mustang heartbroken???

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On and off for about a year. ;)

MR vs FR and FR vs FR. You took issue with what? So you think the mustang rivals an M3 behind the wheel. The mustang gives you an M3 driving experience?

EDIT: Let me add that not even the M3 will have the balance of the Cayman. Not even the 911 has the balance of a Cayman. just saying.

The Mustang and M3 are closer than the Z and the Cayman. Same thing I've said from the beginning.



In terms of handling, you have the jumbly thing of the 370z or the mustang

Then the M3

Then somewhere off in the distance there is the Cayman.

I agree with that BUT... For an FR, I think the Z does a good job as a 8/10ths Cayman that's half the price.

The mustang might be 9/10th's of a M3 on paper, but behind the wheel. it's still an 8/10ths car that lacks a lot of driver involved feedback.

That's fine.

All I took issue with was the thought that the Z and Mustang were equidistant from their respective targets on the handling front.