Haven't made any decisions yet as far as the civic and the ms3 the comment above makes me weary to get the Mazda now.... Makes me feel like the civic would be better

Make no mistake, the MS3 will walk all over the Civic in a race (stock for stock). However, the Civic is a more reliable motor, has a smoother transmission and shifter, etc.

For me, I would consider the Civic and add some supporting mods or a small roots supercharger for a fun ride on a budget. :tup:

Not thatd I'd mod a car beyon the exhaust and intake."

True point ...

Post pics.

I wouldn't sign until tonight but having hesitation...

MS3 all the way. You are making the right choice. My friend has modded his, (new rail pump, springs, sways, intake, turbo inlet pipe, and a tune and its a blast) Handles surprisingly well too

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Well I want to own a reliable car! That guy said maybe the Honda would be more reliable. I don't know what to do boss... Get a new civic or ms3....

MS3!!!! Just leave it stock after intake exhaust and a EASY stage 1 tune. Watch out for cobbs stage 2 map my buddy was having all kinda of problems with it

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What?! Either I could order a new civic with hip and navi or get the ms3 tonight. Honda guy made a good point about resale... I don't want to have a shittier car than now... ESP if brand new

The MS3 would be more fun to drive around and own. I think the Mazda is more of a driver's car, but the Si would be easier to live with day to day. Also a lot fewer MS3's... around me anyways. If you're into modding, the parts bin selection advantage goes to the Si, but you probably already know that. The Civic has been modded to death though and it's nearly impossible to do something original with that car.

I personally would skip those two and go with a Mini Cooper or wait for the BRZ.

MS3 have awesome resale value...

Sounds like you need to step back and think some more.

I just want an honest answer
Reliability
Resale

Mini is a fun car. It's like a go kart and will surprise you.

Actually of all those choices I would wait until summer so you can see the FRS/BRZ . Same power as civic si, but to the proper wheels. :tup:

Do some research! :tup:

Cause my Hondas been reliable ... Ugh

Pros to the Honda were the navi
Pros to ms3 were options plus HP

**** what do I honestly do

get the mazda! who wants to own two civics in a row...? no offense or anything,,

Keep calm and carry on. Do some more research. Test drive. Decide.

Honda has dropped off in reliability recently as seen with downgrades by all the mags, that will in turn effect resale. This makes it hard to start comparing everything.

However,I still feel if those are the only two things you're most concerned with Honda would be a safe choice.

I have been! People love their ms3 and civic....

Very true!

I know it's not a fair assesment, but if the build quality on the MS3 was anything like my RX-8, I would re-think it. The rotary engine was finicky to begin with though, and either car is plenty reliable if you don't go crazy with the mods. That's what warranties are for. Get an extented if you need the piece of mind and limit you're mods to a CBE, intake, etc.

What's your recommendation

MS3 over Civic.

But I'd take a Mini Cooper S over either.

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Add a poll maybe?

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a mini over a MS3?!?! noooooooooooooo

Ok here's my 2¢. I had a 2001 Civic EX, loved it. It's a comfy car, not super expensive, and is very reliable. Gets great mileage.

My wife has a 2004 Civic EX, and she likes it. It's got over 100,000 miles on it and aside from a window motor going out, we have never had a problem with it.

If you want an inexpensive, reliable car that you're not going to mod much or try to race, the Civic is a great choice. If you care about sportier performance, get the MS3. A friend of mine has it and he loves it.

Mini is lighter and more refined. Plus doesn't the S have a turbo as well?

Yea it does I think or its S/Cd but.. idk why that car is just as bad as a beetle to me. Whenever I see a guy driving one I just wanna :rofl2:

I absolutely agree...

The only thing i never liked about it was the speedo, it reminds me of a grandfather clock inside a car. way too big for such a small car.

yea the first time I saw the inside I was like... huh? Part of me not being a fan is probably because im almost 6'4.. needless to say that car is just way to small in my eyes

I'm 6'5" :tup:

and you would drive a mini over a MS3?!? :eek: damn maybe im just a hater... :rofl2:

The minis are as gay as tha Ferrari guy. Anyways poll added.