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Isamu 11-15-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed (Post 1407544)
I like it all.. I'm scared for the z at the rate they are going with the gen coupe..

it will still be heavier... like Red said, dynamics...

Cmike2780 11-15-2011 02:04 PM

I still think the Z will outpace the Gen Coupe, even with the power bump . The Nismo afterall, also has 350 hp and not that much faster than a non-Nismo Z. Granted Hyudai is claiming 295 lb-ft of torque (pretty big jump by the way) could make things interesting. The weight advantage isn't that much compared to the Z since the Gen Coupe weighs roughly 3,400 lbs.

Lug 11-15-2011 02:15 PM

If you dump the numbers in an online calculator, the Z and the Genesis come up dead even on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Being lighter will help the Z a bit in the handling department, all other things being equal.

Cmike2780 11-15-2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 1408531)
If you dump the numbers in an online calculator, the Z and the Genesis come up dead even on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Being lighter will help the Z a bit in the handling department, all other things being equal.

0-60 and 1/4 mile times always had the Z faster, with a higher trap speed and far from dead even. Stock Z runs in the low-mid 13's with Gen Coupe in the high 13's-low 14's range. 0-60 was in the high 5's for the Gen Coupe. The closest match was the Mustang, before they came out with the 5.0. Online calculators don't take everything and you can't really go by that and I'd have to see and believe an extra 44 hp could cut a second off. We'll have to wait and see how it really runs.

TypeOne 11-15-2011 04:42 PM

I wonder if the rear quarter glasses will fall out of these like the old model did. LOL

All hating aside, it's ugly.

:-P

shadoquad 11-15-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne (Post 1408906)
All hating aside, it's ugly.

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl: This statement, isolated, is hilarious!!! <3

Lug 11-15-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1408845)
0-60 and 1/4 mile times always had the Z faster, with a higher trap speed and far from dead even. Stock Z runs in the low-mid 13's with Gen Coupe in the high 13's-low 14's range. 0-60 was in the high 5's for the Gen Coupe. The closest match was the Mustang, before they came out with the 5.0. Online calculators don't take everything and you can't really go by that and I'd have to see and believe an extra 44 hp could cut a second off. We'll have to wait and see how it really runs.

General rule of thumb is about .1 sec for every 10 hp in the weight range, so if the Gcoupe was .5 sec slower, this will bring it almost even, maybe just a tic slower.

370Ztune 11-15-2011 05:50 PM

It's an interesting look. Kinda sucks that the turbo version jumped so much in power; it's like a burn for the guys that bought the older car...

phelan 11-15-2011 05:55 PM

They should write to Hyundai North America and demand a retrofit. It's a sports car, it should have come with a turbo to begin with :stirthepot:

370Ztune 11-15-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1409038)
They should write to Hyundai North America and demand a retrofit. It's a sports car, it should have come with a turbo to begin with :stirthepot:

HAHA!

It did, they just got bs power to match that turbo - 210hp versus the ~270 now.

Cmike2780 11-15-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 1409017)
General rule of thumb is about .1 sec for every 10 hp in the weight range, so if the Gcoupe was .5 sec slower, this will bring it almost even, maybe just a tic slower.

By that logic the Nismo should hit 0-60 in the mid 4's, which it doesn't to my knowledge. I do agree it will be a close race though.

bigdog1250 11-15-2011 06:49 PM

I'm excited with all these power boosts from different companies as Nissan will undoubtably up the game for the next gen Z.

Has anyone else read the insane specs on the new GT500 stang... 200mph, 650hp, 600lbs!!! WTF, the real decider will be the price. Anything around $60k would make this rocket a ridiculous deal.

Lug 11-16-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1409050)
By that logic the Nismo should hit 0-60 in the mid 4's, which it doesn't to my knowledge. I do agree it will be a close race though.

Agreed. The logic falicy however is how the NISM0 added 5 to 6% more power and supposedly better tires yet gained no discernable speed increase at all, regardless of how any other car stacks up.

kenchan 11-16-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250 (Post 1409120)
I'm excited with all these power boosts from different companies as Nissan will undoubtably up the game for the next gen Z.

they will also up the price too, considerably...

maybe they will release a mid-$20K silvia/240sx again if FRS takes off.

GZ3 11-17-2011 09:46 AM

i think this car will be a direct competitor for the Z, maybe even edge it out...well see how well it responds to mods...due to the DI it should respond well. weight will be the biggest factor here. I dont see why a 350hp genesis cant edge out a 332hp Z if a 305 hp v6 stang has been doing it


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