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kenchan 03-26-2012 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1621117)
as a lucky owner i have both a wrx and a z. yes, not an STi, but as mentioned previously, it's not like the difference is that big.
lucky? i thought you said it was all skillz. :confused: :p

TerribleONE 03-26-2012 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1621117)
having a good discussion. you?



really? all of my subie friends are all okay. i know people who have everything from the gc8 until the latest grb / gh8, and they're fine. everybody freaked out over the 2008 ringland issue, but that was for the most part resolved. the people i know who have issues are the ones who messed with their engines without ever learning what "leaning out" means. be prepared for a strange world where everybody <3s exhausts and free HP...but anything more will rip a humongous hole in your wallet.

as a lucky owner i have both a wrx and a z. yes, not an STi, but as mentioned previously, it's not like the difference is that big. yes, the transmission is different and the WRX obviously gets the short end of the stick in that department, but aside from the transmission there really isn't much different. even the body panels are the same. and personally, i drive the subaru EVERYWHERE. even to z meets :rofl2: don't get me wrong the Z is a fun car but it's exactly that...a fun car. weekend warrior to me. if you want something more practical, the hatch WRX / STi is a good car.

and can't compare the z cars being more safe because AWD lets go, this and that happens. that's just people needing to learn more about their cars. driver knowledge goes a long way.
Maybe my friends just abused them.. but yea I have seen tons of horror stories. I still <3 subies though.

phelan 03-26-2012 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1621126)
Maybe my friends just abused them.. but yea I have seen tons of horror stories. I still <3 subies though.
bad press does tend to go farther in the media :p

i'm quite happy with my subaru. although it was angry at me when i tried to do an AWD drift at a track event. subarus aren't meant to drift unless it's over snow / inclement weather :rofl2:

m4a1mustang 03-26-2012 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1621132)
bad press does tend to go farther in the media :p

i'm quite happy with my subaru. although it was angry at me when i tried to do an AWD drift at a track event. subarus aren't meant to drift unless it's over snow / inclement weather :rofl2:
Well, you just need to have more power to drift it on dry pavement. :p

It's like if I tried to do a burnout in the S2000. :bowrofl:

TerribleONE 03-26-2012 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1621139)
Well, you just need to have more power to drift it on dry pavement. :p

It's like if I tried to do a burnout in the S2000. :bowrofl:
:bowrofl::bowrofl: I heard you can chirp the tires if you dump the clutch at 6k

m4a1mustang 03-26-2012 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1621146)
:bowrofl::bowrofl: I heard you can chirp the tires if you dump the clutch at 6k
Yeah pretty much. :icon17:

phelan 03-26-2012 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1621139)
Well, you just need to have more power to drift it on dry pavement. :p

It's like if I tried to do a burnout in the S2000. :bowrofl:
i'd pay to see this :drama:

but yes the WRX out of the box....don't try drifting it :roflpuke2: the subaru gets a little unhappy.

kenchan 03-26-2012 11:32 AM
lol...

Baconboy 03-26-2012 11:35 AM
My wife got a new STi last weekend, and I have the 40th Anniversary 370Z. I wouldn't pick an STi over a Z unless I needed the functionality and/or AWD.

I feel much more connected to the road & car when I drive the Z. The interior quality is a full step up in the Z, which adds to the driving experience for me. That said, I think the STi 6-speed shifts nicer.

You can probably tell I care more about the driving experience more than the actual numbers. If the opposite were true, my choice of cars would be different as well.

m4a1mustang 03-26-2012 11:37 AM
I'm all about the driving experience too. Whatever makes you happy is what you should drive. :tup:

phelan 03-26-2012 11:43 AM
yup, and both the Z and the WRX brings stupidly huge grins to my face every time. :tup:

i do agree the subies are awful interior-wise. not as bad as a mitsu though!

Augustus 03-26-2012 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1621178)
I'm all about the driving experience too. Whatever makes you happy is what you should drive. :tup:
:iagree:

"Whatever makes you happy" is the absolute, final, & indisputably correct answer when it comes to, "what should I buy". Drive everything, buy what you can afford, fits your needs, and makes you smile. And when you get bored with that car, trade it in on something else. Life's too short for anything else. :tiphat:

That said... having owned a WRX in the past, and now a Z, I don't really understand the comparison. They're quite different. Arguing over which is "better" is sort of like arguing between a minivan and a pickup truck. Comparisons (arguments) tend to run in circles because it's tricky to directly compare them. If you want a quick, smallish, reasonably affordable sedan/hatchback with AWD, then a WRX is a fantastic choice. If you want a quick, reasonably affordable 2-seat RWD sports car, then a Z is a fantastic choice. Each has strengths and weaknesses.

If it's just a 0-60/quarter-mile bragging rights thing, then just go buy a Mustang GT with Miata doors and call it a day. You win, I lose, game over. :stirthepot:

kenchan 03-26-2012 11:45 AM
wat do you guys think about the new impreza hatch styling? the STI's going to look like that in the future, true?

to me the new impreza looked like a previous gen ford or something.

m4a1mustang 03-26-2012 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1621202)
wat do you guys think about the new impreza hatch styling? the STI's going to look like that in the future, true?

to me the new impreza looked like a previous gen ford or something.
I don't like it. It's got the shape of a Focus hatchback but looks far more bland. I am not too happy about where Subaru is going with their styling (save for the BRZ).

m4a1mustang 03-26-2012 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Augustus (Post 1621199)
:iagree:

"Whatever makes you happy" is the absolute, final, & indisputably correct answer when it comes to, "what should I buy". Drive everything, buy what you can afford, fits your needs, and makes you smile. And when you get bored with that car, trade it in on something else. Life's too short for anything else. :tiphat:
Indeed! :tup:

kenchan 03-26-2012 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1621205)
I don't like it. It's got the shape of a Focus hatchback but looks far more bland. I am not too happy about where Subaru is going with their styling (save for the BRZ).
yah, that was my feeling too. the legacy sedan (to me) looks rediculous...and i think that's the trend subaru's going with on all models. :ugh2:

TerribleONE 03-26-2012 11:50 AM
I think since the 06 it has just been going down hill. I loved the 05 style

phelan 03-26-2012 11:54 AM
my favorite subaru legacy:
http://www.subarucolors.info/wp-cont...T-spec.B-1.jpg

the new ones are fugly.

the new imprezas are...bland. supposedly the STi and WRX line will look similar, but i hope they do SOMETHING. the WRX line deserves better than one of the most cut/paste designs i've seen in years.

kenchan 03-26-2012 11:54 AM
i like the current(?) rounded STI/WRX hatch shape though. i was very close to buying a 09 when it was new. black with the 5 spoke wheels. got dealer to price at 31.5K even with lots of options i didnt want included....which was a super deal at the time.

TerribleONE 03-26-2012 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1621227)
my favorite subaru legacy:
http://www.subarucolors.info/wp-cont...T-spec.B-1.jpg

the new ones are fugly.

the new imprezas are...bland. supposedly the STi and WRX line will look similar, but i hope they do SOMETHING. the WRX line deserves better than one of the most cut/paste designs i've seen in years.
never been a fan of the legacy.. idk why.

kenchan 03-26-2012 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1621227)
my favorite subaru legacy:
http://www.subarucolors.info/wp-cont...T-spec.B-1.jpg

the new ones are fugly.

the new imprezas are...bland. supposedly the STi and WRX line will look similar, but i hope they do SOMETHING. the WRX line deserves better than one of the most cut/paste designs i've seen in years.
yah, i had a legacy wagon from that gen. it was a nice car but had too many warranty problems one after the other. and subaru dealers are notorious for being arseholes in my area.... :ugh2:

but about a year ago the local dealer was bought off and i hear their service is much better now. :)

phelan 03-26-2012 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1621230)
never been a fan of the legacy.. idk why.
the spec b though? it's the big boy version of the WRX lol. it was a lot of fun to test drive. the owner who was trying to sell it to me called his a "creampuff" because of how well he took care of it. kinda funny, he thought i was one of the few twenty-somethings he's talked to about the car that actually appreciates the legacy :rofl2:

Augustus 03-26-2012 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1621215)
I think since the 06 it has just been going down hill. I loved the 05 style
I had a World Rally Blue 2005 WRX. I have not seen a prettier WRX since. :icon23:

I'll be interested to see what 2013 brings for the WRX. The WRX & WRX STi are supposedly going to be all-new for the 2014 model year, and for the first time completely separate from the standard Impreza line. Subaru's styling has always been polarizing; love it or hate it. While I don't think the current WRX's look awful, I'm not a fan. I'm hoping that Subaru uses the BRZ's styling queues, as it's a genuinely good-looking car (IMHO).

TerribleONE 03-26-2012 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Augustus (Post 1621248)
I had a World Rally Blue 2005 WRX. I have not seen a prettier WRX since. :icon23:

I'll be interested to see what 2013 brings for the WRX. The WRX & WRX STi are supposedly going to be all-new for the 2014 model year, and for the first time completely separate from the standard Impreza line. Subaru's styling has always been polarizing. I'm hoping that Subaru uses the BRZ's styling queues, as it's a genuinely good-looking car (IMHO).
I agree! cant wait to see all the aftermarket stuff for it as well

phelan 03-26-2012 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Augustus (Post 1621248)
I had a World Rally Blue 2005 WRX. I have not seen a prettier WRX since. :icon23:

I'll be interested to see what 2013 brings for the WRX. The WRX & WRX STi are supposedly going to be all-new for the 2014 model year, and for the first time completely separate from the standard Impreza line. Subaru's styling has always been polarizing; love it or hate it. While I don't think the current WRX's look awful, I'm not a fan. I'm hoping that Subaru uses the BRZ's styling queues, as it's a genuinely good-looking car (IMHO).
that would be great. the imprezas right now are purely utility. there's no real character in the design at all.

with that said, they drive nice. sorta.

cossie1600 03-26-2012 12:39 PM
Maybe it's my area, but I sure see more WRX/Impreza than Mustangs or Camaros

slo 03-26-2012 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1621341)
Maybe it's my area, but I sure see more WRX/Impreza than Mustangs or Camaros
+1, here in Colorado, every intersection is full of Subaru's.

kenchan 03-26-2012 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1621277)
that would be great. the imprezas right now are purely utility. there's no real character in the design at all.

with that said, they drive nice. sorta.
you have kids, phelan? :confused: cause that wrx will come in handy. :tup:

Sibze 03-26-2012 01:12 PM
I love the STI. Sporty, awd, 4-door and fun. I'd like to get one

Sibze 03-26-2012 01:15 PM
:yum:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjYwWDk2MA...7()Q~~60_3.JPG

TerribleONE 03-26-2012 01:19 PM
sick!!!! ^

kenchan 03-26-2012 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1621552)
Is he trying to say the STI's are loud???
they do sound like a chopper (heli, not harley) with an exhaust...

TerribleONE 03-26-2012 02:35 PM
I think a subie with an exhaust is awesome sounding.. IMO they do get loud though!

kenchan 03-26-2012 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1621620)
I think a subie with an exhaust is awesome sounding.. IMO they do get loud though!
i had a blitz NR (was it?) on my 02 about a decade ago. thing was LOUD! :icon17:

Alchemy 03-26-2012 02:55 PM
As soon as my 2000 Ford Explorer dies Im most likely getting into a WRX. At least thats the plan now. The Z and my house are paid off so I really have no excuse. It would be so awesome to have a Z and a WRX in the driveway :yum: Plus with just an intake and a tune you get oodles of extra HP.

kenchan 03-26-2012 02:57 PM
alchemy- sounds like a :yum: plan. :tup:

Alchemy 03-26-2012 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1621653)
alchemy- sounds like a :yum: plan. :tup:
:tup:

m4a1mustang 03-26-2012 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1621649)
As soon as my 2000 Ford Explorer dies Im most likely getting into a WRX. At least thats the plan now. The Z and my house are paid off so I really have no excuse. It would be so awesome to have a Z and a WRX in the driveway :yum: Plus with just an intake and a tune you get oodles of extra HP.
:tup:

I used to always think about getting a WRX wagon for a practical car. But now I think when I get a practical "car" it's going to be a truck, since I want towing capability.

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1621660)
http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...7040-champ.jpg

...Take it easy, Champ. Why don't you stop talking for a while?

sit the next couple plays out, if you know what I mean.
:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

UNKNOWN_370 03-26-2012 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1621341)
Maybe it's my area, but I sure see more WRX/Impreza than Mustangs or Camaros
:iagree:
Where in NY you live? I know in the 5 boroughs its mostly jdm and german as DD's. Muscle cars in the city are usually bought used and restored on classic status. Most of the stangs and maro's you will see in the 5 boroughs will be v6 as well. Challengers are mad rare... STi's are popular in the NYC cuz you never use top end power. So the subie makes for a crap load of fun where most highways speed limit is 50 and most streets are 25 and 30mph.

kenchan 03-26-2012 03:09 PM
i think i see a lot of wrx's and impreza hatches in my area too but like mustangs they blend in the background with the honda accords and such. :icon17:


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