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azn370z 02-13-2012 11:15 AM

infiniti new mid engine concept revealed
 
Car and Driver Blog Infiniti EMERG-E Mid-Engine Sports-Car Concept Revealed [Geneva Auto Show]

So what do you guys think? I think it looks too busy and it won't age well. I think the nsx looks much better.

m4a1mustang 02-13-2012 11:16 AM

I think it looks really funky.

Thechidz 02-13-2012 11:32 AM

I like it, but I bet it's $$$$

kenchan 02-13-2012 12:00 PM

so this would be faster than 370Z but slower than GTR? or is this something that is suppose to be faster than the GTR? or just a hybrid sports car...(?)

Pharmacist 02-13-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1541433)
so this would be faster than 370Z but slower than GTR? or is this something that is suppose to be faster than the GTR? or just a hybrid sports car...(?)

actually, so far it's a drawing on a piece of paper. there's no guarantee that it will ever be produced. car companies are always coming up with these wild and crazy concepts for auto shows, many with no plans of ever making them. most probably, they will use the hybrid tech into the next generations of gtr or z along with their infiniti cars.

Cell 02-13-2012 12:59 PM

Kind of reminds me of an Austin Martin.

kenchan 02-13-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 1541481)
actually, so far it's a drawing on a piece of paper. there's no guarantee that it will ever be produced. car companies are always coming up with these wild and crazy concepts for auto shows, many with no plans of ever making them. most probably, they will use the hybrid tech into the next generations of gtr or z along with their infiniti cars.

i know that. my point was "wat's the goal/direction/purpose for the car."

bigsix 02-13-2012 01:09 PM

Some details remind me of a few cars: 458 italia, R8, SLS. . .

Pharmacist 02-13-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1541584)
i know that. my point was "wat's the goal/direction/purpose for the car."

to turn attention away from the fact that the "new" 370z is exactly the same as the old 370z :roflpuke2::bowrofl:

Red__Zed 02-13-2012 01:14 PM

Kinda like it as a start....obviously still early stage

alcheng 02-13-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1541433)
so this would be faster than 370Z but slower than GTR? or is this something that is suppose to be faster than the GTR? or just a hybrid sports car...(?)

Remember this??

2012 Nissan Leaf Destroys 2011 370Z - YouTube

They need to make something to beat the leaf, that's it.... :icon18:

kenchan 02-13-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 1541602)
to turn attention away from the fact that the "new" 370z is exactly the same as the old 370z :roflpuke2::bowrofl:

:werd:

kenchan 02-13-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 1541704)
Remember this??

2012 Nissan Leaf Destroys 2011 370Z - YouTube

They need to make something to beat the leaf, that's it.... :icon18:

that was conner's dad with VDC on... :icon17:

theDreamer 02-13-2012 05:12 PM

I could see this as Infiniti's answer to the NSX, not top power or number 1 on the track but well balanced, some luxury options, latest tech, etc.
The concept looks a bit rough, mainly because they took some good styles from other cars and tried to blend it with current Infiniti style which does not work.

b1adesofcha0s 02-13-2012 06:30 PM

I love the styling, can't wait to see the actual car itself and not just drawings.

Brazilbro 02-13-2012 07:59 PM

That would really give them something for everyone. Japan is missing a good mid-engine car.

MC 02-26-2012 01:06 AM

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MC 02-26-2012 01:12 AM

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MC 02-26-2012 01:12 AM

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shadoquad 02-26-2012 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 1542279)
That would really give them something for everyone. Japan is missing a good mid-engine car.

The 2015 NSX has been getting advertising love lately. So, not missing for long :D

azn370z 02-26-2012 02:18 AM

The real pics makes the car look much better but I don't like the side profile, how it tapers in the middle of the car. I prefer the nsx and r8 visual simplicity.

bigsix 02-26-2012 02:34 AM

looks like Infiniti's design language taken to the extreme

b1adesofcha0s 02-26-2012 10:17 AM

Love it :tup:

Rui Z 02-26-2012 01:30 PM

Im ready for electric sports cars......gorgeous

ImportConvert 02-26-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1541344)
I think it looks really funky.

I think someone got wet over the BMW Z4 and the Lotus Evora and thinks they can put the two together and call it their own idea.

kenchan 02-27-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1567249)
I think someone got wet over the BMW Z4 and the Lotus Evora and thinks they can put the two together and call it their own idea.

much better than hyundai putting mazda3's ugly grin together with ford styling. :icon17:

MaDMaXX 02-27-2012 01:33 PM

Er, what's an austin martin? :P

Also, the 3d renders look pretty good, although it's fairly ostentatious.

Spikuh 02-27-2012 02:32 PM

If they made that car as is and didn't put in an engine...I would still buy it. :driving:

azn370z 03-05-2012 06:02 PM

Just the Facts: Infiniti's Emerg-E concept is a midengine, range-extender sports car that could potentially become a new flagship model for the brand. The concept's range-extending hybrid driveline has been co-developed with Lotus, and shares similar hardware with the Evora 414E concept from 2010. The Emerg-E receives 402 horsepower from a pair of electric motors that drive the rear wheels via a single-speed, open-differential transmission.

GENEVA — Infiniti has unveiled a midengine, range-extender sports car concept called Emerg-E at the 2012 Geneva Auto Show. Said to be one of four concepts that could potentially become a new flagship model for the brand, the Emerg-E is the first midengine Infiniti.

Also novel is that much of its creation has taken place in the United Kingdom, where its range-extending, hybrid driveline has been co-developed with Lotus, which used similar hardware in the Evora 414E concept that debuted in 2010. Part of the reason for developing this Infiniti in Britain is that the project has attracted U.K. government funding by encouraging the development of new, locally developed green technologies such as its electric motors and carbon-fiber bodywork.

However, the Emerg-E's exterior design was created in the U.S. by Randy Rodriguez, out of Infiniti's California design studios. His theme triumphed over designs from the company's Japanese and European design centers, although it was the London studio that completed the detail development.

The inner core of the Emerg-E is based on a slightly stretched version of the aluminum chassis of the Lotus Evora, and its potent drivetrain is much the same as the Evora 414E concept's, too. Potent in this case means 402 horsepower from a pair of electric motors that drive the rear wheels via a single-speed open-differential transmission developed by Xtrac. Peak torque is an equally dramatic 738 pound-feet, allowing the Emerg-E to streak to 60 mph in just 4 seconds, says Infiniti. The rather less impressive — given the power output — top speed of 130 mph is limited by the need to prolong battery life, and to give the 47-hp 1.2-liter three-cylinder gasoline range-extender engine a chance of replenishing the lithium-ion battery pack.

This engine is purposely designed as a generator — Lotus is planning to market dedicated range-extender power units to hybrid manufacturers — and is identical to the 414E's, though curiously, the Lotus' electric motors develop slightly more power at 408 hp. Both cars are propelled at all times by these electric motors (unlike the Volt), which have been developed by U.K.-based Evo. The onboard generator provides the Emerg-E with a 300-mile range, 30 of these in zero-emissions EV mode. When the gasoline engine is running, it produces a low 55g/km of CO2 emissions on the European NEDC test cycle.

The decision to collaborate with Lotus on range-extender technology appears less surprising within Infiniti than it does from outside, sister brand Nissan having placed unpublicized projects with the engineering division of the sports-car maker for more than a decade. Infiniti planned a range-extender concept as a logical next-step exploration of the hybrid technologies in which it is already a front runner with models like the M35h sedan, and began developing a front-engine range-extender sports car of its own. But the chance to win partial funding for this project and more importantly, work with an array of hi-tech engineering specialists that it would not normally come into contact with, persuaded Infiniti that there were gains to be made by working with Lotus and developing much of the car in Europe, despite the technical similarities between the Emerg-E and the earlier 414E.

In terms of design the two cars are completely different, the Emerg-E providing Infiniti with the opportunity to stretch its design language around a midengine layout for the first time. Apart from the corporate grille, which looks as if it has been torn from an Infiniti sedan, the Emerg-E makes for a shapely and dramatic presence, and a more elegant one than the Lotus thanks in part to a 2-inch-longer wheelbase. Emerg-E's interior architecture is necessarily slightly similar to the Evora's too, but it, too, looks more swoopily elegant.

Infiniti plans to increase its midengine experience by building a pair of working Emerg-E prototypes during 2012. The aim is to prove out the hardware used in the Emerg-E, and explore the question of whether a midengine range-extender hybrid will become the pinnacle of a model line that lately has been best known for bold crossovers such as the FX and EX. Other contenders for the Infiniti top slot include a luxury sedan, another crossover and an as-yet-undisclosed vehicle format.

Inside Line says: The Emerg-E makes a striking departure for Infiniti with its overtly sporty midengine concept, and the exploration of fresh engineering avenues is intriguing, too. Whether it makes a fitting flagship for a brand best known for SUVs and sedans is another issue, however.

theDreamer 03-05-2012 06:23 PM

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However, the Emerg-E's exterior design was created in the U.S. by Randy Rodriguez, out of Infiniti's California design studios.
What what! He is back again doing more good designs.

bigaudiofanat 03-05-2012 06:24 PM

I'll take 3 personalized license plates PLEASE!!!

didymus 03-05-2012 06:31 PM

Looks awesome (aside from the wheels)

Rui Z 03-06-2012 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1583090)
What what! He is back again doing more good designs.

He's putting together quite a portfolio. I'm a fan of his designs. :tup:

bigaudiofanat 03-06-2012 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by didymus (Post 1583106)
Looks awesome (aside from the wheels)

Your right needs some Rays :p

MC 03-06-2012 07:03 PM

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MC 03-06-2012 07:09 PM

Infiniti Emerg-E: SPECIFICATIONS

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Powertrain
Motor type (synchronous) Twin rotor motors, one per rear wheel
EVO Electric Synchronous DC Brushless drive
Motor peak power, revs 150kW per motor (300kW total for vehicle) available for
30s or less. Flat distribution of power circa 3000 RPM
upwards
Motor peak torque, revs 737.6 lb-ft
ICE cylinders, capacity Lotus 3-cylinders, 1.2-liter
ICE peak power, revs 35kW at 3500 rpm
ICE peak torque, revs 78.9 lb-ft at 2500 rpm
Transmission Xtrac Single-speed (4.588:1 reduction box)
Battery type Lithium-ion phosphate
Battery capacity 300 kW
Peak power 1000 amps
Energy 14.8kW/h (at 25 deg)
Recharge time (from 13 amps) 10 hours, 6 hours at 16amps
Fuel tank capacity (gal.) 8.1
Chassis and Body
Construction Bonded, extruded aluminum chassis, carbon fiber
bodywork
Length 175.7 inches
Width 76.9 inches
Height 48.0 inches
Wheelbase 103.3 inches
Weight 3,523 pounds
Drag coefficient 0.34 Cd
Suspension, front Forged aluminum double-wishbone suspension, front stabilizer
bar, Bilstein dampers, Eibach springs
Suspension, rear Forged aluminum double-wishbone suspension, Bilstein dampers,
Eibach springs
Brakes, front Ventilated disc, 13.8-inch diameter
Brakes, rear Ventilated disc, 13.1-inch diameter
Steering Rack-and-pinion

Assistance Electro Hydraulic PAS
Wheels 8J x 19-inch front, 9.5J x 20-inch rear
Tires 235/35R19 front, 275/30R20 rear


Performance
0-60 mph 4.0 seconds
0-130 mph 30.0 seconds
Max speed 130 mph
Range, EV mode 30 miles
Full range 300 miles
CO2 emissions, EV mode Zero
CO2 emissions, r-e mode 55g/km (NEDC cycle)


b1adesofcha0s 03-06-2012 07:14 PM

Nice :tup:

Brazilbro 03-07-2012 01:26 AM

0-130 in 30 SEC... what a let down... considering my Z did 0-130 in 12 secs
:ninja3: also it won't quilify for the 7500 tax credit because of battery power rated under 16kw

djpathfinder 03-07-2012 01:58 AM

Nice! It has potential. They'll push it to market, I bet.

MaDMaXX 03-07-2012 08:50 PM

I've noticed from driving the Leaf, that it has great torque down low, but once you get up in speed, they fall of greatly.


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