Pretty much. When some kid can go grab his mom's Camry V6 and run a very low 14 or high 13, I realized drag racing's standards were changing. Running a low/mid-13 in a 4G Camaro was pretty solid, and Mustangs then were running high 13's/low 14's for a "muscle car". For EG Civics, "breaking into the 14's" was considered an accomplishment.

And then you realized, it was slow as piss, when some guy can get some piece of **** 4th Gen Auto F-body, throw an intake/exhaust/stall on it and decent drag radials, and hey - welcome to mid-11's! Faster than BOTH of the car's we're discussing for a fraction of the price and half the horsepower.

'Nuff said.

I didn't know Camry's could run that fast. My cousin hasn't even broke into the 13's yet with his 350Z :icon17:

I'm hoping to finally break into the 12's again with these new tires. Just waiting for a Friday night with decent temps now.

Sorry, my bad - looks like they're right around low-14's in the 1/4.

Toyota Camry V6 lap times and specs - FastestLaps.com

Although SOME jackass probably broke into the 13s with theirs lol.

Yup looks like someone did it with a modded one :bowrofl:

Toyota Camry 1/4 Mile Drag Racing Timeslips - DragTimes.com

I realize this is way off topic, but I have a friend who once converted his Toyota Camry from Automatic to Manual Transmission, just to see if he could. :D

As long as he didnt swap it because he thought it was cooler and he'd save money, since it's far cheaper to just buy one with it already built in 90% of the time :(.

But doing it just because he wanted to see if he could? Gearhead points.

It is hard to compare purpose built drag cars to cars that are made to do more.

Trust me, I know more about the struggles of breaking into the 9s than most here.

What do you know about 9s? You don't even know a thing about FI Hondas.

Spending 2 years learning how to FI Hondas sounds pretty difficult :icon17:

Damn rice burners and their 9 second eigth mile times

Reminds me of my Supra when my VPC broke so I could not launch the car with the big turbo :-( On a slick, my car basically rolling out in 1st then getting on it ran a 12.0 @ 126mph and that was on my street tune. I never bothered with my high boost setting because when the VPC died, the car would fall on its face between shifts...very frustrating.

Drag racing to me is a "fun" activity but one that I could not take seriously unless I was pushing 9's in a fully built car. Of course...after racing motorcycles there's honestly not much that cars do to really get me worked up. It's hard to top dragging knee/elbow knowing that one small twist leads to a great lap or breakfast in a hosptial.

Back to the topic...it's hard to disagree that there is a bias towards the camaro. I think if I were to come across a ZL-1 I would give him thumbs up, they are a bad *** car...sadly with ALL cars you end up with some people who are jack asses. I will tell you that a lot of Supra owners (especially the ones with big turbos) had such an arrogance that although I had the car myself I could not stand their attitude towards everyone. That's where you separate speed lovers and people who need a fast car to compensate for a lack of self confidence.

There is a bias. In car magazines, the best car is usually the one made by the company who wets the magazine's whistle the most. It's subtle when the comparisons are close, but sometimes it's glaringly obvious who the writer wants to win, even against all logic.

A note on supra driving jackazzes, there was one at Zdayz. Whole resort packed with RWD sports cars pushing out over 300 hp, and the only person doing donuts and burnouts is in a riced out Supra. :shakes head:

A couple of days on LS1Tech.com can easily make you feel the same lol

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

They are the reason I ended up selling my Supra, at one point it was a respected car however, after F&F came out and people started ricing them out...cops would follow me all the time and any excuse to pull me over they would. I had enough and sold the car...and on a good note ended up with quite a bit in my pocket since I sold it for what I bought it for new :tup:

I am happy that for the most part the import scene has calmed down but at one point I will admit that it was pretty entertaining.