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AlphaSnacks 01-14-2013 11:26 PM

This car DOES NOT have a clutch clutch transmission. You are misinterpreting and falling for Infiniti's misleading marketing BS. Dual Clutch control refers to the operation of the electric motor and standard motor driving the car individually or harmoniously.

Also, this VQ37 DOES NOT have direct injection. No idea where you guys are reading this misinformation. Please see below from the official Infiniti Q50 fact sheet:

Engines:

2014 INFINITI Q50 KEY DIMENSIONS AND SPECIFICATIONS
3.7-liter aluminum-alloy DOHC 24-valve V6, rated at 328 horsepower (est.) and 269 lb-ft of torque (est.), featuring Continuously Variable Valve Timing Control System (CVTCS) and Variable Valve Event & Lift (VVEL®)

Infiniti Direct Response HybridTM with Intelligent Dual Clutch Control, combining 3.5-liter 24-valve DOHC aluminum-alloy V6 and compact laminated lithium-ion battery design with an innovative one-motor/two-clutch motor control; V6 rated at 296 horsepower (est.) and 255 lb-ft of torque (est.), advanced 50 kW electric motor rated at 67 horsepower (est.) and 199 lb-ft of torque (est.), Hybrid system net power: 354 horsepower (est.)

Transmissions:

7-speed electronically controlled automatic transmission with Downshift Rev Matching, manual shift mode and Adaptive Shift Control, available steering column- mounted magnesium paddle shifters
Front engine, rear-wheel drive or Intelligent All-Wheel Drive

Cmike2780 01-15-2013 06:55 AM

Yeah I didn't think the direct injection sounded right either, but that's what it said in that article linked in my previous post. I doesn't make sense that they wouldn't make more of a hub bub if they did go DI.

m4a1mustang 01-15-2013 07:45 AM

What a disappointment.

SS_Firehawk 01-15-2013 07:46 AM

If it did have direct torque would not have been the same. And there would have most likely been a power bump. They probably did not feel the need as the drivetrain was more than competitive with other offerings. Makes me question why they even added an exhaust clip.

m4a1mustang 01-15-2013 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2112088)
If it did have direct torque would not have been the same. And there would have most likely been a power bump. They probably did not feel the need as the drivetrain was more than competitive with other offerings. Makes me question why they even added an exhaust clip.

Marketing. To get people talking. I wonder what the new engine is? Is that the new 3.0T?





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SS_Firehawk 01-15-2013 08:10 AM

Rofl

kenchan 01-15-2013 04:45 PM

huh... i like it. the front is a little busy, but i think with lowering and nice set of wheels, it will blend in nicely.

might get this. :)

UNKNOWN_370 01-15-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2112865)
huh... i like it. the front is a little busy, but i think with lowering and nice set of wheels, it will blend in nicely.

might get this. :)

I seen quite a few shots of it. It's really the angle of the pic taken. It's not bad at all. Might get for the wife???

kenchan 01-15-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2112951)
I seen quite a few shots of it. It's really the angle of the pic taken. It's not bad at all. Might get for the wife???

yah, id have to see it in person. not for the wife, probably for me as i dont currently own a AT car. im not really into sedans.... though i wont be getting another coupe until im done with my Z. :)

indyn 01-16-2013 01:19 PM

didn't like it at first with the pictures but liked it when I saw the video on the Infiniti website. Looks sleek and lines are sharper, less curves.
After reading up on the infiniti m35h where the VQ35HR + electric motor is being used, Infiniti might've taken a different route to get performance plus gas efficiency. Electric motors are known for low end torques that might give pretty good off the line numbers.
Will wait and see, the m35h did a high 13 sec on a 1/4 mile, which is heavier car and that number is slightly better than Infiniti M35 v8.
Plus I'm sure you can use all the mods that go on the VQ35HR motor.

SS_Firehawk 01-16-2013 02:41 PM

So we have some magazines and sites reporting wrong info. Firect injection in the 3.7 and saying the 3.5 is an Atkinson cycle motor...that it is not, it would not be making 300hp if tha were the case.

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2013 01:23 AM

We Will Wait 2 Years To See the Q60 coupe.

Infiniti Q60 Coupe Arriving by 2016: Exec Says | AutoGuide.com News

b1adesofcha0s 01-30-2013 08:03 AM

Gheyyyyy

MC 01-30-2013 12:43 PM

thats weird there is such a gap between the sedan and the coupe time wise. so there just wont be a infiniti coupe at the dealership the next 2 years? as in the old G37 coupe will still be on sale or no? im guessing no because of the name overhaul as that would be confusing

but with that said i guess it makes sense as it puts it on a similar timeline to the new Z. as i know there is at least 1 more model year of the 370

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 2138895)
thats weird there is such a gap between the sedan and the coupe time wise. so there just wont be a infiniti coupe at the dealership the next 2 years? as in the old G37 coupe will still be on sale or no? im guessing no because of the name overhaul as that would be confusing

but with that said i guess it makes sense as it puts it on a similar timeline to the new Z. as i know there is at least 1 more model year of the 370

They will probably just run the Gcoupe the whole time till that point or just lapse 1 year without a G, by making 2014 the last year model

b1adesofcha0s 01-30-2013 12:48 PM

I'm guessing they will still sell the G37 coupe to keep their sales up. It's the only coupe they sell.

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2013 10:19 PM

Looks like 2 more engines coming for the Q50 under the 3.7 and 3.5hybrid.

Infiniti's New Q50 Sedan Will Get Turbo-4 and a Diesel from Mercedes - autoevolution

AlphaSnacks 02-01-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2138166)

The G35 coupe lasted quite a bit after the 2nd gen G35 sedan came out. I believe another 18 months, in fact. With the new Q50 launching toward the end of the summer, another 18 months after that will be a 2016 model year.

bigsix 02-01-2013 11:40 PM

I assume Infiniti sells way more sedans than coupes. . .

UNKNOWN_370 02-10-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsix (Post 2143755)
I assume Infiniti sells way more sedans than coupes. . .

40,000 sedans and 20,000 coupes estimated annual sales. Give or take.

bigsix 02-10-2013 11:38 PM

Yep. There ya go . . . 2:1

Iceagetlc 02-13-2013 02:59 PM

God I wish these cars weren't so damned expensive

UNKNOWN_370 02-14-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceagetlc (Post 2163596)
God I wish these cars weren't so damned expensive

When I had my 09 G37s. The economy was shytty and Infiniti's weren't selling well. I got $7,000 incentive and it was deducted from invoice pricing. :) I had a $46,500 car for around $37,500 give or take a few hundred bucks, before ttl. That was the last year they gave large cash incentives but you never know what the future holds incentive-wise??? It might end up cheaper than you think?

UNKNOWN_370 03-16-2013 08:22 PM

I saw the Q50 in person. Here are my opinions:

LOOKS: Pictures don't do it justice. I know many of you are picturing this car being comparable to a 3 series, but it's a new "lithe-hood" design. It's longer than an ATS, 3 series but s midge shorter than a 5 series. The car in reality, just looks like an evolution of the G37 sedan, BUT. It's like they added, dramatic lines, gave it more damatic wheels and has a slightly lower stance. slight but noticeable. The model I saw was the Q50 hybrid and I think if the Infiniti is priced fairly and can at least tie the ATS in performance. (Which I think it will beat in performance?) It will be a popular car.
The front end of the Q50 is nowhere near as awkward as in pics. In fact, it's dramatic and muscular. So muscular that maybe some people may possibly be expecting more from the sedan??? Will it deliver in that category? I don't know... But it sure looks the part. The Q50 is a nice and very classy looking car. nicer than the 3 series by a small margin, Nicer than the ATS by alot.

I find the ATS to be nice in its styling but compared to the Q and BMW, the cadillac lacks the dramatic character lines of the other two... But I think the infiniti makes a bolder statement over the BMW 3 series in terms of looks.

Just on looks... The Q50 is a surprising win. Pictures don't do it justice. I wasn't impressed with the Q looks from photo or video. I don't feel like I saw the greatest car since sliced bread either, But i like it over the other two cars mentioned in terms of style.

The ATS behind the wheel will be hard gto beat. I; m just being homest with that one.

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2013 02:25 PM

Engines:
3.7-liter aluminum-alloy DOHC 24-valve V6, rated at 328 horsepower (est.) and 269 lb-ft of torque (est.), featuring Continuously Variable Valve TimingControl System (CVTCS) and Variable Valve Event & Lift (VVEL®)

Infiniti Direct Response Hybrid™ with Intelligent Dual Clutch Control, combining 3.5-liter 24-valve DOHC aluminum-alloy V6 and compact laminated lithium-ion battery design with an innovative one-motor/two-clutch motor control; V6 rated at 296 horsepower (est.) and 255 lb-ft of torque (est.), advanced 50 kW electric motor rated at 67 horsepower (est.) and 199 lb-ft of torque (est.), Hybrid system net power: 354 horsepower (est.)

Transmission:
7-speed electronically controlled automatic transmission with Downshift Rev Matching, manual shift mode and Adaptive Shift Control, available steering column-mounted magnesium paddle shifters

Drive Configuration:
Front engine, rear-wheel drive or Intelligent All-Wheel Drive

Wheels/Tires:
17-inch aluminum-alloy wheels with machine-finished surface / 225/55R17 all-season run-flat tires

Available 19-inch aluminum-alloy sport wheels / 245/40R19 all-season or summer run-flat tires

Suspension:
4-wheel independent multi-link suspension (front single pivot double-wishbone design/revised rear design) with extensive use of lightweight aluminum components and front and rear stabilizer bars

Braking:
4-wheel power-assisted vented disc brakes, 4-wheel Anti-lock BrakingSystem (ABS), Electronic Brake force Distribution, Brake Assist

Available Sport Brakes with upgraded rotors, 4-piston front calipers and 2-piston rear calipers

Steering:
Vehicle-speed-sensitive power steering

Available Direct Adaptive Steering™ technology for enhanced steering feel and personalized dynamic customization

Wheelbase: 112.2 inches
Length: 188.3 inches
Width: 71.8 inches
Height: 56.8 inches
Coefficient of drag: 0.26
Seating Capacity: 5-passenger

Exterior Features:
Sensuous dynamic styling with unexpected spaciousness; purpose-built for performance with low, wide proportions and tight, athletic stance; Infiniti signature "double arch" front grille, dynamic arch silhouette and Crescent-cut C-pillar; distinctive LED head lamps and lighting (headlights, fog lights and marker lights), LED rear combination lights; available sport front fascia; eight available premium exterior colors; advanced aerodynamic design with 0.26 coefficient of drag and zero front and rear lift

Interior Features:
Driver-oriented center stack/console with asymmetric design; natural contour ergonomic-design front seats for enhanced comfort; available leather-appointed seating; available heated front seats and heated steering wheel; Fine Vision electroluminescent instrumentation; "Kacchu" aluminum interior trim; available "Fukiurushi" maple wood trim; Dual-Zone Automatic Temperature Control, available Advanced Climate Control System (ACCS) with Plasmacluster® air purifier; customizable digital environment for storing and providing various driver settings and driving characteristics to i-Key; Bluetooth® Hands-free Phone System; RearView Monitor

Technology Features:
Infiniti InTouch™ next-generation Human Machine Interface with dual touch-screen displays and smartphone connectivity; next-generation Studio on Wheels by Bose® audio system with instrument panel speaker array and up to 14 total speakers, Advanced Staging Technology®; Around View® Monitor with Moving Object Detection; HEV sound management technologies, including available Active Noise Control

Infiniti Connection™ featuring Automatic Collision Notification, Drive Zone monitoring, Google Calendar™, and Destination Assistance via Infiniti Personal Assistant (complimentary for the first 12 months of ownership)

Available Safety Shield technologies with Intelligent Cruise Control with Full Speed Range, predictive Forward Collision Warning, Forward Emergency Braking, Distance Control Assist, Blind Spot Intervention®, Back-up Collision Intervention, Lane Departure Prevention, Active Lane Control™ (world’s first production Direct Adaptive Steering technology), High Beam Assist

Available dynamic performance enhancement systems, including Active Trace Control by advanced Vehicle Dynamic Contro
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UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2013 02:27 PM

The Q50 has a drag coefficiency of .26. Damn that's GT-R status right there. Good sign.

bigsix 03-21-2013 02:43 PM

I was reading the article in Motor Trend laying out the details of the Q50:

-the VQ37 will continue to be the main engine, while a hybrid will be 'optional'

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsix (Post 2225553)
I was reading the article in Motor Trend laying out the details of the Q50:

-the VQ37 will continue to be the main engine, while a hybrid will be 'optional'

Yeah and no CVT and it looks like the hybrid is not just a test engine... :roflpuke2:

AlphaSnacks 03-21-2013 04:39 PM

That was all established early on in the reveal.

kenchan 03-21-2013 04:40 PM

im not sure... with all of the sedans out there, i think i would consider the new Accord v6 over this Q50.

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2225811)
im not sure... with all of the sedans out there, i think i would consider the new Accord v6 over this Q50.

FWD???? Ewwwww.

I'd look at the ATS. I advise you test drive the 2.0T. It's an amazing car.

American will shock the shyt out of you with the ATS. I'm still in shock 5 days later. I just never expected an american car to be that good. First the 1LE, now the ATS 2.0

kenchan 03-21-2013 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2225907)
FWD???? Ewwwww.

I'd look at the ATS. I advise you test drive the 2.0T. It's an amazing car.

American will shock the shyt out of you with the ATS. I'm still in shock 5 days later. I just never expected an american car to be that good. First the 1LE, now the ATS 2.0

but it's a SEDAN. wtf cares... FWD, RWD, it's a f-king sedan.... :ugh2:

well, that's my opinion. :icon17:

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2225992)
but it's a SEDAN. wtf cares... FWD, RWD, it's a f-king sedan.... :ugh2:

well, that's my opinion. :icon17:

That's my general opinion too but, that sedan was good enough to feel like a coupe. I hope they decide to go with an ATS coupe. If the ATS is any sign of the next gen camaro??? America might be a much stronger competitor in sport coupes under $45,000 by 2016???

ZBro16 03-22-2013 08:45 AM

I have always been a fan of sedans that offer functionality plus performance.

I have always been a big STi/Evo fan. I am stoked at the idea of an Audi RS7. Absolutely LOVE the new BMW M5. I may be one of the few that really likes the Infiniti M56S (if it were a stick, I would dump both of my cars and buy one.) I would have an M5 if I didn't need to take out a mortgage to afford one.

An ATS-V would probably rock my world. The CTS-V is wonderful, but for some reason, after seeing the ATS, I feel very "meh" towards it. I haven't driven any of these yet, but the ATS is just gorgeous. It looks like GM got a lot right with this one (whoever is running cadillac is just kicking *** all around anyway).

I hope Infiniti gets very serious about their IPL lineup. This 3.5% power bump crap isn't cutting it.

kenchan 03-22-2013 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2226221)
That's my general opinion too but, that sedan was good enough to feel like a coupe. I hope they decide to go with an ATS coupe. If the ATS is any sign of the next gen camaro??? America might be a much stronger competitor in sport coupes under $45,000 by 2016???

i donno, im not a big fan of caddy's coupes. they look weird. some cars are best in sedan from. cts looks good in sedan. also benz. they look nice as sedans.

but do they have to be RWD? naw... to me it's just a passenger car. as long as it looks nice and travels nicely, who cares.

bigsix 03-22-2013 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2227494)
i donno, im not a big fan of caddy's coupes. they look weird. some cars are best in sedan from. cts looks good in sedan. also benz. they look nice as sedans.

but do they have to be RWD? naw... to me it's just a passenger car. as long as it looks nice and travels nicely, who cares.

yeah, sometimes it's better to be concerned with How Well a Car Drives instead of if it's Rear Wheel Drive or Not, ya kno ?

UNKNOWN_370 03-23-2013 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2227494)
i donno, im not a big fan of caddy's coupes. they look weird. some cars are best in sedan from. cts looks good in sedan. also benz. they look nice as sedans.

but do they have to be RWD? naw... to me it's just a passenger car. as long as it looks nice and travels nicely, who cares.

Naw, not really, but it just depends what you're trying to get out of a car? You were considering the Q50 so i thought you were trying to incorporate driving enjoyment into your car. But if you're just looking for a nice comfortable ride with generically good/capable handling. Then no it doesn't matter. My wife has an altima. Handles well for what it is. Ride is caddy smooth and interior is very quiet.

I was just under the impression you were looking for performance out of your sedan as well.

kenchan 03-24-2013 04:15 PM

fwd is more then capable for street use imho for a sedan. :)
not like im going to be racing with it anyway.


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