2010 Z Sport to 2013 Mustang GT
 

Decided that it's time for something new so I am trading in my 2010 370Z Sport and buying a 2013 Mustang GT with the Track Pack, 6spd manual and Recaros. Ordered it today and should have it in 5-6 weeks. I will have some items for sale soon too including:

- Custom Front Crash Beam, replaces stock beam to allow for larger filters and velocity stacks on. Will sell for $150 plus actual shipping.

- Stillen Gen 3's, custom welded one-piece tubes with heat shield foil barrier applied. Comes with two velocity stacks and appropriate filters (to be used with the above crash beam). Likely to sell these for $320 + stock intakes exchange.

- One pair of stock catalytic converters. Likely to sell for $80+shipping.

Nice choice. Enjoy the American muscle !

I just drove one of those yesterday. They're nice.

I like my Zed better, but I can't blame you for the switch. :)

I test drove a 13 Mustang GT two weeks ago. Also a track pack, 6 speed car with 373 rear. WOW! Tremendous HP and torque. Love the sound of the V8. We couldn't reach agreement on my trade so the deal didn't happen. Enjoy your car.

Nice, I am actually in the market and cant decide if I want a powerful v8 (isnt too great on gas), or good v6 (better mpg than mustang). Of course if I was to get a Mustang it'd have to be in only one color...

Deep Impact Blue!

Mmm dat torque will be nice... Congrats

Mustangs do nothing for me though, hate their owners. All they do is rev their engines and then go back home when they get smoked by my cousins Z06. I would get a BOSS 302 though, Shelby expensive!

Thx all, can't wait!

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Keep it stock , coyote engines are failing left and right

yea, kind of odd. They are telling dealers to void warranties if any modifications are found. Apparently the engine is maxed out, could just be PR BS.

Odd that ford would sell a tune that was unsafe with a warranty, but mine will stay stock except for maybe an x pipe with stock cats and mufflers

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This is the first I'm hearing this.


(Off to Google)

This is from a 45 year old veteran Tech who works mainly with LS motors and muscle cars.

"As for the motor, it is absolute ****. The pistons and rods are CHEAP CAST JUNK. I'm amazed that ford would build an engine with such inferior parts. If you buy one of the cars, DO NOT attempt to install blowers, turbo's, or nitrous without first rebuilding the motor with quality internals. You will inevitably have a catastrophic failure in short order. We took the stock pistons and rods to our local machine shop/engine builder and he started laughing histerically when he examined them. I also contacted a friend a the local ford dealer,and he told me they had seen several failures of the pistons already. The problem is the castings, they are extremely poor quality. The piston that failed in our motor shows zero signs of trauma on the surface, but a large section between the upper and lower rings simply cracked and fell apart, taking the rings with it. You can see looking at it closely that there are small air bubbles in the aluminum. Anyway, i'm not ford bashing here, between myself and my brothers, we've owned 6 different stangs in the past 15 years, and I was hoping for good things from the new models. Not gonna happen though. My advice would be to save your money for the Boss, or gt500 versions with forged internals, as the standard 5.0 is a turd. Oh and don't mod a car thats not paid off. Our customer is not a happy man as he still owe's 30k on a car with bad pistons and NO warranty. I'll get some detailed pics of the pistons up on tues so you can see what i'm talking about."

The air bubbles are porosity that is present in all castings, there is a spec for the max allowed. This level is then validated to peak cylinder pressure over an engine durability cycle. With advancement in technology companies are engineerining the "excess" safety factor out of the designs. It's not junk, it's actually more optimized than you believe. Your problem is that they did not engineer in a huge safety factor so you can mod it, poorly calibrate, and still expect it to live.

Although a cracked land is a telltale sign of abuse. The 5.0s with a supercharger kit still can get warranties(roush).

It will stay stock either way, 420hp is enough for my needs. A muffler set may go on but nothing else.

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First time I'm hearing that too, and I'm a regular at SVTP. Maybe I need to check out a more technical forum.

Also the same thing could be said about Z06, owners are douchebags, all they do is rev their motors and get smoked by GTR's.
I don't know how its possible but I see more Corvette fails than Mustang fails. The best being a c6z owner attempting to do a burn out but instead frys the clutch.

Now dont get me wrong, I would take a c6z over a GTR any day... :stirthepot:
BUT I would take a '13 GT500 over a c6z. All my pref of course! :p

I get horrible mileage out of my 370Z. About 27 on the highway. I am betting the mustang GT probably comes very close to that.

Not arguing, just haven't kept up with them because I don't like the car that much. What's popping on them, specifically?

is 27 highway the norm? i get 20/21 with mixed driving.

What's even funnier are the 370Z owners who don't know a gag video when they see one. That one's old news.

I don't know. I got 19-22 in my 505 hp Z06 mixed driving and 26 on the highway.

Pretty lame that a 332bhp motor doesn't do any better in a car of similar weight with lighter tires and driveline components and a lower drag coefficient.

That is one of my few sore points about my 370Z purchase. I expected mpg to be around 30 if I babied it on the freeway and 22-24 mixed.

The only real issues the new 5.0 is having is number 8 cylinder is coming apart. It might be an issue with cooling or it leaning out. Guys with good tunes are having no issues out of them even with kenne bells or turbos. Of course its always a good idea to go forged but I suspect most issues are with poor tunes. Any engine is susceptible to that problem.
Of course the manual trans is a bit of a turd though. Its a chinese built getrag. There are already several guys with rebuilt mt82s (getrag) or they swap to a tr6060. I wouldnt be concerned doing full bolt ons or a low pressure FI setup.
Thats the same concerns I have for the VQ though...

I put my rustang in neutral when I pass jimmies so as not to rustle them.

Cooling should hopefully be under control. The car has a factory engine oil cooler and the upgraded radiator from the Boss 302 as part of the Track Pack.

My 13 GT is an automatic. My drive to work is 40% surface street, 60% highway and I'm averaging 19.8 after 2700 miles.


Cool deal Chris!

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I get about the same mileage out of my 5.0 as I did from my 370z

Ford TSB Warns Of Modifications To 2011-2012 5.0 Mustangs

Really hope it's just BS, would suck if the platform doesn't put up with mods (of any kind) well.

What's the word on the street? Are dealers voiding warranties?

The boss 302 has forged internals? That is news to me.
Also have not heard about the mustang having major issues like this. I mean, I have seen videos of the 5.0 running 10 pounds of boost and going down the 1/4 mile weekend after weekend with no built motor.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

And, as a lot of people have stated, fuel mileage isn't the number one consideration with a sports car. But the 5.0 shouldn't be any worse on gas than a Z in practical use.

Well that sucks! Here I am trying to justify a new (new to me) car purchase since my 93 Camry as a DD blows on MPG. Guess I'm going to save for a bit for a DIB 5.0.

That does suck considering how light the 370z is and how heavier v8's are getting the same mpg ratings.

You shoulda listened to us when we told you import. You had plenty of research for 2 years on that. You bought the Z anyway. Don't complain now.

If you want gas mileage, neither the 5.0 nor the 370z will do it for you.

Well congrats on your new stang. It seems the stang only gets better. On motorweek, they said, they even got higher quality sheetmetal and paint. They are cooling it the highest quality stang to date. I'm surprised the stang got to 60 in only 5.1 seconds with the automatic considering manual numbers. But the stang is looking better by the year.

I'm excited to see the next gen. I seen a few sketches and im eager to see what comes of it. The main ford sketch is beautiful.

:iagree: FRS in an auto gets about 30mpg combined. the gencoupe 2.0 about 26mpg's... Otherwise, they gonna have to deal with it.

v6 mustang isn't bad either, and frankly still pretty quick. Not sure I'd be ok with driving one though:icon17:

It's ok most people don't know the difference (or dont care).

you're talking about the v6 right?

nope... The Gt automatic. It was on this morning, motorweek.

just to be clear, the one with a 13.5 second quarter mile time?

Not trying to insult anyone with a V6 musclecar but... I could never do v6 in a stang, camaro etc. I know these cars by heritage always had the transportation version. But it don't make it right. lol :shakes head: