Question about the F1 sound
 

Ive been trying to search for the answer but i haven't come up with the exact answer yet. What makes the cars sound high pitched like f1 cars, some say its a high revving engine yet ive seen similar displacement engines with the same red line and same amount of cylinders sound completely opposite. Can someone please clarify this one for me and also tell me what engines can produce that sound.

Redline for F1 cars is at 18,000 rpm and if you multiply that by 8 cylinders going out through straight pipes... You get amazing sound!

Where are you finding engines with similar displacement (2.4liter) with similar revs (18,000)?

I didn't mean engines similar to f1 cars but For example an f430 engine red lines at 8500k it's a 4.3L and a v8, sounds like an f1 when flies by. A BMW m3 engine is a v8 that red lines at 8300k I believe with 4.0L but sounds nothing like an f1.

Just run open exhaust ports.

In production vehicles the exhaust setup creates a lot of the sound. F1 cars all sound the way they do because of the super high revs and open exhaust. They're all the same setup so they sound the same.

It's the high rev's, cylinders, engine components, head design, transmission, exhaust setup etc that give it that sound. F-1 cars are on a whole other planet when it comes to drivetrain component. I personally think the LF-A is the closest production car to sound like an F-1 car.

Doesn't sound like an F1 car to me.

The F430 sounds like an F1 car at 8500 rpm with an open exhaust to me :roflpuke2:

As stated, EVERYTHING about an engine determines how it sounds, including the exhaust on production cars. This is why a 351 sounds like a mean drum-roll and an LS1 (346ci) sounds like a machine-gun in a trashcan.

Firing order, crankpin arrangement (plane), valve arrangement, just to name a few not mentioned.

Mike

So basically you can't make your engine sound like that unless it comes from factory like that?

So whose going to be the first to do an F1 engine swap? :roflpuke2:

That would be so cool, but I don't want to have to clean my shorts every time I go for a drive. :eek:

since a part of it is engine revving high, how can you make the engine rev higher, as in past 8500k for the Z. Im sure you would need new engine parts to be able to handle that. Also does the speed of the rev matter to the sound at all or no?

Why would anyone want an F1 engine is my question. It would perform like *** anywhere but the circle-track.

It might be ok as long you have a team of mechanics to constantly look after it and you don't mind always driving above 15k rpm :eekdance: .... and replacing it every 1000 miles.

I'm actually not a fan of how they sound this year. The blown diffuser mapping business makes them sound awful in person. Lotus-Renault (Petrov/Heidfeld not the other Lotus) and the Mercedes' sound broken when they're off throttle. I'm looking forward to the new turbo regs

I honestly never got into F1 or NASCAR or anything. Mainly, I enjoy watching videos of production cars hammering the 'ring or Leguna Seca and the like. You know, something I might be able to actually own one day, basically.

rod bearings crank cams. Got $20K

Buy a LF-A if you want the sound, or Ferraris.

Powerband would feel like most bikes. Bfd.

I like it. It's spectacle. Watching F1, MotoGP, NASCAR, GT or Le Mans... It's all good fun to watch hardcore tuned racing vehicles do their thing.

But I agree that it's also nice to watch genuinely stock sports cars going hard around race tracks or challenging public roads. One of the reasons I love Top Gear so much is that they have challenges in some beat up 80's car.

Both the stock rods and pistons will have a problem with 8500+. Also, the stock cams don't work up there, nor does the stock exhaust, so in order to both make the engine live and to make any power up top you are going to have to do some serious spending.

Mike

youtube 360 cs with capristo exhaust.....closest to F1 imo...

If you ever actually heard a F-1 engine you would not even compare it to a street car.

It's unbelievable how loud F1 cars are in person. And fast. The TV coverage really doesn't give a good sense of the noise and speed.

Indy and NASCAR are loud too I guess but not on the same level

its the small engine size + high rev
ever heard a sport bike before?
(the bike revs to 12k + the engine is small 1000cc or 1.0 liter.. our z has 3700cc or 3.7 liters)
sound frequency (pitch) depends on how fast the object vibrates.
faster the vibration, higher the pitch
hope this answers your question
notice: the higher he revs his engine the higher the exhaust pitch. F1 cars can reach 15k! wow xd

Great post, Gunzero!

Don't jizz in your pants

Renault F1 engine on dyno - YouTube

Cosworth V8 20000rpm engine dyno run - YouTube

18k, but who's counting. When I first started watching five or six years ago, they went up to 20k. :excited:

NOW you tell me. :eek dance:

The Renault video is PURE sex! Unbelievable.

FIA limits them to 18K now, I believe 16K is purposed for 2013

Mazda 26B four rotor is the closest I have heard to F1 sounds in a production car...

Mad Mike drifting 'MADBUL' - 1996 MAZDA FD3 RX7 for team Redbull at D1NZ Finals - YouTube

Those things sound wicked in the Grand-Am Series. I love it when they are down shifting and belch fire out of the pipes.

The GrandAm cars actually use a different engine. They use a 3 rotor.

600cc motorycle engines rev to 15 or 16k, so that would give you a good start. Put two of those together in a V-shape and you'd have a 1.2L V8 that revved to 16k and made about 250hp. I actually saw a video or article about someone who did this with two 1000cc engines, but can't remember where.

a 3 rotor 20B NA PP with ITB's will do .

my end plan for my FD by 2014. project is starting as we speak.

Eshaft.pp housings from racing beat are in garage already ;) yikes!!

Too late

all they do is bounce of the limiter, take a motor for some real usage where you actually put it on the ground

mazda 787B - YouTube