First Details of 2013 GT-R emerge
 

This past week at the Nurburging Nissan held a European Press Event to debut the MY2012 ( 2013 US spec) GT-R


Just 1 year after the comprehensive updates of the DBA-R35 the GTR continues its evolution. Details from the event are still being gathered and we will keep you posted/ amend them as needed. but here is what is currently know:


- the 2013 GTR will feature once again a substantial gain in HP on par with the current increase from last years model. The final number will be announced at the cars launch but it was shown at the event to be atleast 40 so expect 570+ HP

- Visually the 2013 remains with no additional color options

- Suspension and Transmission logic has been tweaked

- Under body has been changed to improve aero and cooling

- Co2 emissions have once again been lowered

- Premium Black Edition and Egoist will be offered worldwide

- In addition to these models a "Track Edition" will be available as RHD only
this GTR is the one we reported on earlier this week with carbon parts inspired by Nissan Test Driver Toshio Suzuki GTR tuning brand "Nordring " also features Dunlop Race slicks aswell as Volk Racing wheels....


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Why do you think Nissan doesn't put as much attention towards the 370z? Nissan sells a lot more z than gtr. More people have heard of a z than gtr. Why does Nissan continue to spend more money trying to tweak the gtr?

wow.

(I wish/hope Nissan puts this kind of effort into the next gen Z, obviously they're not putting ANY effort into the current one.).

It is the top of the brand, also I imagine a lot of these changes are in line with the whole R35 plan.

GTR is their Halo car, and it's bragging rigths vs. Porcshe, Ferrari etc, (mainly Porcshe.

all that technology and engineering will trickle down to the Z hopefully. but expect the price of the Z to increase with it.

I know Nissan knows what they're doing but I can't help wonder why they don't spend the money, research, and time tweaking the z. Honestly how will they sell more altima and z by saying they added more HP to the gtr. Improving the z would sell more altima because not many people know what a gtr is. I guess they do all of this is to soothe nissans ego.

So by RHD that means it won't be sold in the U.S. I'm assuming? (track version)

oh well not like I could afford one anytime soon haha

oh and one more bit of info i forgot

nissan was at the ring all this week testing and had an official timed run scheduled for friday... as most of you know the 2012...did a 7:24 but it wasnt official it was more of a shakedown run... before they could attempt an all out timed run it rained it out

so the one friday was postponed until sometime in october... details are a bit muddled but what i take from it was...because the spec tire they were testing was not the exact OEM production version that would go on the car... the GTR director refused to post a time unless it was the exact car the customer could buy

yeah thats what it seems.... only JDM and EURO spec

this is a track car...no back seats.. racing buckets and slicks...

those wheels by the way seem to be a varient of the VOlk G12s

and besides speaking of afford those carbon parts are insanely expensive... currently they are already offered from nordring and the wing alone is $11K

nissan is debuting a Spec-R at the motor show... im assuming this is it but am not 100%

Damn, impressed they are making so many changes again

Because the Z doesn't sell enough to make it worthwhile for Nissan. They planned for sales of 30k units a year, it sells 10k. As a mid-range sports car it's just not a worthwhile investment, whereas you have the GT-R, a halo car competing against the likes of Porsche, Ferrari, Corvette, etc., that is going to keep Nissan's name in the news and elevate the brand as a whole.

Yes, it might not sell as many units as the Z, but it has a bigger impact from a marketing perspective.

Oh, and I would be surprised if the GT-R only received 570 hp. I'm guessing 600+ will be more like it.

there are 2 more model years left for the R35 after the 13.... by the last year i expect 600

for 2013... its confirmed to be between 570-580

still that will be good for a 10.7 ish 1/4 mile verging on 130 mph

Ah, gotcha. I'm just waiting for the day Nissan says "f*ck it, we're tired of trapping slower than everyone else in the 1/4, so the 201X GT-R will have 675hp!" :icon18:

WOW, it keeps on going. That's the part where the Porsche, R8 & Lexus LFA engineers throw the towel :icon17:
Because the GTR is the flagship and a clear winner in everyone's mind. Have you ever had one of those ricers Honda challenge a GTR. I get those all the time in the Z ;)

So is the track model going to post sub 7:15 on the ring?
Maybe once the new model comes out the 09's will finally fall into the low to mid 50's

i think the offiicial lap time is gonna before the "regular" GTR.... i would like to see a time for the track one but i dont know if it will be announced..

for the same reason that they ran the specV when it was released but didnt announce the time....

the GTR director in the past stated he only wants a time for the normal GTR not any special versions because thats the car the the majority of the customers but

but there is a lot of pressure now with the LFA special edition lap time not to mention the ACR...so they need to post something mind blowing to stay in the game

Still no true manual?:shakes head:

I mean I know the DSG posts better times which is essential to the marketing of the GTR, but I really wish they would put a real manual in this car for those of us who like to row the gears.

sometimes i long for typewriters and rotary phones for the same reasons

:tup: I just hope DSG-type transmissions come down in cost enough to be on Z-level cars sometime in the next several years. Something tells me before that happens though, the world will have moved on to all-electric sportscars in the mainstream anyways. The ideal setup seems to be 4 electric motors, one in each wheel, with a giant battery pack for the short term and a tiny fixed-rpm gasoline generator separately in the trunk that serves as a battery recharger for longer cruising. With that sort of setup you get AWD, instant torque at any speed/rpm, perfect traction control, awesome regenerative brakes, and no shifting necessary at all. They trounce traditional cars in theory, it's just matter of time for the engineering to be perfected and the component prices to come down.

Halo cars get the love. The 370Z is not a halo car.

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well played sir :bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl:

eager to see what happens with the R35 before it's done. it would surprise me if the next Z doesn't have a dual clutch automated manual transmission similar to the GTR's. they may still offer a tradition manual trans for those who prefer it and because of it's cheaper cost, but i don't see them putting a torque converter automatic in the Z anymore... at least i hope not (though the 370's 7spd is pretty good for a slushbox)

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I'd prefer to row the gears, too. That wouldn't prevent me from buying one. That'd be the sticker price. :roflpuke2:

Dissappointed in no option for a traditional 6-speed manual transmission. At least give consumers the option to choose.

i'm a huge fan of the traditional 3 pedal manual setup (my truck has the same 6 spd transmission your 370z has, just without SRM unfortunately). but, if you've driven a car equipped with a dual clutch automated manual, you would know it's the best of both worlds. you get the control, strength, and power delivery of the manual while getting the ease of operation of an auto. other than cost, i don't see any downsides. just because you aren't pushing a clutch pedal doesn't mean you aren't involved in driving the car

:tup: you tell em Pat!

Glad to hear that the Egoist is coming over to the US. I saw the one they had sitting at the Nissan HQ building in Tokyo last November. The car had a pearlescent (sp?) green hue to an egg shell white paint...then had a Pink WWII Bomber style interior. Definitly a different setup, but the coolness factor was that you could custom order your GT-R in about 1000 different color, paint and trim combos.

I've been hearing 600HP

the chart showed at the press event had it between 570 and 580 hp

official announcement will be nov 30th at tokyo motor show

Nov. 30th :excited:

Does this mean an '09 GTR will finally be affordable on the used market? :rofl2:

yeah i got to see all the leather samples a few months back

although its not really my thing...if i had to choose .....i like the dark gray and burgandy combo ok....but the browns both the chocolate and like orange ish buckskin just didnt so it for me....

and of course the pink and red combo.... which is called "sakura"

here is all the combos for those who want to see.. just scroll to the bottom of the post





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Also, they are reporting a 130lbs weight loss too, should be an interesting run at the ring.

yeah thats for the JDM model... not sure when the US stuff will be out.... but i mean besides pricing and maybe a few small things thats gonna be the majority of the info

i was told it would be onsale after nissans current fiscal year ended...so i think thats march.. so i imagine ordering will be dec-jan ish sort of like this past year

How's the black edition treating you?

yea thats for the track edition though.... the regular 2013 i dont think has any weight loss or any visual changes for that matter. ( except on small change to the black edition)

the ring attempt will be mid october.... i HOPE they post a time for the track edition in addition to the regular car....

with all the special editions posting crazy fast ring times now... i hope nissan caves under pressure and follows suit

I was just about to ask that. lol gmta