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bluenoser 08-16-2011 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1263795)
Why would anyone want an F1 engine is my question. It would perform like *** anywhere but the circle-track.

It might be ok as long you have a team of mechanics to constantly look after it and you don't mind always driving above 15k rpm :eekdance: .... and replacing it every 1000 miles.

I'm actually not a fan of how they sound this year. The blown diffuser mapping business makes them sound awful in person. Lotus-Renault (Petrov/Heidfeld not the other Lotus) and the Mercedes' sound broken when they're off throttle. I'm looking forward to the new turbo regs

ImportConvert 08-16-2011 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bluenoser (Post 1263837)
It might be ok as long you have a team of mechanics to constantly look after it and you don't mind always driving above 15k rpm :eekdance: .... and replacing it every 1000 miles.

I'm actually not a fan of how they sound this year. The blown diffuser mapping business makes them sound awful in person. Lotus-Renault (Petrov/Heidfeld not the other Lotus) and the Mercedes' sound broken when they're off throttle. I'm looking forward to the new turbo regs

I honestly never got into F1 or NASCAR or anything. Mainly, I enjoy watching videos of production cars hammering the 'ring or Leguna Seca and the like. You know, something I might be able to actually own one day, basically.

cossie1600 08-16-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by oleg (Post 1263788)
since a part of it is engine revving high, how can you make the engine rev higher, as in past 8500k for the Z. Im sure you would need new engine parts to be able to handle that. Also does the speed of the rev matter to the sound at all or no?

rod bearings crank cams. Got $20K

Buy a LF-A if you want the sound, or Ferraris.

Red__Zed 08-16-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1263795)
Why would anyone want an F1 engine is my question. It would perform like *** anywhere but the circle-track.

Powerband would feel like most bikes. Bfd.

shadoquad 08-16-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1263849)
I honestly never got into F1 or NASCAR or anything. Mainly, I enjoy watching videos of production cars hammering the 'ring or Leguna Seca and the like. You know, something I might be able to actually own one day, basically.

I like it. It's spectacle. Watching F1, MotoGP, NASCAR, GT or Le Mans... It's all good fun to watch hardcore tuned racing vehicles do their thing.

But I agree that it's also nice to watch genuinely stock sports cars going hard around race tracks or challenging public roads. One of the reasons I love Top Gear so much is that they have challenges in some beat up 80's car.

Mike@AMPerformance 08-16-2011 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by oleg (Post 1263788)
since a part of it is engine revving high, how can you make the engine rev higher, as in past 8500k for the Z. Im sure you would need new engine parts to be able to handle that. Also does the speed of the rev matter to the sound at all or no?

Both the stock rods and pistons will have a problem with 8500+. Also, the stock cams don't work up there, nor does the stock exhaust, so in order to both make the engine live and to make any power up top you are going to have to do some serious spending.

Mike

Nitrouz 08-17-2011 05:16 PM

youtube 360 cs with capristo exhaust.....closest to F1 imo...

zeddreaming 08-18-2011 08:44 PM

If you ever actually heard a F-1 engine you would not even compare it to a street car.

bluenoser 08-19-2011 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by zeddreaming (Post 1269261)
If you ever actually heard a F-1 engine you would not even compare it to a street car.

It's unbelievable how loud F1 cars are in person. And fast. The TV coverage really doesn't give a good sense of the noise and speed.

Indy and NASCAR are loud too I guess but not on the same level

Gunzero 08-19-2011 02:36 AM

its the small engine size + high rev
ever heard a sport bike before?
(the bike revs to 12k + the engine is small 1000cc or 1.0 liter.. our z has 3700cc or 3.7 liters)
sound frequency (pitch) depends on how fast the object vibrates.
faster the vibration, higher the pitch
hope this answers your question
notice: the higher he revs his engine the higher the exhaust pitch. F1 cars can reach 15k! wow xd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li74mOg1zsA

shadoquad 08-19-2011 12:06 PM

Great post, Gunzero!

cossie1600 08-19-2011 12:42 PM

Don't jizz in your pants

Renault F1 engine on dyno - YouTube

Cosworth V8 20000rpm engine dyno run - YouTube

TreeSemdyZee 08-19-2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 1269504)
its the small engine size + high rev
ever heard a sport bike before?
(the bike revs to 12k + the engine is small 1000cc or 1.0 liter.. our z has 3700cc or 3.7 liters)
sound frequency (pitch) depends on how fast the object vibrates.
faster the vibration, higher the pitch
hope this answers your question
notice: the higher he revs his engine the higher the exhaust pitch. F1 cars can reach 15k! wow xd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li74mOg1zsA

18k, but who's counting. When I first started watching five or six years ago, they went up to 20k. :excited:

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1270158)

NOW you tell me. :eek dance:

The Renault video is PURE sex! Unbelievable.

cossie1600 08-19-2011 06:41 PM

FIA limits them to 18K now, I believe 16K is purposed for 2013

M.Bonanni 08-19-2011 07:32 PM

Mazda 26B four rotor is the closest I have heard to F1 sounds in a production car...

Mad Mike drifting 'MADBUL' - 1996 MAZDA FD3 RX7 for team Redbull at D1NZ Finals - YouTube


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