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DCNISMO 12-02-2012 08:56 PM

I test drove a CTSV
 
Wow, that's addicting power. After that the Nismo felt pretty slow. It was an 09 with only 22 k miles, recaro seats and open sky sun roof. They offered me 29k for my Nismo. I may just go buy the monster. I played with the magnetic ride and the traction control. They are independent, You can set sport suspension with regular or minimal TC or turn it off. Handling it's pretty good given the weight and size. Has nav, XM, Bluetooth, heated seats...
Best part? With simple mods you can make really obscene power. Intake, pulley, belt, idler, and tune for 1k or so adds 100 HP and lots of torque.

bigsix 12-02-2012 09:29 PM

It's always a special sighting when a CTS-V passes by. Kind of like Corvette drivers, they're usually going along pretty slow.

So, is the engine the dominating part of the driving experience ? ? ?

Recently riding in an ATS 4 3.6, the handling stood out to me .

DCNISMO 12-03-2012 07:24 AM

Yes, that supercharged 6.2 liter just pulled and pulled. I did not have a chance to drive on any real twisty roads, but what I did drive on the handling was good, given the size and weight of the car. It was very comparable to driving a German performance sedan. No rattles or wind noise, very planted and stable, no nervous feeling in the back and no wheel hop. All those things happened in the previous generation. That one felt like a big engine was stuffed in the car as an afterthought. This latest version felt like it was designed from the start to have the big powerful engine and its all integrated together. Only issue on this one is the basic warranty is over and its not certified. Checking the V sites, I have not found any big issues or items going bad on them though. So looks like minimal warranty repairs so far.

Red__Zed 12-03-2012 08:04 AM

They are insane cars. I would love to put one on my 3 year roadmap

SS_Firehawk 12-03-2012 08:05 AM

I would love to have a CTS-V Wagon as a daily. Maybe for the Wife lol. I told her she can have one if she gets it in manual and Recaro's. She agreed... My bank account doesn't

DCNISMO 12-03-2012 05:17 PM

I just brought it home this evening. It's a monster but very smooth and quiet. Dynamatt not needed. I'll post pics later. I paid 44k for it and bought a warranty from GM. I got 29k on the Nismo for trade. So I'm happy.

W.O.W. 370Z 12-03-2012 05:39 PM

Congrats. I am selling Z for a CTS V sedan.

Interested to see how my TT Z compares to the V as a daily.

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DJ-of-E 12-03-2012 05:58 PM

You will like the V more than TT Z. Despite its weight, Cadillac did a darn good job on its suspension. I've driven one with a CTS-V group at Willow Springs and its cornering is no joke. Even put doubts when I had my 370z.

Z-Girl 12 12-03-2012 07:00 PM

I wanna see it! I wanna see it! Congrats! I love that car...shockingly with its sharp edges! I saw a balck one driving past me on 75N headed into Atlanta. All that stood out to me were these huge calipers that were gold or something and the insane exhaust pipe housing. All I could do was drool and putter on in mym lil Z.

DCNISMO 12-03-2012 08:57 PM

Mine is black with black interior. I just finished the home link transmitter pairing and the bluetooth pairing. I'm reading through the manual now, it's got all kinds of things to set. The seat, steering column, and other presets. They come with silver brake calipers but if you got updated brakes the calipers are red or yellow. I have tons to learn about it. It's actually very docile till you wake it up, so driving home in DC was no problem. The clutch has a much better feel than the Z did. I'll upload the crappy cell pic in a bit. Here are two pics....

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/c...res/photo5.jpg

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/c...res/photo3.jpg

SS_Firehawk 12-04-2012 12:30 AM

Lucky man. CG's

Ackrite 12-04-2012 12:32 AM

Congratulations. I would love to have one of them. Now go out and tint that b***h

Trips 12-04-2012 12:35 AM

Congrats!!! :tup:

Boost_lee 12-04-2012 12:40 AM

nice! I'd love a coupe or wagon in the future

zmojo 12-04-2012 01:06 PM

Good Luck with it, most of the new corvette owners and caddy based vettes tend to trade them at about 20-30K, because that is when the problems start to appear on them. If you have time to buy an extra bumper to bumper waranty then you should take, you will probably need it.

If I were you and wanted a bigger car, I would have went with a loaded maxima or a loaded altima.

DJ-of-E 12-04-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zmojo (Post 2045439)
If I were you and wanted a bigger car, I would have went with a loaded maxima or a loaded altima.

but if you have money to burn and want a bigger car for family, a CTS-V isn't necessarily a bad choice. Otherwise if family and funds are the issue, you would've gone for a loaded Camry 4-cylinder camry or Honda Accord for reliability and price. :tiphat:

DCNISMO 12-04-2012 02:21 PM

I did lots of research. Many V's have well over 30 and 40 k miles with no problems and ones that pop up are minor. Many of them get modded and tracked. It drinks gas though!

W.O.W. 370Z 12-04-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 2045556)
I did lots of research. Many V's have well over 30 and 40 k miles with no problems and ones that pop up are minor. Many of them get modded and tracked. It drinks gas though!

What year did you buy?

These cars actually offer great reliability considering what you are getting.

Issues owners have had are minimal.

More issues with the Z imho.

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DCNISMO 12-04-2012 05:58 PM

It's an 09 with 22k miles. I bought the GM warranty for three years.

speedworks 12-04-2012 06:07 PM

Great choice! I actually sold my Z, to maybe buy one of these. Couldn't find one local that I liked, that I wanted (6speed). I was also struggling with paying 40k for a used car. I ended up buying a cheap 06 BMW 330i until I decide what to really buy.

Jealous.

emx620 12-04-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmojo (Post 2045439)
Good Luck with it, most of the new corvette owners and caddy based vettes tend to trade them at about 20-30K, because that is when the problems start to appear on them. If you have time to buy an extra bumper to bumper waranty then you should take, you will probably need it.

If I were you and wanted a bigger car, I would have went with a loaded maxima or a loaded altima.

Um, yeah, I'm not sure what page you're on but an Altima is on a different planet in regards to acceleration, which I'd like to think most CTS-V buyers are going after. Not sure where you're getting your "information" but I don't think its credible with regards to users selling due to "reliability", especially considering you can get 100k/7YR warranties these days.

Ni55anPat 12-04-2012 08:30 PM

congrats!

cossie1600 12-04-2012 08:40 PM

haha I am not sure CTS buyers are cross shopping with Altima and Maxima

DCNISMO 12-04-2012 09:01 PM

I looked for a six speed with Recaro sets for a long time. It was hard to accept paying that for a used car till I considered that a new one with the options I have is close to 70k brand new. It was a one owner car without a single scratch, so it was orth it when they gave me 29k for the Z.

Waiz 12-05-2012 01:16 PM

Congrats OP, I really want a wagon in the future so I you will have to keep us updated with how the car hold up for you over time :tup:

Z-Girl 12 12-05-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmojo (Post 2045439)
Good Luck with it, most of the new corvette owners and caddy based vettes tend to trade them at about 20-30K, because that is when the problems start to appear on them. If you have time to buy an extra bumper to bumper waranty then you should take, you will probably need it.

If I were you and wanted a bigger car, I would have went with a loaded maxima or a loaded altima.

What did u just say?

Z-Girl 12 12-05-2012 05:39 PM

The coupe is so sexy...if my pockets were deep enuff I'd def rock the coupe. Nice choice though! Congrats!

zmojo 12-05-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 2044469)
I just brought it home this evening. It's a monster but very smooth and quiet. Dynamatt not needed. I'll post pics later. I paid 44k for it and bought a warranty from GM. I got 29k on the Nismo for trade. So I'm happy.

Hate to tell you this , but looking at the deal you made, it seems you may have over paid.

Wholesale price on your 2011 Z $26,500 and $29,000 trade in and the CTS-V is $31,500 wholesale and $36,500 trade in. So a better deal would have been your Z and $7000 -$7500.
When buying a used car you should never pay more than $1000 more than trade in price, because in most cases dealers never pay more than wholesale for a car, they took in trade.

DCNISMO 12-05-2012 08:42 PM

Your not going to get a low mileage 2 nd generation V with those options for 37k, as you suggest that's not going to happen. If you do, post a copy of that bill of sale. That's silly. It's supply and demand. A low miles 1st generation V might go for that with the 5.7 liter engine. I'll gladly say I overpaid 7 k when you post an actual bill of sale from a real dealer.

zmojo 12-05-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 2047422)
Your not going to get a low mileage 2 nd generation V with those options for 37k, as you suggest that's not going to happen. If you do, post a copy of that bill of sale. That's silly. It's supply and demand. A low miles 1st generation V might go for that with the 5.7 liter engine. I'll gladly say I overpaid 7 k when you post an actual bill of sale from a real dealer.

Simple facts, look up the prices on New Cars, Used Cars, Car Reviews and Pricing - Edmunds.com

When a dealer buys your car they never give you no more than wholesale value in most cases and then make huge profits by trying to sell your trade in at full retail.

When you buy a used car you have to calculate the deal using what the actual wholesale value of your trade in is and what you could buy the new used car you want for a clean deal cash value. Then the dealer should only make around $1000-$2000 on the total deal in profit.

RoshDawg 12-05-2012 10:23 PM

DCNISMO! CONGRATS! I do not believe you overpaid, and you got a good trade in value as well! Also I remember reading a long term test of the CTS V by (I think) Car and Driver. They only had absolutely amazing things to say about it and never ran into any problems. I bet that thing hauls ***!

RoshDawg 12-05-2012 10:27 PM

Found it!
2011 Cadillac CTS-V Wagon Long-Term Test – Review – Car and Driver

DCNISMO 12-06-2012 12:12 PM

V wagons are pretty rare, even more if its a manual 6 speed.

DCNISMO 12-06-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

When you buy a used car you have to calculate the deal using what the actual wholesale value of your trade in is and what you could buy the new used car you want for a clean deal cash value. Then the dealer should only make around $1000-$2000 on the total deal in profit.
Well, I don't deal in shoulds and show me that bill of sale..... I fully know they make more money on used car sales than new ones. For some cars maybe you can get that deal you described, but its not going to happen to a high dollar luxury car....maybe for a Sentra or Civic, sure. They had two offers on the V when I got there, but I was the first one to cut a check and do a deal.

Red__Zed 12-06-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmojo (Post 2047314)
Hate to tell you this , but looking at the deal you made, it seems you may have over paid.

Wholesale price on your 2011 Z $26,500 and $29,000 trade in and the CTS-V is $31,500 wholesale and $36,500 trade in. So a better deal would have been your Z and $7000 -$7500.
When buying a used car you should never pay more than $1000 more than trade in price, because in most cases dealers never pay more than wholesale for a car, they took in trade.

If you can get that kind of deal, I'll take two.

m4a1mustang 12-06-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2048470)
If you can get that kind of deal, I'll take two.

Make that three.

theDreamer 12-06-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2048473)
Make that three.

I will take the 4th one!

zmojo 12-06-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 2048336)
Well, I don't deal in shoulds and show me that bill of sale..... I fully know they make more money on used car sales than new ones. For some cars maybe you can get that deal you described, but its not going to happen to a high dollar luxury car....maybe for a Sentra or Civic, sure. They had two offers on the V when I got there, but I was the first one to cut a check and do a deal.

Basic dealer BS if they had firm offers for the car then they would have been under contract and couldn't sell it to you.
When you buy a used car you have to factor in that, if you had to sell the car the very next day, what could you unload it for with in 48hrs.

The cars worth $31500 - $36000 max, nothing about would, could or show me, just simple buying practices.

Red__Zed 12-06-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmojo (Post 2048478)
Basic dealer BS if they had firm offers for the car then they would have been under contract and couldn't sell it to you.
When you buy a used car you have to factor in that, if you had to sell the car the very next day, what could you unload it for with in 48hrs.

The cars worth $31500 - $36000 max, nothing about would, could or show me, just simple buying practices.

Are you offering to sell one in that range?

Ubetit 12-06-2012 01:54 PM

Obvious troll is obvious


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