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It is still cheaper by a marginal amount that I would still buy a 5.0 over this.

It should be cheaper in the states than Japan because no one will buy this ...and the gt premium model :gtfo2: with that price.

what toyota(scion)/subaru should have done is make this <$20,000 for the base model and $25,000 for the best model (non turbo) $28,000 for best & turbo. Then these things would fly of the lots

I agree. When all is said and done I still have a feeling this car will be a total fail. Don't get me wrong...I think it looks decent and I'll probably test drive one but you have to give people some trim level options. I don't think the OSFA approach Scion is taking will go over very well. That may be part of the reason the brand is struggling to begin with. I think putting it under Scion instead of Toyota is a HUGE mistake. They claim the point is to prop up the struggling Scion brand. They would have been better off giving the Scion brand the axe all together. With all the hype surrounding this car for the last couple of years, they are setting themselves up for a huge disappointment.

they poster said he didnt like the FRS wheels and would wait on the subaru version...i said the BRZ variant has the same wheels

then speaking of wheels i added a little fun conversational fact that these cars run the same Michelin tire as the prius.. something you wouldnt think of considering its a sportscar

That is def helping the car acheive it's advertised mpg ratings then since they are "low rolling resistance" tires. Probably makes it easier to drift tho since it won't grip the road very well. :rolleyes:

Oh sounded like you were saying they were the SAME tires lol my bad

no thats what i am saying it supposed to be the same.. not that it matters i guess it just sounds odd


215/45 R17 Michelin Green X but then from insideline it says 215/45-R17 Michelin Primacy.. i dont know much about the prius but mulitple mag tests referred to the 86 using "prius tires"

5. It Uses Prius Tires
Yes, we didn't believe it either, but the FR-S uses the same rubber that's optional on the Prius. In our first drive of the Toyota 86 we reported that the tires were the same size as those from the Prius option package, but we didn't think it possible that the much-hyped Toyota sports car would use the exact rubber as found on the efficiency-focused Prius.

Well, it does.

Tada-san insists that the FR-S's rubber doesn't share just a name with the tires on the FR-S. Rather, it's actually the exact same tire utilizing the same construction and compound as the optional Prius rubber. The reason, he says, is that the car's light weight and low center of gravity don't demand a high-grip tire.

Modest grip, stunning balance. It's a formula that works better than expected. The FR-S's fun quotient exceeds the sum of its parts.


yeah from autocar


Drifting is a huge part of the appeal of the FT-86, just as it continues to be for the AE86. Our car was fitted with 215/45 R17 Michelin Green X tyres all round – aka Toyota Prius tyres. This made it laughably sideways in second gear, the back end stepping out with relatively mild – and sometimes almost no – provocation. For the average driver, this makes exploring the limits far easier than in anything else currently on sale.